One of Dublin's most architecturally significant buildings to open as a Gaelcholáiste

That username is already in use. · 07-03-2014 02:25PM #1

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/loreto-abbey-to-open-doors-to-irish-language-post-primary-1.1713595

Sold for €17.7m in 1999 and bought from NAMA for €2.3m, Rathfarnam's Loreto Abbey, which dates back to the 18th century, is to house Gaelcholáiste an Phiarsaigh, the first all-Irish secondary school to be established in south Dublin since Tallaght’s Coláiste de hÍde was founded in 1993.

The huge growth in demand for Irish language schooling has intensified the need for Irish language post-primary schools to accommodate the numerous Gaelscoileanna that have sprung up across Dublin city and county in recent years.

After campaigning for 10 years for a site to house an Irish language post-primary school in the area, parents were told in January that the Department of Education had identified a permanent location suitable for the school.

“There has been a clear demand for a Gaelcholáiste in this area for a long time and this can be seen in the level of demand for places in Coláiste Eoin and Íosagáin. We hope the new school will cater for the need that is there at the moment and that we will see in the future."

http://www.gaelcholaiste.com/

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-03-2014 02:28PM

what's the angle here?

sillyoulfool · 07-03-2014 02:28PM

That username is already in use. wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/loreto-abbey-to-open-doors-to-irish-language-post-primary-1.1713595

http://www.gaelcholaiste.com/

And????
You have a point or an opinion?

Tá se mahogany gaspipe.

Ranchu · 07-03-2014 02:30PM

Good to see something finally go in there. I'd say there's quite a bit of work to be done on it over the summer.

Rayne Wooney · 07-03-2014 02:31PM

Good to see them making use of such a lovely building and great to see such a demand for a gaelcholáiste

conorhal · 07-03-2014 02:33PM

Well it's been more like a 20yr campaign to get a Gaelcholáiste for the area. I'm pleased to see that the building will be a school again rather then a clutter of apartments built by a shady developer.

syklops · 07-03-2014 02:41PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

what's the angle here?

Wheres my NAMA joe? Wheres my NAMA?

Cienciano · 07-03-2014 02:44PM

Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be offended by this?

syklops · 07-03-2014 02:54PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be offended by this?

Probably hoping to ryle the anti-Irish language brigade.

Personally, I am against the compulsary teaching of Irish, but no-one is forced to go to a Gael Scoil(except by their parents perhaps). First and foremost a Gael Scoil is a school, and i would much rather see a culturally and architecturally significant building be used as a school than for the plush offices of a new quango, or sold to some shady developer so he can build appartments in a building which was never designed to house appartments.

spank_inferno · 07-03-2014 02:55PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to be offended by this?

I heard that the author of the piece had once kicked a puppy to death.

Also, is a racist.

.... That oughta' do it!

The Backwards Man · 07-03-2014 02:57PM

And now over to our weather studio for the. .er. .weather......

anncoates · 07-03-2014 03:04PM

If it's the building I think it is, it's good to hear it's being used for something, even better if it's for an educational purpose and will be architecturally preserved.

Don't see the issue with people opting to having their kids schooled in the language of the nation myself.

We thought about seedling our child to the local Gaelscoil- as we would have dearly liked him to grow up speaking the language properly - but we were put off by what we thought was essentially a mildly unpleasant interrogatory approach in assessing our suitability and stuff like the principal insisting on periodically addressing us in Irish when it was clear our grasp of the language was very rusty.

'I've often wondered since if the sudden popularity of Irish schools in part a reaction to the amount of foreign nationals that have came to Ireland and by extension, entered the school system.

syklops · 07-03-2014 03:08PM

anncoates wrote: »

'I've often wondered since if the sudden popularity of Irish schools in part a reaction to the amount of foreign nationals that have came to Ireland and by extension, entered the school system.

Controversial option alert!

everdead.ie · 07-03-2014 03:11PM

anncoates wrote: »

If it's the building I think it is, it's good to hear it's being used for something, even better if it's for an educational purpose and will be architecturally preserved.

Don't see the issue with people opting to having their kids schooled in the language of the nation myself.

We thought about seedling our child to the local Gaelscoil- as we would have dearly liked him to grow up speaking the language properly - but we were put off by what we thought was essentially a mildly unpleasant interrogatory approach in assessing our suitability and stuff like the principal insisting on periodically addressing us in Irish when it was clear our grasp of the language was very rusty.

'I've often wondered since if the sudden popularity of Irish schools in part a reaction to the amount of foreign nationals that have came to Ireland and by extension, entered the school system.

The Gaelscoils have become popular since the late 80's early 90's no inward migration during those days!

Both myself and my sister went to GaelScoils closest schools to us in reality but we live on the edge of the Gaeltacht anyway.

anncoates · 07-03-2014 03:11PM

syklops wrote: »

Controversial option alert!

Certainly wasn't intended as such.

syklops · 07-03-2014 03:19PM

anncoates wrote: »

Certainly wasn't intended as such.

I think few people intend for their opinion to be controversial.

anncoates · 07-03-2014 03:21PM

syklops wrote: »

I think few people intend for their opinion to be controversial.

Your optimism is touching.

Femme_Fatale · 07-03-2014 04:13PM

Coincidentally, someone said on the (latest) racism thread that they heard it is the case some parents are opting to send their kids to a gaelscoil because of less exposure to fardners.

syklops · 07-03-2014 04:21PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Coincidentally, someone said on the (latest) racism thread that they heard it is the case some parents are opting to send their kids to a gaelscoil because of less exposure to fardners.

I would reason that its less exposure to scumbags to be honest.

anncoates · 07-03-2014 04:25PM

syklops wrote: »

I would reason that its less exposure to scumbags to be honest.

It's funny that you would freely acknowledge that a school type is sufficiently homogeneous enough that people would choose it purely on basis of avoiding one portion of society but then completely deny that it might ever be chosen on different type of exclusionary basis.

conorhal · 07-03-2014 04:26PM

syklops wrote: »

I would reason that its less exposure to scumbags to be honest.

It's mildly amusing that a language which was derided for centuries as being the language of ignorant pesants is now so suddenly being derided as the language of elitists....

syklops · 07-03-2014 04:44PM

conorhal wrote: »

It's mildly amusing that a language which was derided for centuries as being the language of ignorant pesants is now so suddenly being derided as the language of elitists....

I wasn't deriding the language as being the language of elitists. Simply pointing out that places in Gael Scoils tend to be in short supply and the schools themselves don't put up with students disrupting people who want to learn, or want to be left alone. I went to a private school and it seemed to me that so long as the parents paid the fees the school was happy for little johnny to cause as much disruption as he was capable of.

MadsL · 07-03-2014 04:49PM

Historic building actually used?! Madness.

conorhal · 07-03-2014 04:56PM

syklops wrote: »

I wasn't deriding the language as being the language of elitists. Simply pointing out that places in Gael Scoils tend to be in short supply and the schools themselves don't put up with students disrupting people who want to learn, or want to be left alone. I went to a private school and it seemed to me that so long as the parents paid the fees the school was happy for little johnny to cause as much disruption as he was capable of.

Sorry, I wasn't accusing you of anything, just pointing out a fact that mildly amused me

Lapin · 07-03-2014 06:05PM

Looks like one of those threads where the OP dumps his load, then fucks off assuming we all give a all give a toss about the shít he left behind.

I reckon the vast majority of people on boards don't give a rat's arse about buildings in south county Dublin.

syklops · 07-03-2014 06:43PM

Lapin wrote: »

Looks like one of those threads where the OP dumps his load, then fucks off assuming we all give a all give a toss about the shít he left behind.

I reckon the vast majority of people on boards don't give a rat's arse about buildings in south county Dublin.

He'll be very disappointed when he revisits this thread over the weekend, when expecting 18 pages of RARARA, wheres my Nama Joe and Oh noes, the gailscoils are takin ur jerbs, he finds people aren't bothered or just don't care.

I feel for you OP, I really do.

Actually No. I don't.

My name is URL · 07-03-2014 06:56PM

Do students attending Gael Schools still get extra points for sitting their Leaving Cert in Irish?

Rayne Wooney · 07-03-2014 06:59PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Do students attending Gael Schools still get extra points for sitting their Leaving Cert in Irish?

http://www.examinations.ie/index.php?l=en&mc=ca&sc=im

Teyla Emmagan · 07-03-2014 07:00PM

Isn't that where they think poor Philip Cairns is buried?

Ranchu · 07-03-2014 07:03PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Isn't that where they think poor Philip Cairns is buried?

Most of the surrounding grounds have been turned into apartments over the last 15 years so it's unlikely that he's there.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-03-2014 07:05PM

syklops wrote: »

Wheres my NAMA joe? Wheres my NAMA?

Read that to the turn of chirpy chirpy cheep cheep

One of Dublin's most architecturally significant buildings to open as a Gaelcholáiste

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