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positive beginnings

  • 22-03-2014 7:28am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭


    i thought id start a thread for people to share their experiences on all things positive to transpire from an alcohol free life!

    Im 31days sober and already have experienced a wealth of positive changes in my life in that short time. I highly recommend exercise! i have been out running nearly everyday and it really feels great,my mental mindset has certainly shifted or at least shifting quickly from a very dogmatic negative one to a can-do,up-beat positive one!

    I also passed my driving test which I'm convince was because of a clear head and a more positive mindset:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Its good to see familiar names pop up again and again on here.. it says to me, that it IS possible to ditch the bottle for good :) if you guys can do it!so can i! stay the course folks everyone deserves a second chance! one day at a time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    As a wise person once said "Do or Do not, There is no try."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Ran the cliff walk greystones out to bray this morning. beautiful morning and feeling great afterwards! Time to dig out the paintbrushes and rekindle an old passion.. start what i gave up ten years ago when the bottle took priority!
    good day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    souls wrote: »
    Ran the cliff walk greystones out to bray this morning. beautiful morning and feeling great afterwards! Time to dig out the paintbrushes and rekindle an old passion.. start what i gave up ten years ago when the bottle took priority!
    good day
    Fair play! amazing how one's perspective on things change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    arms,neck legs weary.. the last 2 days I've felt very run down and am very quick tempered and irritable too, i read about the PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome) which might be in play here? does this happen to anybody else?i caught myself in work for a split second today saying "i can drink now"! what the **** was that about?and by god i could of if i wanted too! that was scary, but Ive become more aware of my thoughts as of late and was able to address the impulse rationally and calmly.. "no. i don't want to drink" need i continue, i know where it ends.. that was the initial process i believe to relapse so I'm going to be much more in tune with my sobriety.

    now il go to sleep grateful that i got through a test today. that i didn't lie down and give up. grateful that today i beat drink. and keep this feeling inside me for tomorrow when il need it to do it again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 marco2014


    SOULS, Well done. I admire you. I have attempted to control m'y alcohol intake for thé past 22 years.I have being drinking heavily on and off since i was 14, i am now willing To admit that i have à problem. Its affecting my life in so many ways and i am very motivated to change for thé sake of my mental and physical health. More importantly my drinking, most of which i do/did at home was in the evening time 5 o clock to 12 o clock/ fall into bed with no recollection.My kids have watched this. I have made a plan to help me, exercice, nutrition, counselling, doctor are part of it. My wife is fully supportive, which i think is vital. I researched and read alot last week about quitting. Two things were very interesting To me. Lglutamine, as a method of reducing cravings and antabuse, as a method of stopping thé internal mental conflict that, i know, from past attempts to quit Will inevitably come. In five or six weeks this horror that i have survived to now will not seem so bad, sure doesnt everyone do it, sure look at my father, drank all his life, happy out etc. Etc.
    Please help, i am open to every word of advice, every opinion, past experience.
    Sober for 2 days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭enoughalready


    Allen Carr's "Easyway to Control Alcohol" - helped me immensely. It's a book available online through bookdepositry who do free postage

    http://www.bookdepository.com/Allen-Carrs-Easyway-Control-Alcohol-Allen-Carr/9781848374652

    For 6 odd euro it's a steal and really made me see alcohol in a whole different light. Can't recommend it more highly. Good luck on your journey mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Hi Marco!thanks for the kind words!"admire" isn't a word I've heard when referring to me since… well.. ever!haha so thanks for that you made my day! i can appreciate that you're going through quite a difficult period right now.. if you scan through this forum along with other sites on dealing with alcohol you will come across great bits of info and tips that might be of help to you!

    Im really only in the very early stages myself so for me its all about taking one day at a time,i remember the first week i was very ill physically, my mind was racing and my mood was lousy! so for me initially it was hell on earth (sorry but just been honest) i moved back home to my family,told them everything about the grip drink had on me and i was worried about my health both mentally and physically, and went to 2 AA meetings that week..

    since then i can say things have improved greatly!i keep myself active and run everyday!its great i love it!especially when the sun is shinning like it is today!Cant say i know anything about the medication you mentioned. i am however at the stage where i will be organizing a visit to my gp so i will be discussing it then. 'enough already' mentioned allen carrs book,which i ve heard other people mention so i might check that out.!

    anyway right now look after yourself and try get plenty of rest!
    best of luck with everything and keep us up to date on here!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Tomorrow i turn 30.. and i have to say I'm really looking forward to a new chapter in my life leaving behind a pretty sorrowful and despairing time i spent throughout my 20's.. its quite clear to me now what was really the root of all my woes..and the destruction that alcohol has played in my life but on reflection i can take that time as a real lesson in life..it was a path i had to walk.. to get through..so i could come through the other side.. i have learned greatly from that..

    Im now entering uncharted territory regarding my sobriety, and as i take one day at a time. i am really enjoying this process of transformation. discovering more about myself with every sober day is a real satisfying and fulfilling feeling. don't get me wrong its not like everyday is a walk in the park!there are tough days!but hey thats life! having a new found strength to face these days without reaching for a drink is the most rewarding thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭enoughalready


    Happy Birthday Souls (",) ~ hope you have a fabulous year ahead - fair play on your sobriety and all the hard work you have been putting into yourself recently! Wishing you all the very best life has to offer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 madra_alainn


    Hi Souls,

    I joined Boards about a week ago and have been hovering around ever since trying to find a thread that is worthy of my first ever Boards comment ;-) and then I saw this one!! First of all WELL DONE on making the decision to quit the booze, it ain't easy but it sure is worth it. My partner gave it up five years ago after many years of pain, destruction and hurt and he has never looked back.

    He too began by taking it one day at a time and when we talk about it now we can hardly believe it has been five years already. I used to ask him (stupidly) to promise me he would never drink again and he would say to me that he couldn't make that promise, all he could promise me was that he would not use the drink that day. And now the days have turned into years.

    Those few years before he gave it up were heartbreaking for all of us, but stand to remind him of why he can never go back and why working on his sobriety is so important.

    Anyways, I'm super proud of him and I'm sure your nearest and dearest are proud of you too Souls, and I wish you a very very happy 30th birthday!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Thank you madra_alainn, lovely to hear your kind words and appreciate the support :)
    Also chuffed to claim your debut post ;)

    just back from glendalough did a 12k loop absolutely cracking day!..

    Have a great weekend all! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 madra_alainn


    You had an absolute cracker of a day for your birthday alright, and Glendalough rocks!

    Quiet symbolic that it was Good Friday today also :-) haha

    Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    I've just read that 'relaxation' is pretty key to recovery!!
    i wish someone sent me the memo before i did another 10 k today!! haha

    time for herbal tea, and some sitar sounds.

    peace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    Hi all, I am glad I found this forum. I am in early recovery also. I entered a treatment centre this year to be treated for my alcoholism and it was the best thing I have ever done. I am thrilled to be off it I suffered a relapse that lasted 2 days since and it was just a reminder of the absolute hell that I am now glad to leave behind me. I walk twice a day and attend AA regularly. I am not working at the moment and I love going to the meetings and catching up with new friends and the support they give me. I have had to leave a lot of my mates in the past and that can be really hard as I have known some of them for a long time. There are lonely days but once I keep on track things can only improve. Souls relaxation is key in recovery. I have been unsuccessfully trying to meditate but am still working on it! There are days that are or were especially early on that were hell but for me is it support from people going through the same thing that is key! It's not easy but I am determined to kick this thing for good and am looking forward to a summer free from the booze!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Good for you bluebluesky! Stay the course :) don't let your mind race ahead of itself.. thats one area i focus on everyday.. keep in the now! the 'i won't drink today' mentality goes a long way!keep at the meditation.. I'm not sure if theres a right or wrong way to be honest!haha at least i hope not! i listen to 30 min bites on youtube with my earphones in and concentrate on my breathing. either way i feel better afterwards :)

    i here ya on the lonely days..i have no friends left really.. years of self confinement and slavery to the bottle will do that! so in a way dropping the lifestyle was rather easy cause it was just me in the house on my own or me at the bar on my own.. its quite clear now to see booze took away much more than it could ever give, a mantra il never forget.

    Anyway keep posting!there's loads of friendly advice and support here! :D
    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    souls wrote: »
    Good for you bluebluesky! Stay the course :) don't let your mind race ahead of itself.. thats one area i focus on everyday.. keep in the now! the 'i won't drink today' mentality goes a long way!keep at the meditation.. I'm not sure if theres a right or wrong way to be honest!haha at least i hope not! i listen to 30 min bites on youtube with my earphones in and concentrate on my breathing. either way i feel better afterwards :)

    i here ya on the lonely days..i have no friends left really.. years of self confinement and slavery to the bottle will do that! so in a way dropping the lifestyle was rather easy cause it was just me in the house on my own or me at the bar on my own.. its quite clear now to see booze took away much more than it could ever give, a mantra il never forget.

    Anyway keep posting!there's loads of friendly advice and support here! :D
    S

    Hi Souls,

    Thanks a million, yeah the keep it in the day is the only way for me at the moment. Ah the racing mind :), try9ing to slow it down is a bit of a killer! I am also listening to some Youtube stuff and it really does help when I am trying to unwind after the day. The friends thing is really hard, as I was saying I seem to spend a lot of time on my own. I live by the sea and love to walk the beach and nature is nurture and all that but maybe making new friends will come in time. In regards to the boozing your dead right, in the end it gave me absolutely nothing but absolute fear and loneliness. Will keep posting for sure and thanks so much for your response. Blue :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    keeping an eye on the relapse thread today.. and drawing inner strength. learning coping skills to deal with life issues without the crutch of drink is now apon me.. 63 days in and i knew i wasn't gonna avoid it forever,just cause I'm getting better just a little bit day by day doesn't mean the world has stopped spinning. today was tough,but a day i took the full brunt of without drinking myself unconscious. physically i never been as in as good as shape as now,but mentally and emotionally I've a long way to go..maybe today was the start of that healing process,grateful for that. grateful to finish day 63.. success :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    Hi Souls,

    I just read your post and wanted to check in. Firstly I hope your ok you sound a little down tonight? 63 days is amazing!!! You are doing so well. Can I ask Yu of you attend any AA group of life ring? IMO it's always nice to keep in touch with some kind of support group even if Yu are not fully into it. On tough days a cup of tea and some human connection is always welcoming. In saying that you are doing great and well done on day 63! I for one and pleased as hell for you!

    Blue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Thanks Blue. Im just finding my feet when it comes to dealing with life issues. honestly I've drank my entire adult life so this is whack of reality is coming in fast and furious.. but I'm feeling rejuvenated today,a good nights sleep helped so much :)

    I went to AA the first week i stopped, but haven't been back since.. Not for any reason in particular. just for me, not the right fit..its kinda hard to explain..maybe il go when i reach a different stage in my sobriety,but today its not for me so thats as far as i look ahead.

    Hope your doing alright!?stay the course..i for one wouldn't change it for the world..The good days far outweigh the bad :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    Hey! I know what you mean I am the exact same, I am 34 years old and have drank heavily for about 15 if not more, kinda frightening and sobriety is like a bit of a kick in the face if I am honest! I can deal with it :), I had 2 job interviews today, I hardly slept at all last night with the worry bur the first one went well and they cam back to me this evening to say I wasn't suited. TBH the location and the role did nothing for me. I will have to wait till next week for word on the other one! I would love to get it! What's for me won't pass me and all that. So pretty stressful day but yet again am glad to be sitting here sober talking about it and not out of my mind drunk somewhere!

    Sorry I didn't mean to be an AA pusher lol! I go to a small meeting where I am from and I have kinda grown to love all the different characters in my small meeting.

    I agree tough days are few and far between in comparison to the hell of the endless mess of my alcoholic life. Onwards and upwards. My main worry right now is what to watch, I need to get my teeth into a good TV series or movie and am stuck! Suggesti9ns welcome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Thanks for the link btw 'enoughalready'. made that purchase (allen cards book)this morning!ive heard good reports so il give it a read!how are you getting on?well done on dumping the booze that was in the house,kinda like getting rid of the safety net!my family got rid of all the booze in the house when i came home out of solidarity! stay the course!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Hey! I know what you mean I am the exact same, I am 34 years old and have drank heavily for about 15 if not more, kinda frightening and sobriety is like a bit of a kick in the face if I am honest! I can deal with it :), I had 2 job interviews today, I hardly slept at all last night with the worry bur the first one went well and they cam back to me this evening to say I wasn't suited. TBH the location and the role did nothing for me. I will have to wait till next week for word on the other one! I would love to get it! What's for me won't pass me and all that. So pretty stressful day but yet again am glad to be sitting here sober talking about it and not out of my mind drunk somewhere!

    Sorry I didn't mean to be an AA pusher lol! I go to a small meeting where I am from and I have kinda grown to love all the different characters in my small meeting.

    I agree tough days are few and far between in comparison to the hell of the endless mess of my alcoholic life. Onwards and upwards. My main worry right now is what to watch, I need to get my teeth into a good TV series or movie and am stuck! Suggesti9ns welcome

    best of luck with the job blue!and if you don't get it don't worry!keep trying. I believe that would only be a positive thing for your recovery! The stress thing is interesting! :O i most certainly haven't mastered dealing with that little chestnut! i have a lot of pent up anger at times,so i might invest in punching bag!haha I'm going to look into different herbal teas which i hear can help.but sometimes i just stop what I'm doing, close my eyes and take a few deep breaths and slow exhales.. works a treat even if i look like a mental patient i couldn't give a monkeys' what other people think!

    i don't watch much tv,but i hear ppl at work avidly suggesting various tv series on netflix! haha there's loads! hope you are well!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭enoughalready


    So glad you bought the Allen Carr book Souls, hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Planning to re-read it soon. I've a few books on the go at present.

    All is going great so far, thankfully, managed another AA meeting this evening and was asked to read the promise at the end which I did and I also shared for the first time which was so scary but so rewarding. Also the first time I said out loud that I was an alcoholic to other people. Meetings are powerful - very powerful, can't recommend them more highly. I've only been to 3 but have gained so much from them and phone numbers for support which is great.

    I'm going to bed happy and looking forward to my 12hr shift tomorrow in work, knowing I'll be able to handle what comes my way.

    "FEEL THE FEAR AND DO IT ANYWAY!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    just a little note to self:

    There is no such thing as "just the one".. this is a concept that you cannot comprehend.
    You cannot moderate or control your drinking..no offence buddy but if you were able to i think you would have done it by now!

    66 days in, feelin supersonic!
    Abstinence is key.

    recommend to a friend :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    souls wrote: »
    best of luck with the job blue!and if you don't get it don't worry!keep trying. I believe that would only be a positive thing for your recovery! The stress thing is interesting! :O i most certainly haven't mastered dealing with that little chestnut! i have a lot of pent up anger at times,so i might invest in punching bag!haha I'm going to look into different herbal teas which i hear can help.but sometimes i just stop what I'm doing, close my eyes and take a few deep breaths and slow exhales.. works a treat even if i look like a mental patient i couldn't give a monkeys' what other people think!

    i don't watch much tv,but i hear ppl at work avidly suggesting various tv series on netflix! haha there's loads! hope you are well!

    Thanks a million, without work I feel a little aimless!! I will keep U posted! I was only telling someone this week that a punching bags what I need for sure!! Keep at the deepbreathing when necessary!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    souls wrote: »
    just a little note to self:

    There is no such thing as "just the one".. this is a concept that you cannot comprehend.
    You cannot moderate or control your drinking..no offence buddy but if you were able to i think you would have done it by now!

    66 days in, feelin supersonic!
    Abstinence is key.

    recommend to a friend :)
    Excellent note to self!! Same here those thoughts cross y mind all the time but not ONCE in the last few years has it ended well. I still miss it sometimes but that is just my crazy brain! Saturday nights are the absolute worst former I would love to have something to do or some sore friends to hang out with nd I am working on that. Sitting in doing nothing gets to me a bit but I am going to go out for a long walk and listen to some tunes. 66 days! You are doing amazing! Maybe I need a hobby :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Excellent note to self!! Same here those thoughts cross y mind all the time but not ONCE in the last few years has it ended well. I still miss it sometimes but that is just my crazy brain! Saturday nights are the absolute worst former I would love to have something to do or some sore friends to hang out with nd I am working on that. Sitting in doing nothing gets to me a bit but I am going to go out for a long walk and listen to some tunes. 66 days! You are doing amazing! Maybe I need a hobby :)

    Don't let your mind romanticize your drinking days..dont lose sight of why you have made the decision to stop.. its only natural i suppose to think like that occasionally, but always keep to the forefront the agony and devastation alcohol has played in your life. although I'm loving this transition and process of development, i don't get complacent! always be mindful and avoid triggers!

    as the boys and gals here will preach 'change nothing and nothing changes'
    i have completely changed my daily life activities!
    not saying its easy,in fact it was hell at the start. in the first week or two i would get up and go running if i got a cravings,this was as late as 10/11pm..things have progressed since then but again its not to be complacent! so keep at it blue!just worry about today,meditate,drink some tea. or just go straight to bed! today might be tough but theres always tomorrow! stay the course :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    I'm off it nearly 3 years and I find my daily rhythm has completely changed from my boozing days. I find I wake regularly at the same time and after spending each day out and about with my new activities, find I'm usually knackered by 7 or 8pm and glad to be home and settling in for the night.

    Back in the day, I would have started the day tired, would have dragged myself out of bed (not always) struggled through work just waiting for the bell to go so I could have a drink, then stay up all night doing that and repeat the next day. Boring, unproductive, expensive and bad for my health.

    Life is a million times better now and I am very happy to put up with the odd comment that I am apparently 'boring' because I don't fancy spending the night in a smelly pub, giving someone else my money so I can be sick the next day. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Bluebluesky


    souls wrote: »
    Don't let your mind romanticize your drinking days..dont lose sight of why you have made the decision to stop.. its only natural i suppose to think like that occasionally, but always keep to the forefront the agony and devastation alcohol has played in your life. although I'm loving this transition and process of development, i don't get complacent! always be mindful and avoid triggers!

    as the boys and gals here will preach 'change nothing and nothing changes'
    i have completely changed my daily life activities!
    not saying its easy,in fact it was hell at the start. in the first week or two i would get up and go running if i got a cravings,this was as late as 10/11pm..things have progressed since then but again its not to be complacent! so keep at it blue!just worry about today,meditate,drink some tea. or just go straight to bed! today might be tough but theres always tomorrow! stay the course :)

    Yeah euphoric recall plays a bit of a part here I must be honest! I had such a lovely day today, up at 10 walked the beach and went for breakfast. Just enjoyed doing bits and pieces in the afternoon and then met q friend for coffee, felt great all day! I will trade that for a hangover any day of the week thank you very much. What teas did you buy and do you find them an good?
    I am going to go for another stroll shortly and go to my AA meeting, I really like heading to them on a Sunday night it gets me out for a while in the evenings. I moved back to my parents home last year and they are super supportive sometimes to get3 out for a few hours especially on a Sunday evening does me the world of good. AND I have some Easter Egg left. Happy :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭enoughalready


    I don't fancy spending the night in a smelly pub, giving someone else my money so I can be sick the next day. - I love that line hubba - it's so true! Think I'll quote that the next time someone has a go at me for being "boring" and not drinking lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    hubba wrote: »
    I'm off it nearly 3 years and I find my daily rhythm has completely changed from my boozing days. I find I wake regularly at the same time and after spending each day out and about with my new activities, find I'm usually knackered by 7 or 8pm and glad to be home and settling in for the night.

    Back in the day, I would have started the day tired, would have dragged myself out of bed (not always) struggled through work just waiting for the bell to go so I could have a drink, then stay up all night doing that and repeat the next day. Boring, unproductive, expensive and bad for my health.

    Life is a million times better now and I am very happy to put up with the odd comment that I am apparently 'boring' because I don't fancy spending the night in a smelly pub, giving someone else my money so I can be sick the next day. :)

    Hi Hubba.
    Nearly 3 years!?wow! thats a fantastic achievement, well done! you're an inspiration to people like myself! Ive read many of your posts which are of great help to me so thank you for that!

    I also have found lately a few snide comments regarding my complete change in lifestyle, I know im only 67 days in, but to me i have literally put blood,sweat and tears into creating a new life for myself, and i honestly was really hurt by what someone said the other day,to them a joke but it was really hurtful. i know the world isn't going to change with me.. but do people ever understand?... really like to hear any advice you would have on this?

    s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    hubba wrote: »
    I'm off it nearly 3 years and I find my daily rhythm has completely changed from my boozing days. I find I wake regularly at the same time and after spending each day out and about with my new activities, find I'm usually knackered by 7 or 8pm and glad to be home and settling in for the night.

    Back in the day, I would have started the day tired, would have dragged myself out of bed (not always) struggled through work just waiting for the bell to go so I could have a drink, then stay up all night doing that and repeat the next day. Boring, unproductive, expensive and bad for my health.

    Life is a million times better now and I am very happy to put up with the odd comment that I am apparently 'boring' because I don't fancy spending the night in a smelly pub, giving someone else my money so I can be sick the next day. :)

    Well done! What is your approach/programme to being sober? I am finding AA a bit overwhelming with getting to meetings, meeting a sponsor, praying each morn & night, doing some meditation etc. All on top of holding down a job. Maybe I am being ungrateful and need to focus on the fact that all the above is worth it if keeps me from drinking - which takes everything away from me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    hubba wrote: »
    I'm off it nearly 3 years and I find my daily rhythm has completely changed from my boozing days. I find I wake regularly at the same time and after spending each day out and about with my new activities, find I'm usually knackered by 7 or 8pm and glad to be home and settling in for the night.

    Back in the day, I would have started the day tired, would have dragged myself out of bed (not always) struggled through work just waiting for the bell to go so I could have a drink, then stay up all night doing that and repeat the next day. Boring, unproductive, expensive and bad for my health.

    Life is a million times better now and I am very happy to put up with the odd comment that I am apparently 'boring' because I don't fancy spending the night in a smelly pub, giving someone else my money so I can be sick the next day. :)




    Well done Hubba, great work .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    souls wrote: »
    I also have found lately a few snide comments regarding my complete change in lifestyle, I know im only 67 days in, but to me i have literally put blood,sweat and tears into creating a new life for myself, and i honestly was really hurt by what someone said the other day,to them a joke but it was really hurtful. i know the world isn't going to change with me.. but do people ever understand?... really like to hear any advice you would have on this?

    I don't think we can expect others to understand. And maybe understand is the wrong word. I know when I was a drinker, my mind was closed shut to the idea of life without alcohol. Shut firmly and that meant that all non drinkers were a species to be wary of and on occasion, to ridicule. These feelings of mine (and I know other drinkers are like this) were based on denial and fear. I can see that clearly now but I do remember how closed my mind was and how I avoided non drinkers like the plague.

    And yes, I have been hurt by comments from those who I thought were friends about me being 'boring' and when was I going to stop this and start drinking again. Hurt that they weren't bothering to try to understand what a huge deal it was to me but then again, they were pub friends. Family have also been guilty of looking at me, bemused, wondering why I don't drink but not daring to ask. At this stage I just have to tell myself that this is my journey and I have to travel it alone. I am doing it for myself so can't expect anyone to tell me how well I'm doing (except all of you here, who keep me sane). I am the only one who lives inside my head and that is where it matters at the end of the day.

    It may help to turn it around and feel compassion for drinkers as they are still in the dark whereas we have discovered a secret. The secret to REAL life. This sounds lofty, and any drinkers reading this - cue your scathing laugh - but there's no other way of putting it.. I feel like my life before sobriety was all somehow fake. So maybe try to be 'understanding' of your drinking friends, without being patronising and just try to accept them for who they are, just like you would like them to accept you. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    realies wrote: »
    Well done Hubba, great work .

    Couldn't have done it without you, Realies. Thank you. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    KeefF wrote: »
    Well done! What is your approach/programme to being sober? I am finding AA a bit overwhelming with getting to meetings, meeting a sponsor, praying each morn & night, doing some meditation etc. All on top of holding down a job. Maybe I am being ungrateful and need to focus on the fact that all the above is worth it if keeps me from drinking - which takes everything away from me?

    Hi KeefF,

    I read the Jason Vale book (very similar to Allan Carr's book) as I find it easy to buy into the whole conspiracy theory and that we are all being hoodwinked by the alcohol industry. I also am very concerned about mental health and acohol really does damage to your head in so many ways so the book just sealed the deal. So I like to feel I have 'escaped' the trap and no longer feel any urges to go back to it.

    I am generally an anxious person, though, which is probably what led me to abusing alcohol in the first place, so in an effort to feel calmer and more secure I practice positive thinking, mindfulness and keep a gratitude journal to promote good feeling and connection. I also exercise regularly and try (but often fail miserably) to eat well. I've had a big sweet tooth since I quit which I've yet to overcome.

    I have a hermit tendancy too so I need to force myself out to meet people and always feel better when I have. I love the idea of meditation and have practiced on and off but find it hard to stick with.

    And last but not lest, I am prone to depression so at all costs I guard against that and try to stop rumination by being mindful because once depression sets in with me, bad things happen so I can't afford to go there.

    I hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭KeefF


    hubba wrote: »
    Hi KeefF,

    I read the Jason Vale book (very similar to Allan Carr's book) as I find it easy to buy into the whole conspiracy theory and that we are all being hoodwinked by the alcohol industry. I also am very concerned about mental health and acohol really does damage to your head in so many ways so the book just sealed the deal. So I like to feel I have 'escaped' the trap and no longer feel any urges to go back to it.

    I am generally an anxious person, though, which is probably what led me to abusing alcohol in the first place, so in an effort to feel calmer and more secure I practice positive thinking, mindfulness and keep a gratitude journal to promote good feeling and connection. I also exercise regularly and try (but often fail miserably) to eat well. I've had a big sweet tooth since I quit which I've yet to overcome.

    I have a hermit tendancy too so I need to force myself out to meet people and always feel better when I have. I love the idea of meditation and have practiced on and off but find it hard to stick with.

    And last but not lest, I am prone to depression so at all costs I guard against that and try to stop rumination by being mindful because once depression sets in with me, bad things happen so I can't afford to go there.

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks this has been very helpful. I am also working on mindfulness as well as self-awareness/acceptance and importantly gratitude. I have all the tools at my disposal to overcome urges etc so I really need to use them. I know the simple truth that there is nothing for me in drink and when I take that first drink chaos ensues. I need to focus on being grateful that I understand what my problem is and that it can be managed and life made simple by simply not taking that first drink.
    Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    "Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength." - Mahatma Gandhi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Body is battered and bruised after that week in work!a well deserved lie on today. just had my ears plugged in to some Instrumental classical raga before i even get out of bed,well recommended. good for body and mind.

    I do believe a run is the order of the day!havent even looked out the window.hail,rain or shine (please shine :) ) I'm going! get a good go at my weights which I've started back at again later after a big breakfast! :)
    Not that i dwell on the past,but i do look back to reference at times.. the idea of starting my days like i just mentioned above only a few months back would of sounded as an impossible dream.

    Delighted with my two days off!might even take a road trip!ahhh this is great i can do whatever i want!
    This is freedom.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Ok, can anybody discuss brain/drink fog with me.. as in what exactly is it..? I was drinking excessively no denying it for quite a long period of time.. but I've been completely abstinent now nearly 3 months, and although I've been working my ass off physically, i still don't feel like my head is working right (e.g right there in that sentence, I'm finding it hard to write the correct words to convey what I'm saying).. i just, i don't mean to be funny here,but it might sound funny.. i feel a bit thick sometimes.. does anyone get me?or am i actually losing my marbles?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭enoughalready


    I totally get what you mean Souls, its as if you have a few seconds delay and sometimes you search for the words but can't find them or you can't remember how to do something so simple and you feel you look stupid. Its as if the fog is still in play, maybe we damaged too many brain cells - scary, scary thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    souls wrote: »
    Ok, can anybody discuss brain/drink fog with me.. as in what exactly is it..? I was drinking excessively no denying it for quite a long period of time.. but I've been completely abstinent now nearly 3 months, and although I've been working my ass off physically, i still don't feel like my head is working right (e.g right there in that sentence, I'm finding it hard to write the correct words to convey what I'm saying).. i just, i don't mean to be funny here,but it might sound funny.. i feel a bit thick sometimes.. does anyone get me?or am i actually losing my marbles?

    According to the scientists :rolleyes:, it's a slow process but your brain does start working again. You don't have the fresh brain you would have, had you never drank at all, but it does relearn how to problem solve and memory improves gradually over time. But no matter how you look at it, going back to drink ain't going to improve it AT ALL!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    PAWS

    An acronym for Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome. Post-acute withdrawal is a bio-psycho-social syndrome. It results from the combination of damage to the nervous system caused by alcohol or drugs and the psychosocial stress of coping with life without drugs or alcohol. The symptoms of PAW typically grow to peak intensity over three to six months after abstinence begins. The damage is usually reversible, meaning the major symptoms go away in time if proper treatment is received.

    TYPES OF PAW SYMPTOMS:
    1. Inability to think clearly
    2. Memory problems
    3. Emotional overreactions or numbness
    4. Sleep disturbances
    5. Physical coordination problems
    6. Stress sensitivity

    From:

    http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ery-terms.html (Glossary of Recovery Terms)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Thanks for the tips guys! I understand that it will take time for everything to fall into place..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Im going to a wedding this summer,that will be my first social event since quitting drinking but I was asked to go to on the stag, i declined straight away without even giving it a moments thought. was that a bit rude in your opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    Keep you're eye on that shadowy figure ... Don't let down your guard ....
    I have people knocking on my door,who i haven't seen now.. Im not ready to see any of them. Feeling tested right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭drydub


    souls wrote: »
    Im going to a wedding this summer,that will be my first social event since quitting drinking but I was asked to go to on the stag, i declined straight away without even giving it a moments thought. was that a bit rude in your opinion?
    Not rude at all. I've done weddings dry, it's doable. You were right not to go to the stag. Fair play to ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭souls


    There are times when i have fleeting thoughts of just having a glass of wine and proving to myself i can just leave it at that. I let thoughts like these occur.. I find they go as quick as they come. I've definitely learned a certain amount of mindfulness in the last few months..

    Still when the 'victim' persona raises its ugly head and i get thoughts like "ah ,no one gives a **** about the effort I've put in" , "I've no friends now so **** it" "life is still ****ing hard" it can be quite taxing on the system. i find my routine of excerise and meditation has helped significantly.. its no surprise that creating a new life for myself as apposed to the life of feeling deprived has worked no end for me.

    still i would love to hear advice and thoughts from anybody who has found other outlets or whatever to aid them when days seem dark..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    souls wrote: »
    There are times when i have fleeting thoughts of just having a glass of wine and proving to myself i can just leave it at that. I let thoughts like these occur.. I find they go as quick as they come. I've definitely learned a certain amount of mindfulness in the last few months..

    Still when the 'victim' persona raises its ugly head and i get thoughts like "ah ,no one gives a **** about the effort I've put in" , "I've no friends now so **** it" "life is still ****ing hard" it can be quite taxing on the system. i find my routine of excerise and meditation has helped significantly.. its no surprise that creating a new life for myself as apposed to the life of feeling deprived has worked no end for me.

    still i would love to hear advice and thoughts from anybody who has found other outlets or whatever to aid them when days seem dark..


    Gratitude -like it or not, has a lot to do with determining our future. When we have "real" or "spiritualistic" like gratitude, our lives can change immensely.

    You see, there is a true freedom that comes from true gratitude. Gratitude provides a sense of stability -of well being. Gratitude is well underrated in my opinion. Just to be able to be thankful for a small insignificant event in one's life can be life changing.

    Here are a few online sites that might help you souls,


    http://www.mywayout.org/community/

    Living with an alcoholic and the signs of alcoholism | bottled-up.com
    www.bottled-up.com/


    /www.soberrecovery.com/

    They might help you interact with other like minded people.


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