Why do the Irish need to be liked?

CaraMay

'Oh everyone loves the Irish' yadda,yadda, yadda

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

anncoates

Because 4.5 million of us all think the same way and are easily categorised.

jester77

We better not like your post then!

jaykay74

CaraMay wrote: »

'Oh everyone loves the Irish' yadda,yadda, yadda

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

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ygolometsipe

I really hope your post gets loads of likes

Duckworth_Luas

CaraMay wrote: »

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Nonsense. Nobody even likes Belgium. Bunch of dicks!

CaraMay

ygolometsipe wrote: »

I really hope your post gets loads of likes

You see that's the thing. I don't need America / Beyoncé / you lot to like me.....

gugleguy

talk to joe so that he might hear both sides of the argument. I have an idea which side will prevail. bah what am i saying?! lets all fone into adrian boyle. more after hours context.

Czarcasm

In fairness, I don't think it's strictly an 'Irish' thing. Everybody likes to be liked, or popular, or whatever.

Anyone who says they don't feel any need to be popular is never disappointed

CaraMay

But its so OTT.... I particularly hate the way we crawl up the bum of the Americans.

elefant

CaraMay wrote: »

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.
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Dya reckon the Belgians meet such pronouncements with polite muted applause?

SmurfX

Insecurity. Did it ever strike you as odd how in a country so vocal about how great it is has record emigration rates? A lot of people deep down don't truly love Ireland. They want to, and being told how great they are helps convince them.

CaraMay

elefant wrote: »

Dya reckon the Belgians meet such pronouncements with polite muted applause?

Having lived there for 6 years - yeah I do!!! :cool:

KevinEldon

Everyone wants to be liked,except sociopaths.

Most crowds regardless of nationality react the same way when a band/or singer mention their city or country.Thats why the band/singer says it,for a cheap easy crowd reaction.

What an odd thing to be annoyed by.

CaraMay

KevinEldon wrote: »

What an odd thing to be annoyed by.

Maybe

it started annoying me again at the Oscar Wilde Irish awards before the Oscars. Conan O'Brien got an award for 'being Irish' yet his relations haven't lived here since 1860's... How ITNOG is he Irish? Why do we need him and encourage him to be Irish? He is American....

There is a difference between wanting to be liked and needing it.

Czarcasm

CaraMay wrote: »

But its so OTT.... I particularly hate the way we crawl up the bum of the Americans.

CaraMay wrote: »

Beyoncé

Because that's why!

CaraMay

Czarcasm wrote: »

Because that's why!

Don't get it?

Catphish

CaraMay wrote: »

'Oh everyone loves the Irish' yadda,yadda, yadda

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

I wouldn't respond to that purely on the basis that you just mentioned, they said it else where last week. It's so false. I think it would be a mistake to think that people actually believe what artists / bands etc. say, I'd imagine the ones that do respond are 'caught up in the moment' so to speak, and don't really believe it themselves. Sure, they're probably back stage saying what an awful kip it is to each other. Not something I'd lose any sleep over though.

alchemist33

CaraMay wrote: »

'Oh everyone loves the Irish' yadda,yadda, yadda

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

So the thread title should be "Why does every nationality need to be liked?"

CaraMay

alchemist33 wrote: »

So the thread title should be "Why does every nationality need to be liked?"

well I haven't been to every nation but I have spent enough time knocking around this country to know that the Irish pack like to be liked.

biko

I wouldn't say it's an Irish thing. It's the same all over the shop.

Pat Mustard

CaraMay wrote: »

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America?

I don't know anybody who says this.

Perhaps there is a different country that believes that it has a 'special' relationship with the USA.

Elmo

CaraMay wrote: »

How ITNOG is he Irish?

Brilliant TXT SPK for hibero-phrases ITNOWGAL (in the name of what's good and living).

We have an inferiority complex. We don't even like ourselves.

MRnotlob606

we deserve our attention, that is being recognized as a charitable country and a neutral country

Questo Piatto

CaraMay wrote: »

Don't get it?

I believe it was an analingus joke.

Paramite Pie

CaraMay wrote: »

Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

Should the thread not be 'Why does every nationality need to be liked?'

You've already established that every other nation is the exact same so why are you picking on us? Go pick on Belgium or something....:cool:

CaraMay

Catphish wrote: »

I think it would be a mistake to think that people actually believe what artists / bands etc

But why do they cheer then?

CaraMay

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

we deserve our attention, that is being recognized as a charitable country and a neutral country

Which would be less important to America Inc than say, for example, our low corporate tax rate.

Like the whole 'Corporations come to Ireland for the people', eh no, they come for the tax benefits - see Apple

Catphish

CaraMay wrote: »

But why do they cheer then?

Like I said, caught up in the moment I'd imagine. I highly doubt anyone believes it.

orangesoda

Us in Ulster don't crave to be liked by yanks, sure we don't even like eachother

CaraMay

orangesoda wrote: »

Us in Ulster don't crave to be liked by yanks, sure we don't even like eachother

Well ye gave Billy Boy Clinton a warm welcome this week.

Anyway, it just as well ye don't crave to be liked.

orangesoda

CaraMay wrote: »

Well ye gave Billy Boy Clinton a warm welcome this week.

Anyway, it just as well ye don't crave to be liked.

I care more about my tube of toothpaste than i do about bill clinton so i do

marc96

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

we deserve our attention, that is being recognized as a charitable country and a neutral country

How are u a neutral country when u let America use Shannon for their war in the Middle East??

CaraMay

marc96 wrote: »

How are u a neutral country when u let America use Shannon for their war in the Middle East??

Well said.

tin79

CaraMay wrote: »

'Oh everyone loves the Irish' yadda,yadda, yadda

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

30 days since you last felt this irritated by some random thing? That's my guess. Can only be that.

WesternZulu

CaraMay wrote: »

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Sure the Belgians don't even like eachother, nevermind needing to be liked by anyone else.
Bad comparison.
Plus every band/artist does that because it gets a reaction everywhere they go.
Not unique at all to Ireland.

CaraMay wrote: »

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

If every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance why single out Ireland?
The UK according to their media are America's best buds, whereas in reality the US don't view them in the same way at all in terms of global importance.

CaraMay wrote: »

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

No more so than anywhere else really but sure lets just stick to the mantra that Ireland and everything about it is sh*t.

Femme_Fatale

I know what the OP means: it's like when people are being interviewed on chat shows and feel under pressure to say Ireland is great, and then a big "Woop woop" from the audience. So cringey.
Less of the "we" though. A lot of Irish people are the reverse also - "Only in Ireland", "Typical Irish xyz" and all that shyte.
Most Irish people subscribe to neither I'm sure.

CaraMay

WesternZulu wrote: »

If every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance why single out Ireland?

Because I live here and have to listen to it.

I don't really care what the media in Angola spout as I cant hear it. I hear what the irish media spout and its irritating.

CaraMay

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I know what the OP means: it's like when people are being interviewed on chat shows and feel under pressure to say Ireland is great, and then a big "Woop woop" from the audience. So cringey.

Exactly

WesternZulu

CaraMay wrote: »

Because I live here and have to listen to it.

I don't really care what the media in Angola spout as I cant hear it. I hear what the irish media spout and its irritating.

So you're saying that it's the same in every country but just because you live here it means that Ireland is worse?

Rant away there, let logic guide your way.

Fratton Fred

It did make me smile when Obama was over and harping on about his Irish ancestry.

Then flew to London and claimed to be British the following day.

Followed by a visit to his ancestral home of Germany.......

Donkey Oaty

marc96 wrote: »

How are u a neutral country when u let America use Shannon for their war in the Middle East??

Just as an aside, there was a discussion in parliament about this not too long ago, which bears an uncanny resemblance to After Hours debates.

Sh1tbag OToole

We need the EU or the Cat Lick church to be saying to us "you're doing a great job, keep those filled envelopes coming, we'll look after you"

Its just how we were brought up

jimgoose

Because if it didn't his name would be Ewar Woowar, but twenty-five on Christmas Day. Mmm, grumble... 'Goose wanders out the thread door again to find an interesting rock...

CaraMay

WesternZulu wrote: »

So you're saying that it's the same in every country but just because you live here it means that Ireland is worse?

Rant away there, let logic guide your way.

No I'm saying it probably is the same in other places but I don't care because I only live here. Geddit?

elefant

CaraMay wrote: »

No I'm saying it probably is the same in other places but I don't care because I only live here. Geddit?

So you really could have literally picked any trait in people that you don't like, and stuck it in the thread title.

Why do Irish people feel the need to chew with their mouths open?

Why do Irish people feel the need to talk in the cinema?

Why do Irish people feel the need to watch so much television?

WilyCoyote

elefant wrote: »

So you really could have literally picked any trait in people that you don't like, and stuck it in the thread title.

Why do Irish people feel the need to chew with their mouths open?

Why do Irish people feel the need to talk in the cinema?

Why do Irish people feel the need to watch so much television?

Chewing with mouth open? Gives the person sitting opposite an inside insight
Talk in the cinema? Silent movies went ended before Maureen O' Hara
Watching so much TV? Have you tried staring at a microwave

don't mention. coat already on

Alf Veedersane

CaraMay wrote: »

'Oh everyone loves the Irish' yadda,yadda, yadda

Why do people at concerts roar with excitement when the performing artists shouts 'Ireland, I love you!!!'. Do they not realised they shouted 'Belgium, I love you!' just last week.

Likewise the waffle we spout about how important we are in America? Do they not realise that every nation has an over inflated sense of their own importance?

The fact that we need to be 'liked' is so irritating.

We hate ourselves so we need to be loved by someone.

Catphish

Now you've gone and done it..

elefant wrote: »

Why do Irish people feel the need to chew with their mouths open?

Removing nationality from the equation, anyone that does this is a fúcking pig.

Mardy Bum

Nations have their egos just like individuals.

CrabRevolution

The OP's post makes no sense, it says every country is the same....but that Ireland is terrible because of it. This strange dual relationship is often seen on boards though, where a behavior is praised when other nationalities are at it, but criticised when Irish people do it.

For example:
Rude, blunt people in other countries= praised for being direct/matter of fact/no nonsense.
Rude and/or blunt people here= Just typical Irish arseholes.
Friendly/helpful people abroad= Friendly, sound people, always want to help.
Friendly/helpful Irish people= Insincere, fake, must want something for themselves.

This thread has also inspired me to go and watch the Simpsons episode where Spinal Tap are playing and their singer (David St. Hubbins I think ) just has the name of the town written on the back of his guitar. Never more than 10 feet from a classic simpsons reference....