It's blatant discrimination and nobody bats an eyelid!!

kjl

What am I talking about, extra legroom on aeroplanes. It's an absolute joke.

I am 6f5 and take about 50-100 flight a year and I am sick to death of all this book extra legroom crap. I normally fly aer lingus, but the odd time I have to get a ryanair flight and the fact of the matter is that I do not fit in the seats, my legs are constantly crushed. It's not just ryanair, most airlines do not take into account taller people.

If the person in front of me wants to lower their seat back it's even worse, my knees are either sticking into their back or nearly cut to pieces trying to squeeze them under the seat.

And the thing is, I am genetically tall, it's not like I drank George's marvelous medicine. So why should I have to pay extra to have a seat that actually fits me. I don't have to pay extra for longer trousers or anything else associated with my height so why legroom. I understand that it's a premium service for low cost airlines, but I think they should give it out for free to taller people.

If they are going to discriminate, they why not discriminate against fat people, I have to pay extra for every kilo overweight my bag is, so why don't they have to pay for every extra kilo overweight they are? Of course if they did do that there would be uproar but that is essentially why is happening to tall people and nobody cares.

In fairness to Aer Lingus, about 70% of the time I get on a plane they ask me if I want to sit in an emergency exit seat, but no other airline ever offers this to me.

And it's not cheap either, if a flight cost €50 and extra leg room is €10, that 20% I have to pay. The whole things cost me about and extra grand a year

I think it's time us tall people stood up for our rights, after all we are bigger than them.

GenieOz

Well maybe you should have listened when your mother told you not to be long!

BrokenArrows

The fact of the matter is that you are 7 inches taller than the average Irish male (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height). Just suck it up or pay for the extra space.

donegal__road

kjl wrote: »

What am I talking about, extra legroom on aeroplanes. It's an absolute joke.

I am 6f5 and take about 50-100 flight a year and I am sick to death of all this book extra legroom crap. I normally fly aer lingus, but the odd time I have to get a ryanair flight and the fact of the matter is that I do not fit in the seats, my legs are constantly crushed. It's not just ryanair, most airlines do not take into account taller people.

If the person in front of me wants to lower their seat back it's even worse, my knees are either sticking into their back or nearly cut to pieces trying to squeeze them under the seat.

And the thing is, I am genetically tall, it's not like I drank George's marvelous medicine. So why should I have to pay extra to have a seat that actually fits me. I don't have to pay extra for longer trousers or anything else associated with my height so why legroom. I understand that it's a premium service for low cost airlines, but I think they should give it out for free to taller people.

If they are going to discriminate, they why not discriminate against fat people, I have to pay extra for every kilo overweight my bag is, so why don't they have to pay for every extra kilo overweight they are? Of course if they did do that there would be uproar but that is essentially why is happening to tall people and nobody cares.

In fairness to Aer Lingus, about 70% of the time I get on a plane they ask me if I want to sit in an emergency exit seat, but no other airline ever offers this to me.

And it's not cheap either, if a flight cost €50 and extra leg room is €10, that 20% I have to pay. The whole things cost me about and extra grand a year

I think it's time us tall people stood up for our rights, after all we are bigger than them.

because they use the fat passengers as wing ballast.

kjl

BrokenArrows wrote: »

The fact of the matter is that you are 7 inches taller than the average Irish male (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height). Just suck it up or pay for the extra space.

Up to 1000 quid a year, seems a bit **** to me.

Balmed Out

You raise an interesting point, why are we subsidizing your long trousers. It's about time ye started paying yere way

kjl

Balmed Out wrote: »

You raise an interesting point, why are we subsidizing your long trousers. It's about time ye started paying yere way

Right, but it's not you who is getting the money, it's the airline.

Indestructable

I am 6ft 5 and have flown with both Ryanair and Aer Lingus many times, have to say not once was I ever offered an emergency exit seat with AL. I actually find it better to fly with Ryanair as the person in front hasn't the option of letting the seat back.

I have flown with AL and all to often the fella in front has let their seat back and my knees are up around my ears.

The Backwards Man

You're the reason we have high doorways and ceilings and shelves that no one can reach. You're the reason my dreams of a career as a point guard in the NBA were never realised

Shame on you OP, SHAME ON YOU!!!!!

kjl

kjl wrote: »

And it's not cheap either, if a flight cost €50 and extra leg room is €10, that 20% I have to pay. The whole things cost me about and extra grand a year

I think it's time us tall people stood up for our rights, after all we are bigger than them.

Hang on there Stretch. If you get stung for being tall, then I demand to be refunded for being small.

I don't need all that room for leg length I don't have, so why am I being charged for it?

Oh, don't tell me. I'm subsidising legroom for you average people. This is very unfair and I'm going to stand up for my rights.

It's not my fault if people think I'm still sitting down.

steveone

Where could one procure this magic medicine? I could be taller...

asteroth

Well on trains you have to pay extra for a first class ticket and this affords some added comfort like a bigger seat, quiet compartment, etc. Generally you are pretty much guaranteed a seat if you buy a first class ticket and anyone who is in first class and doesn't have the appropriate ticket is booted out.
If you want extra comfort on a plane you have to pay for it too.

Incidentally if you fly 100 times a year then I'm assuming it's for business. That being the case doesn't your company pay? What the fcuk do you care?
Of course if you have to pay then what can I say. Planes are designed for people of average proportions not freaks like you....just kidding

EyeSight

i think they shouldn't allow seats to be pushed back. it's so rude and annoying to the people behind you

urabell

kjl wrote: »

What am I talking about, extra legroom on aeroplanes. It's an absolute joke.

I am 6f5 and take about 50-100 flight a year and I am sick to death of all this book extra legroom crap. I normally fly aer lingus, but the odd time I have to get a ryanair flight and the fact of the matter is that I do not fit in the seats, my legs are constantly crushed. It's not just ryanair, most airlines do not take into account taller people.

If the person in front of me wants to lower their seat back it's even worse, my knees are either sticking into their back or nearly cut to pieces trying to squeeze them under the seat.

And the thing is, I am genetically tall, it's not like I drank George's marvelous medicine. So why should I have to pay extra to have a seat that actually fits me. I don't have to pay extra for longer trousers or anything else associated with my height so why legroom. I understand that it's a premium service for low cost airlines, but I think they should give it out for free to taller people.

If they are going to discriminate, they why not discriminate against fat people, I have to pay extra for every kilo overweight my bag is, so why don't they have to pay for every extra kilo overweight they are? Of course if they did do that there would be uproar but that is essentially why is happening to tall people and nobody cares.

In fairness to Aer Lingus, about 70% of the time I get on a plane they ask me if I want to sit in an emergency exit seat, but no other airline ever offers this to me.

And it's not cheap either, if a flight cost €50 and extra leg room is €10, that 20% I have to pay. The whole things cost me about and extra grand a year

I think it's time us tall people stood up for our rights, after all we are bigger than them.

Because being fat is everyone else's fault but there's and you being tall is a choice

Smithwicks Man

Bus Eireann are equally as bad. They basically sacrificed the comfort of every single passenger just so that they could cram in an extra couple of seats on each side. Disgraceful.

EyeSight

EyeSight wrote: »

i think they shouldn't allow seats to be pushed back. it's so rude and annoying to the people behind you

It's hard to object to someone putting their seat back on a long haul flight. It might make the difference between some sleep and none.

The issue is the airline not allowing enough space, not reclining your seats just enables them to rob more of it off you if they can claim people don't use it.

I wonder if the coffin ships of the famine era had more space per passenger than a modern budget airline?

kjl

asteroth wrote: »

Well on trains you have to pay extra for a first class ticket and this affords some added comfort like a bigger seat, quiet compartment, etc. Generally you are pretty much guaranteed a seat if you buy a first class ticket and anyone who is in first class and doesn't have the appropriate ticket is booted out.
If you want extra comfort on a plane you have to pay for it too.

Incidentally if you fly 100 times a year then I'm assuming it's for business. That being the case doesn't your company pay? What the fcuk do you care?
Of course if you have to pay then what can I say. Planes are designed for people of average proportions not freaks like you....just kidding

yeah, it's a good point, but company doesn't pay for extras, I slip them in anyway and using gold circle you can upgrade seat too.

WilyCoyote

Indestructable wrote: »

I am 6ft 5 and have flown with both Ryanair and Aer Lingus many times, have to say not once was I ever offered an emergency exit seat with AL. I actually find it better to fly with Ryanair as the person in front hasn't the option of letting the seat back.

I have flown with AL and all to often the fella in front has let their seat back and my knees are up around my ears.

I fly Boston - Dublin once a year and I pay $40 extra per emergency exit seat. Well worth it for the auld stretch.
But I request it. Years ago the charge did not apply

Wacker The Attacker

Have a ****

cruais

EyeSight wrote: »

i think they shouldn't allow seats to be pushed back. it's so rude and annoying to the people behind you

Just recline your seat

fineso.mom

kjl wrote: »

What am I talking about, extra legroom on aeroplanes. It's an absolute joke.

I am 6f5 and take about 50-100 flight a year and I am sick to death of all this book extra legroom crap.

And the thing is, I am genetically tall, it's not like I drank George's marvelous medicine. So why should I have to pay extra to have a seat that actually fits me.

And it's not cheap either, if a flight cost €50 and extra leg room is €10, that 20% I have to pay. The whole things cost me about and extra grand a year

You're dead right OP, that's bad form. They are charging you an arm and a leg for more room......it could be worse though, they could be charging you for both legs.

Adamantium

Crimea River

Sir Gallagher

cruais wrote: »

Just recline your seat

Its some pain in the hole when you're ten minutes up in the air and the cnut in front of you decides to push their seat the whole way back, i mean for fcuksake surely you can sit upright in a seat for at least a poxy hour with having to recline back and get all up in my sh1t.

Usually i ease my way into the reclining process when up in the air a few hours and need a kip, its nice to be nice, early recliners though..scum of the earth, you'd almost wish the plane would crash so it'd kill them.

FISMA

kjl wrote: »

I am 6f5 and take about 50-100 flight a year

With that amount of travel you are either independently wealthy or do a lot of travel for work.

Have you asked your business to pay the extra cost? Do you not get skymiles? With that amount of travel, couldn't you use miles for the upgrade?

Skill Magill

Sit up the front, problem solved!











May never have flown before

kumate_champ07

BS

kumate_champ07

no way you can get 50euro flights if your flying every week, they have to be booked in advance during a promotion. if you're traveling that often your job would be paying for business class

MadsL

Yeah, well I can't see shit when you are in front of me at a gig so it evens out ya tall fecker...

efb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryDOy3AosBw

I'm 5'8" #tallworldproblems :pac:

Toots

I thought they did penailse fat people? Isn't there some rule about if you're too fat you have to pay for an extra seat? Or is that just in the states?

lau1247

Toots* wrote: »

I thought they did penailse fat people? Isn't there some rule about if you're too fat you have to pay for an extra seat? Or is that just in the states?

Probably, but if the person is obese to the size of taking up two seats then i'd think the said person would have to pay

Cork selfbuild

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

if you're traveling that often your job would be paying for business class

Not true in my case... only if a flight is a certain number of hours then upgrade, short flights, no.

Penny Tration

The Backwards Man wrote: »

You're the reason we have high doorways and ceilings and shelves that no one can reach. You're the reason my dreams of a career as a point guard in the NBA were never realised

Shame on you OP, SHAME ON YOU!!!!!

:pac: Just spat coffee on my screen because of that.

shopaholic01

It's worse when you have to sit beside a tall person, knees and elbows everywhere. :mad:

ZeitgeistGlee

kjl wrote: »

If they are going to discriminate, they why not discriminate against fat people, I have to pay extra for every kilo overweight my bag is, so why don't they have to pay for every extra kilo overweight they are? Of course if they did do that there would be uproar but that is essentially why is happening to tall people and nobody cares.

Just to point out mate, you do realise if airlines set a weight limit (which would presumably be based around the weight of an average person) you'd likely be over it and be paying extra anyway?

Napper Hawkins

A white male who gets to be 6'5 is asking for sympathy.

Nah.

kjl

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

no way you can get 50euro flights if your flying every week, they have to be booked in advance during a promotion. if you're traveling that often your job would be paying for business class

Right, what business class are you talking about?? Dublin to UK only has a few options and I am not going to start flying BA.

Flight can easily be €50, one way not including tax. I tend to select the front seat as it has more room than the emergency exit and with my gold if I don't book I can select it upon arrival.

I am not just talking about me, my initial point was about is being discriminating. Not about what I have to endure. My point still stands for Ryanair flights and most long haul flights which I have to take occasionally.

dinnyirwin

Im 6ft 5 and have no problem with seats on planes.
If someone puts their seat back i think its more uncomfortable on them than it is on me. I prefer Ryanair though.
I suppose all my life ive figured out how to make myself comfortable if the space is cramped. The only place i have a problem sitting is in a bulkhead row. I just cant sit there.

Paddy Cow

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Its some pain in the hole when you're ten minutes up in the air and the cnut in front of you decides to push their seat the whole way back, i mean for fcuksake surely you can sit upright in a seat for at least a poxy hour with having to recline back and get all up in my sh1t.

Usually i ease my way into the reclining process when up in the air a few hours and need a kip, its nice to be nice, early recliners though..scum of the earth, you'd almost wish the plane would crash so it'd kill them.

Some guy got the hump with me when I asked him to put forward his seat when we were being served the meal. FFS he had the seat reclined for the whole nine hour flight. I don't think I was being unreasonable asking him to adjust it for the fifteen minutes it took to eat :rolleyes:

SamAK

OP maybe you should have an auld chat with someone who designs planes and then have a chat with an economist. Might make things a bit clearer..

Surely running a business (such as an air line) is about forecasting who your target market is going to be and then designing the product around the average paying consumer....essentialy building planes to suit overall averages rather than exceptions to the rule such as your long-legged self? Bigger planes = more expensive outright = more fuel burned = more cost....etcetera.

Candie wrote: »

Hang on there Stretch. If you get stung for being tall, then I demand to be refunded for being small.

Oh, don't tell me. I'm subsidising legroom for you average people. This is very unfair and I'm going to stand up for my rights.

Haw haw haw haw.

pajor

Hooray for being 5"8! (I know it's not that short.. but still)

Mint Sauce

I fly AL 2-3 return flights every year, and have got an exit seat on everyflight bar maybe 2 or 3 over the years.

No charge when you pick your seats at the airport.

fundi

fly Ryanair, they have an extra inch of legroom compared to Aer Lingus.

Stavros Murphy

I'm a shade over 6'4", I fly a fair lot and have never once either booked "extra legroom" whatever that is, nor felt crushed in the seat either. I've size 12 feet so I'm no little flower either. If the person in front reclined their seat onto me, I'd ask them firmly to recline it da fuq back forward, simple as. Very often, the air-staffies ask me to sit in the emergency exit seats anyway as I probably look well able to rip it off it's hinges if Al' quaeda or mechanical gremlins necessitate a fast getaway. I believe the phrase you're looking for OP, is "Harden the fcuk up".

Badly Drunk Boy

I'm 6'5" too but thankfully, I don't have to fly very often. Actually, I'd probably fly more if it wasn't for the discomfort of travelling.

I flew to Bratislava last September with Ryanair, and on the flight out, I had a normal aisle seat. After making various efforts to get comfortable, I eventually was okay...until people started to head to the toilets, which meant I had to get out of my 'comfortable' position every time somebody went by because one of my legs was out on the aisle.

An air-steward eventually offered me an exit seat, but I think it was for safety reasons rather than making things more comfortable for me.

kjl

fundi wrote: »

fly Ryanair, they have an extra inch of legroom compared to Aer Lingus.

yeah, you are grand thanks.

Capt'n Midnight

All the surveys show that tall people earn more and are generally more successful in life so they can afford to pay more.

MOH

Ryanair still have reclining seats?!

Capt'n Midnight

MOH wrote: »

Ryanair still have reclining seats?!

oh yeah, just pop €2 in the slot and back you go.

jam_mac_jam

Oh really, so what.

I am 5 foot two and spend my life not being able to reach things or fit into things like exercise machines or have to have the car seat right up and still feel too small or have tall people pat us on the head or take up all the room on public transport because you are small you don't need any room. Can we not have some small advantage...

Galwayguy35

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

All the surveys show that tall people earn more and are generally more successful in life so they can afford to pay more.

Michael D might dispute that fact considering he is on about 250 k a year, although leg room on the plane wouldn't be a problem for him.