Reserve Defence Forces Recruitment 2015 **Update!**

Mycroft H

Hello Folks,

Seeking some advice here. I've 6/36 unaided vision. Presume this is far too bad for even the reserves?

Ta

Mycroft H

And yes, I had a look in military.ie; no mention of the eyesight requirements of the RDF; just the PDF/Naval Service/Air Corps.

Frosty McSnowballs

Mycroft H wrote: »

And yes, I had a look in military.ie; no mention of the eyesight requirements of the RDF; just the PDF/Naval Service/Air Corps.

I would imagine it is the same. Why would it not be?

Mycroft H

Just heard from a friend who's father who's an officer in the RDF that I may have a chance.

Frosty McSnowballs

Mycroft H wrote: »

Just heard from a friend who's father who's an officer in the RDF that I may have a chance.

I take it you are ok. The website states not less than 6/18 in each eye....are you not within that limit? I'm not too up on eyesight scales.

Mycroft H

6/36 is about twice as bad as the upper limit.

Frosty McSnowballs

Mycroft H wrote: »

6/36 is about twice as bad as the upper limit.

Oh fcuk, sorry dude but I don't see why there would be any difference in eyesight requirements. Don't take my word for it. Fire off an email to the recruitment section or contact them on Facebook.

Best of luck

goldenshower

Hi guys, as title says I am interesteed in rejoining the RDF(although I left when it was still the FCA). I am coming on 32 in 2 weeks time and currently a full-time student. I served for 2 years and was honourably discharged in 2000 as I could not commit properly to the training due to my work schedule. I won the best recruit award in my regiment(still have the plaque!) I was in an artillery regiment at the time (21st Bty, 8th FAR). I'm just wondering:
Am I now to old to be even considering rejoining?
Has the level of professionalism changed dramatically since the reorganisation as there was a lot of wasters when I was there?
Is there still a superiority complex between the PDF and the RDF(i.e. being called sandbags, etc.)?
Is there much integration between PDF and RDF?
How many RDF recruits are they looking for and is there any particular areas they are needing specifically?

P.S. I If anyone could tell me the training nights in Collins Brks I'd be grateful as am in cork

Cheers, Anto

Growler!!!

goldenshower wrote: »

Hi guys, as title says I am interesteed in rejoining the RDF(although I left when it was still the FCA). I am coming on 32 in 2 weeks time and currently a full-time student. I served for 2 years and was honourably discharged in 2000 as I could not commit properly to the training due to my work schedule. I won the best recruit award in my regiment(still have the plaque!) I was in an artillery regiment at the time (21st Bty, 8th FAR). I'm just wondering:
Am I now to old to be even considering rejoining?
Has the level of professionalism changed dramatically since the reorganisation as there was a lot of wasters when I was there?
Is there still a superiority complex between the PDF and the RDF(i.e. being called sandbags, etc.)?
Is there much integration between PDF and RDF?
How many RDF recruits are they looking for and is there any particular areas they are needing specifically?

P.S. I If anyone could tell me the training nights in Collins Brks I'd be grateful as am in cork

Cheers, Anto

Am I now to old to be even considering rejoining? No, upper age limit to join is 35


Has the level of professionalism changed dramatically since the reorganisation as there was a lot of wasters when I was there? I can't speak for other units but when I moved from Inf. after 15 odd years to a corp unit I noticed the professionalism has increased 10 fold. Gone are the days of mini fiefdoms, each NCO has been assigned a task, ie Logs, transport, training etc. and is called to task if they are deficient.


Is there still a superiority complex between the PDF and the RDF(i.e. being called sandbags, etc.)? There may have been but not anymore.


Is there much integration between PDF and RDF? Very much so, in my own unit it has got to the stage where a number of RDF pers have been invited on a joint exercise.


How many RDF recruits are they looking for and is there any particular areas they are needing specifically? Not sure at the mo, depends on your civi qualifications

P.S. I If anyone could tell me the training nights in Collins Brks I'd be grateful as am in cork Military.ie is your friend here. Go to the contact us page, there is a number for the barracks and as which nights your requested unit is training.

Hope it helps, I like you rejoined after a number of years. You'll have to do recruit and 3 star training again.

syklops

Is there still a superiority complex between the PDF and the RDF(i.e. being called sandbags, etc.)? There may have been but not anymore.

There may have been?

goldenshower

Nice one lads. Nah I knew about the upper age limit. I just meant would a 32 yr old, married, father of one be sorely out of place alongside spotty teens;-) Don't mind doing recruit training again. TBH I found it fun. Civi training is, I was a bar/restaurant/hotel manager. I'd be a fairly hands on type so was looking at infantry or back to artillery. Not the catering corps!

Anto

syklops

goldenshower wrote: »

Nice one lads. Nah I knew about the upper age limit. I just meant would a 32 yr old, married, father of one be sorely out of place alongside spotty teens;-) Don't mind doing recruit training again. TBH I found it fun. Civi training is, I was a bar/restaurant/hotel manager. I'd be a fairly hands on type so was looking at infantry or back to artillery. Not the catering corps!

Anto

Im in a similar boat. I was thinking about rejoining. Although I doubt I would be fit enough by the closing date. Something to shoot for for the next recruitment drive though.

I was in Ack Ack for 9 years and got honourably discharged in 2009 when I emmigrated.

I still get to shoot occasionally, but not with a GPMG or a Bofors L70.

goldenshower

+1 Syklops. Had to sell my .223 last year for financial reasons but god how I miss the F.N. and the Steyr . Tried ringing barracks and manpower for ages but just been getting the runaround. Tomorrow I suppose.....

Anto

syklops

goldenshower wrote: »

+1 Syklops. Had to sell my .223 last year for financial reasons but god how I miss the F.N. and the Steyr . Tried ringing barracks and manpower for ages but just been getting the runaround. Tomorrow I suppose.....

Anto

Im also a bit concerned about standing out like a sore thumb. A hefty 30 year old in the middle of all the 17 year olds...

goldenshower

Know what u'r saying dude. Shure I've totally renovated my own house over last 7 yrs, have an 11 yr old daughter, got married, etc., Could I safely presume that these things are taken into account at the interview stage? TBH, if its anything like going back to college as a mature student(like me) would that not be beneficial as there is a bit of maturity and life experience involved.

Anto

donegaldude

goldenshower wrote: »

Nice one lads. Nah I knew about the upper age limit. I just meant would a 32 yr old, married, father of one be sorely out of place alongside spotty teens;-) Don't mind doing recruit training again. TBH I found it fun. Civi training is, I was a bar/restaurant/hotel manager. I'd be a fairly hands on type so was looking at infantry or back to artillery. Not the catering corps!

Anto

There is no infantry unit in Collins anymore so it's off to Limerick if you fancy it. Arty Cav and Engrs I think are the units there now. If you apply for it, the choice is on the application form on where you want to go.

Considering you are now settled down, you would be suited to the RDF more so than someone who is just going into college and might clear off after a short time.

Yes you will be stuck in with some younger than you but you will all be in it together.

Don't expect recruit training to be like what it was before, there is a new syllabus being finalised and your basic 2 weeks to become a 2 star is out the window.

Anyone instructing recruits now firstly has to do an instructors course AFAIK. Basically the standards are being raised across the board, which I hope will get rid of the fat/lazy/wasters/bar stoolers that have plagued the RDF for years!

syklops

donegaldude wrote: »

There is no infantry unit in Collins anymore so it's off to Limerick if you fancy it. Arty Cav and Engrs I think are the units there now. If you apply for it, the choice is on the application form on where you want to go.

Considering you are now settled down, you would be suited to the RDF more so than someone who is just going into college and might clear off after a short time.

Yes you will be stuck in with some younger than you but you will all be in it together.

Don't expect recruit training to be like what it was before, there is a new syllabus being finalised and your basic 2 weeks to become a 2 star is out the window.

Anyone instructing recruits now firstly has to do an instructors course AFAIK. Basically the standards are being raised across the board, which I hope will get rid of the fat/lazy/wasters/bar stoolers that have plagued the RDF for years!

The fitness tests are the start of what appears to be a dramatic overhaul of standards, which I am very pleased about.

You said the 2 basic weeks to become a 2 star are out the window, can you describe what it is being replaced by while remaining OpSec aware?

The question earlier is there still superiority between the PDF and RDF, there was up until when i left and to be honest there always will be until the gap between the PDF and RDF is narrowed in terms of training, fitness and professionalism. A PDF soldier gets his stars after about 2 months of full time training. No wonder there is a bit of superiority when someone in the RDF goes on a 2 week drinking binge and gets their stars at the end of it. Its needed an overhaul for a long time, and it looks like it is finally happening. This is great news for the RDF IMO.

donegaldude

The time taken and subjects to be covered are going to be extended. That's all I know (publicly anyway).

A PDF man/woman takes 16-18 weeks to get their 2 stars not 2 months.

There will always be a gap between both, but it is up to RDF people to strive to bridge the gap, and the PDF must not mind the gap being closed either!

I hope with the onset of fitness testing for all this year will help weed out the hangers on and mini empire builders but when the standard for passing is so low this year I won't hold my breath.

In short it's up to the leaders to lead from the top down, starting with dress/deportment/fitness/general attitude and working from there. You can't respect someone who is going through you for a short cut over your uniform when they can barely do up their trouser legs/jacket strings.

syklops

donegaldude wrote: »

The time taken and subjects to be covered are going to be extended. That's all I know (publicly anyway).

A PDF man/woman takes 16-18 weeks to get their 2 stars not 2 months.

I couldn't remember exactly how long it was, but that aids my point.

There will always be a gap between both, but it is up to RDF people to strive to bridge the gap, and the PDF must not mind the gap being closed either!

Of course there will be. The Territorial SAS is still made fun of by the real SAS, thats the nature of the beast, but when your average Reserve is on a par fitness and discipline wise as your average regular, there will be a lot more mutual respect.

goldenshower

Thanks Donegaldude. Yeah i was hoping the standards had improved a bit since back in the day. I remember one lad who was 3-4" under the height and all he got told was "shure you'll grow":rolleyes:

ruserious

I know of one guy who left the RDF and rejoined some time later and managed to get his old number recognised and thus re-took his old rank of Corporal and had his PMS updated. Worth considering.

ruserious

Go for it. If they won't take you they don't take you but let them make that decision. Give it everything and with a bit of blind luck. If you excuse the pun

Growler!!!

ruserious wrote: »

I know of one guy who left the RDF and rejoined some time later and managed to get his old number recognised and thus re-took his old rank of Corporal and had his PMS updated. Worth considering.

You'll probably find that even though HE left the RDF, the cadre kept him on the books for some creative accounting. Recently got to look at my old pers folder and saw 3 different versions of my signature for re-enlistment;)

Frosty McSnowballs

ruserious wrote: »

I know of one guy who left the RDF and rejoined some time later and managed to get his old number recognised and thus re-took his old rank of Corporal and had his PMS updated. Worth considering.

I'm pretty sure ya can't physically do that, unless he wasn't discharged on the PMS.

Owryan

Wouldnt worry too much bout the age thing. I was 32 when I rejoined.

Just act ur age and not that of those around you and you ll be grand.

ruserious

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

I'm pretty sure ya can't physically do that, unless he wasn't discharged on the PMS.

He made an application to the GOC I believe to recognise his prior service. He rejoined as a recruit and a few months later, back to Corporal.

Frosty McSnowballs

ruserious wrote: »

He made an application to the GOC I believe to recognise his prior service. He rejoined as a recruit and a few months later, back to Corporal.

That's odd. We're there no other Cpl's in the unit? PMS wise, there's a lot of messing that would need to be done to let a guy serve on his previous service number. So, he didn't have to re do the PNCO Cse or anything?

Growler!!!

ruserious wrote: »

He made an application to the GOC I believe to recognise his prior service. He rejoined as a recruit and a few months later, back to Corporal.

Similar to myself then, after a year and a half I was back up to my old rank. Still had to do all the courses and got a new army number.

ruserious

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

That's odd. We're there no other Cpl's in the unit? PMS wise, there's a lot of messing that would need to be done to let a guy serve on his previous service number. So, he didn't have to re do the PNCO Cse or anything?

No, he got a new number I believe but got his old service and courses recognised onto his new one.

Frosty McSnowballs

ruserious wrote: »

No, he got a new number I believe but got his old service and courses recognised onto his new one.

Ah ok, that's normal.

It also happens with PDF NCO'S who complete a potential officers course. Since they effectively discharge for the purpose of becoming an officer, they get a new number and file. Effectively, all the things they were qualified in, does not transfer electronically as they are "different people".

ruserious

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Ah ok, that's normal.

It also happens with PDF NCO'S who complete a potential officers course. Since they effectively discharge for the purpose of becoming an officer, they get a new number and file. Effectively, all the things they were qualified in, does not transfer electronically as they are "different people".

Yep, so anyone rejoining can presumably apply to get previous service and rank recognised? By precedent at least.

Owryan

It was the case that ex PDF who joined the FCA/RDF could join at their pdf rank if there was a vacancy. They could also get whatever courses they had completed recognized and entered into their file.

From experience I know a few ex fca guys eho rejoined but had to go through rec training again. Something to do with their old record being sealed and no longer available afair.

Not sure if thats still the case tho.

TomRooney

So as an ex PDF member myself I could join the RDF at my old rank and have the courses I've done recognised. Is this still the case?

sharpy2010

I dont know is their a time limit/ age on how long youhave left PDF before starting RDF.

As regards the change up going on if the RDF can raise its standards and prodffesionalism then it will go far to be recognised by the PDF but if there is still people looking for drinking camps then they will find it harder to search for them. The Army is changing and for the better too.

illeagles_mcc

Hi everyone,
did a quick search and couldn't really find a designated thread for this so here it is. just a few questions, maybe others are wondering also,is the process similiar to the PDF recruitment competition? i assume the fitness exam is the same. what other aspects/differences should we expect? has anyone heard anything back yet? i know people who applied for PDF have had fitness exams already.

any help appreciated

Morpheus

RDF are only taking applications at the minute.
It will be the exact same process up until you complete the medical and fitness tests as far as I know.
its all here:
http://www.military.ie/careers/reserve/join-the-reserve/

illeagles_mcc

illeagles_mcc wrote: »

Hi everyone,
did a quick search and couldn't really find a designated thread for this so here it is. just a few questions, maybe others are wondering also,is the process similiar to the PDF recruitment competition? i assume the fitness exam is the same. what other aspects/differences should we expect? has anyone heard anything back yet? i know people who applied for PDF have had fitness exams already.

any help appreciated

I applied to RDF this time last week, haven't heard anything back yet (other than the confirmation email of receipt of application). Let's know if you do!

EncinoMan

Hi. What's the latest on the current round of RDF applications? should I have heard back by now? as the PDF recruitment seems to be well underway at this stage. I applied for Stephen's in Kilkenny, if that makes a difference.

Morpheus

competition doesnt close until 9th april you may not hear back until after that.

Member 420

I gather that the Fitness Tests are taking place before the end of this month. But would anyone here know roughly when the Interview, Attestation, etc takes place as I may not be in Ireland for a couple of weeks over the summer which could cause a problem.

MRnotlob606

could possibly take months

mcko

If we see recruits by sept then we will be happy.

concussion

They're not messing around folks, fitness tests are coming VERY soon and recruit training will be conducted this summer. Units will have 2* PTEs come September.

Doctor14

This isn't going to be the same as previous recruit training. I highly doubt there will be any 2*s by September in any significant numbers. The days of "summer camp" training for recruits and jobs for everyone else are over. Recruit training will happen when it happens and not when the unit wants it to happen.

And if I am wrong, then it is time to quit and go home. It originally took 1 week to train a recruit (way back in time), then it went to 2 weeks, then to several months. If we go back to doing it as fast as possible then the RDF with never work.

concussion

A few weeks ago I was shown provisional dates for recruit training this year. Full time training will still be conducted over the summer and there's a stronger emphasis on weekend training rather than evening parades over an extended period.

That was the intent as of January when the Bde training plan was issued...I haven't seen finalised dates for the training yet but I know when the fitness tests have been set and I am reliably informed that this is going to move quickly.

Doctor14

concussion wrote: »

A few weeks ago I was shown provisional dates for recruit training this year. Full time training will still be conducted over the summer and there's a stronger emphasis on weekend training rather than evening parades over an extended period.

I saw those dates as well....and saw the dates pass with nothing happening. I wouldn't put any faith in them.

illeagles_mcc

yeah so have fitness test on sat. have been doing a little running and happy with my times, and push ups/sit ups etc, anyone got any other tips/useful info? probably have to get rid of beard i would imagine?

kiddums

Bit of a long shot on this, but does anyone have the requirements for the RDF? All I can see is the PDF fitness requirements.

I wasn't expecting the fitness so soon, and theres a chance I won't be able to make it, is it advised to let them know? Or just not turn up?

OwenM

Last day for applications is today......

twinydavid

kiddums wrote: »

Bit of a long shot on this, but does anyone have the requirements for the RDF? All I can see is the PDF fitness requirements.

I wasn't expecting the fitness so soon, and theres a chance I won't be able to make it, is it advised to let them know? Or just not turn up?

Its the exact same

illeagles_mcc

kiddums wrote: »

Bit of a long shot on this, but does anyone have the requirements for the RDF? All I can see is the PDF fitness requirements.

I wasn't expecting the fitness so soon, and theres a chance I won't be able to make it, is it advised to let them know? Or just not turn up?

its the same test as pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4MNrDmKi3Q&feature=player_embedded

if you dont turn up they probably wont entertain any more applications you make. you would be better off just giving it a go