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One of Dublin's most architecturally significant buildings to open as a Gaelcholáiste

  • 07-03-2014 1:25pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/loreto-abbey-to-open-doors-to-irish-language-post-primary-1.1713595
    Sold for €17.7m in 1999 and bought from NAMA for €2.3m, Rathfarnam's Loreto Abbey, which dates back to the 18th century, is to house Gaelcholáiste an Phiarsaigh, the first all-Irish secondary school to be established in south Dublin since Tallaght’s Coláiste de hÍde was founded in 1993.

    The huge growth in demand for Irish language schooling has intensified the need for Irish language post-primary schools to accommodate the numerous Gaelscoileanna that have sprung up across Dublin city and county in recent years.

    After campaigning for 10 years for a site to house an Irish language post-primary school in the area, parents were told in January that the Department of Education had identified a permanent location suitable for the school.

    “There has been a clear demand for a Gaelcholáiste in this area for a long time and this can be seen in the level of demand for places in Coláiste Eoin and Íosagáin. We hope the new school will cater for the need that is there at the moment and that we will see in the future."

    http://www.gaelcholaiste.com/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    what's the angle here?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Good to see something finally go in there. I'd say there's quite a bit of work to be done on it over the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Good to see them making use of such a lovely building and great to see such a demand for a gaelcholáiste


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Well it's been more like a 20yr campaign to get a Gaelcholáiste for the area. I'm pleased to see that the building will be a school again rather then a clutter of apartments built by a shady developer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    what's the angle here?:confused:

    Wheres my NAMA joe? Wheres my NAMA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be offended by this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be offended by this?

    Probably hoping to ryle the anti-Irish language brigade.

    Personally, I am against the compulsary teaching of Irish, but no-one is forced to go to a Gael Scoil(except by their parents perhaps). First and foremost a Gael Scoil is a school, and i would much rather see a culturally and architecturally significant building be used as a school than for the plush offices of a new quango, or sold to some shady developer so he can build appartments in a building which was never designed to house appartments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be offended by this?

    I heard that the author of the piece had once kicked a puppy to death.

    Also, is a racist.


    .... That oughta' do it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    And now over to our weather studio for the. .er. .weather......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    If it's the building I think it is, it's good to hear it's being used for something, even better if it's for an educational purpose and will be architecturally preserved.

    Don't see the issue with people opting to having their kids schooled in the language of the nation myself.

    We thought about seedling our child to the local Gaelscoil- as we would have dearly liked him to grow up speaking the language properly - but we were put off by what we thought was essentially a mildly unpleasant interrogatory approach in assessing our suitability and stuff like the principal insisting on periodically addressing us in Irish when it was clear our grasp of the language was very rusty.

    'I've often wondered since if the sudden popularity of Irish schools in part a reaction to the amount of foreign nationals that have came to Ireland and by extension, entered the school system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    anncoates wrote: »

    'I've often wondered since if the sudden popularity of Irish schools in part a reaction to the amount of foreign nationals that have came to Ireland and by extension, entered the school system.

    Controversial option alert!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    anncoates wrote: »
    If it's the building I think it is, it's good to hear it's being used for something, even better if it's for an educational purpose and will be architecturally preserved.

    Don't see the issue with people opting to having their kids schooled in the language of the nation myself.

    We thought about seedling our child to the local Gaelscoil- as we would have dearly liked him to grow up speaking the language properly - but we were put off by what we thought was essentially a mildly unpleasant interrogatory approach in assessing our suitability and stuff like the principal insisting on periodically addressing us in Irish when it was clear our grasp of the language was very rusty.

    'I've often wondered since if the sudden popularity of Irish schools in part a reaction to the amount of foreign nationals that have came to Ireland and by extension, entered the school system.

    The Gaelscoils have become popular since the late 80's early 90's no inward migration during those days!

    Both myself and my sister went to GaelScoils closest schools to us in reality but we live on the edge of the Gaeltacht anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    syklops wrote: »
    Controversial option alert!

    Certainly wasn't intended as such.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    anncoates wrote: »
    Certainly wasn't intended as such.

    I think few people intend for their opinion to be controversial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    syklops wrote: »
    I think few people intend for their opinion to be controversial.

    Your optimism is touching. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Coincidentally, someone said on the (latest) racism thread that they heard it is the case some parents are opting to send their kids to a gaelscoil because of less exposure to fardners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Coincidentally, someone said on the (latest) racism thread that they heard it is the case some parents are opting to send their kids to a gaelscoil because of less exposure to fardners.

    I would reason that its less exposure to scumbags to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    syklops wrote: »
    I would reason that its less exposure to scumbags to be honest.

    It's funny that you would freely acknowledge that a school type is sufficiently homogeneous enough that people would choose it purely on basis of avoiding one portion of society but then completely deny that it might ever be chosen on different type of exclusionary basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    syklops wrote: »
    I would reason that its less exposure to scumbags to be honest.

    It's mildly amusing that a language which was derided for centuries as being the language of ignorant pesants is now so suddenly being derided as the language of elitists....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    conorhal wrote: »
    It's mildly amusing that a language which was derided for centuries as being the language of ignorant pesants is now so suddenly being derided as the language of elitists....

    I wasn't deriding the language as being the language of elitists. Simply pointing out that places in Gael Scoils tend to be in short supply and the schools themselves don't put up with students disrupting people who want to learn, or want to be left alone. I went to a private school and it seemed to me that so long as the parents paid the fees the school was happy for little johnny to cause as much disruption as he was capable of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Historic building actually used?! Madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    syklops wrote: »
    I wasn't deriding the language as being the language of elitists. Simply pointing out that places in Gael Scoils tend to be in short supply and the schools themselves don't put up with students disrupting people who want to learn, or want to be left alone. I went to a private school and it seemed to me that so long as the parents paid the fees the school was happy for little johnny to cause as much disruption as he was capable of.

    Sorry, I wasn't accusing you of anything, just pointing out a fact that mildly amused me :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Looks like one of those threads where the OP dumps his load, then fucks off assuming we all give a all give a toss about the shít he left behind.


    I reckon the vast majority of people on boards don't give a rat's arse about buildings in south county Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Lapin wrote: »
    Looks like one of those threads where the OP dumps his load, then fucks off assuming we all give a all give a toss about the shít he left behind.


    I reckon the vast majority of people on boards don't give a rat's arse about buildings in south county Dublin.

    He'll be very disappointed when he revisits this thread over the weekend, when expecting 18 pages of RARARA, wheres my Nama Joe and Oh noes, the gailscoils are takin ur jerbs, he finds people aren't bothered or just don't care.

    I feel for you OP, I really do.














    Actually No. I don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Do students attending Gael Schools still get extra points for sitting their Leaving Cert in Irish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Do students attending Gael Schools still get extra points for sitting their Leaving Cert in Irish?

    http://www.examinations.ie/index.php?l=en&mc=ca&sc=im


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Isn't that where they think poor Philip Cairns is buried?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Isn't that where they think poor Philip Cairns is buried?

    Most of the surrounding grounds have been turned into apartments over the last 15 years so it's unlikely that he's there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    syklops wrote: »
    Wheres my NAMA joe? Wheres my NAMA?

    Read that to the turn of chirpy chirpy cheep cheep

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL



    Never understood why that doesn't get mentioned more in these discussions. I've nothing against the language or anything but that allowance of extra points puts others at an unfair disadvantage. Someone could miss out on a place in college just because someone else decided to do it in a different language. Doesn't seem right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Never understood why that doesn't get mentioned more in these discussions. I've nothing against the language or anything but that allowance of extra points puts others at an unfair disadvantage. Someone could miss out on a place in college just because someone else decided to do it in a different language. Doesn't seem right.


    There's a leaving cert forum last time I checked, not sure what relevance what you're posting has with this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    There's a leaving cert forum last time I checked, not sure what relevance what you're posting has with this thread.

    It's as relevant here as the thread is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Ranchu wrote: »
    Good to see something finally go in there. I'd say there's quite a bit of work to be done on it over the summer.

    My cousin was living in it up to a few months ago. there was about 20 people renting rooms iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    conorhal wrote: »
    Well it's been more like a 20yr campaign to get a Gaelcholáiste for the area. I'm pleased to see that the building will be a school again rather then a clutter of apartments built by a shady developer.

    What about an above board developer. Would that have been ok?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    My cousin was living in it up to a few months ago. there was about 20 people renting rooms iirc.

    Really? The front green was totally overgrown and the place look deserted last time I was out that way. Good while ago now though I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭That username is already in use.


    conorhal wrote: »
    It's mildly amusing that a language which was derided for centuries as being the language of ignorant pesants is now so suddenly being derided as the language of elitists....

    It's a last resort tactic of the anti-Irish brigade: "If all else fails, accuse them of elitism!"

    They've gone full circle :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Ranchu wrote: »
    Really? The front green was totally overgrown and the place look deserted last time I was out that way. Good while ago now though I suppose.

    Yeah, it was about 18 moths to 2 years ago at this stage that I was moving stuff in for her.

    It was a management company renting it for cheap to keep it occupied or somesuch. Might have been a stipulation of insurance or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Nice to see them use such a beautiful building for something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Never understood why that doesn't get mentioned more in these discussions. I've nothing against the language or anything but that allowance of extra points puts others at an unfair disadvantage. Someone could miss out on a place in college just because someone else decided to do it in a different language. Doesn't seem right.

    It is a tiny difference and open to all to attempt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭Cakes.


    Never understood why that doesn't get mentioned more in these discussions. I've nothing against the language or anything but that allowance of extra points puts others at an unfair disadvantage. Someone could miss out on a place in college just because someone else decided to do it in a different language. Doesn't seem right.

    Then you must find the plans to award points to athletes equally as wrong too? Or the bonus points for Higher Maths?


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