Raw Monday March 3rd

Vinz Mesrine

www.bleacherreport.com/articles/1976031-wwe-will-face-most-hostile-audience-yet-in-chicago-on-monday-night-raw

www.twitter.com/ChicagoRAWcrowd

This is going to be absolutely incredible and personally, I can't wait to see the wwe get exactly what it deserves. The only thing that would make it better is if Raw next week was in MSG.

Lord TSC

Nody

Execpt the mark out will be total when Punk (unannounced) come through the crowd and beats up Orton and/or Bootista for a triple threat at WM set up.

grames_bond

Batista should cement his heel turn at this - by doing an HBK/Montreal type promo on it

Cut to 7 minutes

Nody

grames_bond wrote: »

Batista should cement his heel turn at this - by doing an HBK/Montreal type promo on it

Except I highly doubt Batista has the personality and mic skill to pull something even close to that off

Excluding Punk returning their best bet would be Bryan kicking the crap out of auhtority to try to swing the audience but I highly doubt they will bother.

grames_bond

Nody wrote: »

Except I highly doubt Batista has the personality and mic skill to pull something even close off

he wouldnt need to, have him in the ring with his spotlight and just have him say "boo me? I am better than all of you and if you...."

*cult of personality blares*

song goes on for too long....fades out.....spotlight on again....

"you're all sheep, I control you, I am better than everyone here and I will prove it at WrestleMania, whether you idiots like it or not"

BOOM - INSTA-HEAT!

hufpc8w3adnk65

Yup it's looking more likely that DB won't be in the title pic and too be honest lads even if punk is added I can't see my self buying mania for DB V HHH, Lesner V Taker and Orton Punk & Bootista. First time I can ever member not ordering live!

Nody

grames_bond wrote: »

he wouldnt need to, have him in the ring with his spotlight and just have him say "boo me? I am better than all of you and if you...."

*cult of personality blares*

song goes on for too long....fades out.....spotlight on again....

"you're all sheep, I control you, I am better than everyone here and I will prove it at WrestleMania, whether you idiots like it or not"

BOOM - INSTA-HEAT!

Except that's not heat on him; that's heat on WWE and he has not played the audience in the way Michael played the audience like a harp putting all the hate on himself...

Loughc

Nody wrote: »

Execpt the mark out will be total when Punk (unannounced) come through the crowd and beats up Orton and/or Bootista for a triple threat at WM set up.

That's a nice dream. It needed more AJ Lee tho!

Nody

Loughc wrote: »

That's a nice dream. It needed more AJ Lee tho!

I try to keep my dreams seperate; AJ was busy with other tasks at the time but to comply with the request she'll host a diva swimming costume / bubble bath battle royal for 30 min :P

A Primal Nut

grames_bond wrote: »

Batista should cement his heel turn at this - by doing an HBK/Montreal type promo on it

Cut to 7 minutes

That would be amazing. The best thing WWE can do is play with it, get a bit of heat out it. Could also have Triple H saying he fired Punk, Bad News Barrett telling the crowd Punk isn't gonna be there. If they acknowledge Punk, it would make the crowd feel less rebellious, as it would feel like WWE want them to cheer for him. The fact that WWE are ignoring him is what makes the crowd cheer his name more than anything.

Honestly though, if WWE don't care about the crowd sh*tting all over Batista-Orton, the main event of one of the most important shows they will ever do, I don't see why they would care about the crowd reaction on one episode of RAW that will be forgotten about in a couple of weeks.

Dubliner28

What are the actual chances of Punk showing up Monday night? I cannot wait to hear the crowd at the start of this.. Roll on Monday night

gnfnrhead

If they have any sense they will open with Bryan and give him a lot of time to talk. Fans wont be chanting for Punk when Bryan is out there. Follow with a Cesaro match and post match promo, then something with the Shield or the Wyatts. Something with Lesnar/Undertaker, a long Bryan match, a long Shield six man. Keep Batista and Orton to a short backstage segment. Not sure which way to go with Cena.

They can really limit the opportunity to chant for Punk with a smart lay out. No Divas. AJ is the only one anybody cares about and that will obviously start the chants so it's best to give them the night off.

beakerjoe

gnfnrhead wrote: »

If they have any sense they will open with Bryan and give him a lot of time to talk. Fans wont be chanting for Punk when Bryan is out there. Follow with a Cesaro match and post match promo, then something with the Shield or the Wyatts. Something with Lesnar/Undertaker, a long Bryan match, a long Shield six man. Keep Batista and Orton to a short backstage segment. Not sure which way to go with Cena.

They can really limit the opportunity to chant for Punk with a smart lay out. No Divas. AJ is the only one anybody cares about and that will obviously start the chants so it's best to give them the night off.

Regarding these two Ive underlined, Id imagine keeping Cena off to sell the injury would solve that problem. In relation to Batista and Orton, if they limit this to a backstage segment it will further devalue their headline WM match unless its a big backstage angle (Stone cold being hit by a car, Dxs bus being blown up etc). That being said Ive no idea how one could make Batista and Orton worth watching at this stage. No matter what they do regarding just Orton and Big Dav, I cant see anyone caring about this match unless something changes.

krudler

grames_bond wrote: »

Batista should cement his heel turn at this - by doing an HBK/Montreal type promo on it

Cut to 7 minutes

One of the best pops ever, even if it was all for nothing

rossie1977

for those that haven't read

batista turned heel on sd

so chicago will be the perfect place for him to play a major role and get a ton of heat while doing it

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I can't wait to see the wwe get exactly what it deserves. The only thing that would make it better is if Raw next week was in MSG.

really depends on what way you look at it. wwe are getting a sold out show in a venue they played only 2 months ago and the most watched cable tv program this monday night by a country mile.

gnfnrhead

beakerjoe wrote: »

Regarding these two Ive underlined, Id imagine keeping Cena off to sell the injury would solve that problem. In relation to Batista and Orton, if they limit this to a backstage segment it will further devalue their headline WM match unless its a big backstage angle (Stone cold being hit by a car, Dxs bus being blown up etc). That being said Ive no idea how one could make Batista and Orton worth watching at this stage. No matter what they do regarding just Orton and Big Dav, I cant see anyone caring about this match unless something changes.

Anything with those two in ring will be hijacked. Keeping it backstage will limit that a lot.

rovert

Early tangible evidence that fans are buying tickets on the expectation of a Punk return:

--Curiosity over C.M. Punk possibly being at Raw on Monday has caused tickets on the resale market to go up. The prices had been weak in the sense you couldn't get more than face value for tickets, but now they are up $20 across the board. There were 387 tickets on the secondary market. (thanks to Mike Miazga)

Credit: F4WOnline

grames_bond

^^ that sound is WWE currently laughing their ass off!

WinnyThePoo

Be great if his music goes off.. wait 10-15 seconds and bad news Barrett comes out.

JP Liz V1

Maybe we will see DB Vs. DB main event this Raw for Bootista's Mania title shot

kksaints

A big long Triple H promo at the start of this is the best option. 30 mins of Triple H talking crap. Have the crowd wear themselves out by booing so much so that they're exhausted for the rest of it.:D:D:D

Seriously WWE will have a tough job to keep the crowd from dumping on this. Sending out Daniel Bryan at the start is something of a risk (It wont look good if the crowd ignore him) but is probably the best option.

J. Marston

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Be great if his music goes off.. wait 10-15 seconds and bad news Barrett comes out.

This needs to happen.

Moneymaker

I like how everyone mentions everything we said they should do from the podcast.

It's almost as if someone of you actually listened to it. :pac::pac:

gnfnrhead

kksaints wrote: »

Seriously WWE will have a tough job to keep the crowd from dumping on this. Sending out Daniel Bryan at the start is something of a risk (It wont look good if the crowd ignore him) but is probably the best option.

If Bryan doesnt work, they may as well just send Batista and Hornswoggle out for the rest of the night as nothing else will work either.

kksaints

gnfnrhead wrote: »

If Bryan doesnt work, they may as well just send Batista and Hornswoggle out for the rest of the night as nothing else will work either.

WWE should put on a Bryan vs Cesaro match. It would be fascinating to see how the fans would react to that.

gnfnrhead

kksaints wrote: »

WWE should put on a Bryan vs Cesaro match. It would be fascinating to see how the fans would react to that.

Problem is they need the two of them seperate to use up more time. Putting them against each other leaves a hole that will be filled with Punk chants.

Unless they let them go for an hour or something, but I cant see that happening.

kksaints

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Problem is they need the two of them seperate to use up more time. Putting them against each other leaves a hole that will be filled with Punk chants.

Unless they let them go for an hour or something, but I cant see that happening.

60 minute ironman match fits the bill.:D

gnfnrhead

kksaints wrote: »

60 minute ironman match fits the bill.:D

If only!

Bryan promo to open, interrupted by Cesaro and Zeb, challenge made ~20 minutes.
Commercial ~3 minutes.
Ziggler vs some randomer ~5 minutes.
Shield promo ~2 minutes.
Commercial ~3 minutes.
Bryan vs Cesaro confirmed, Batista backstage segment ~2 minutes.
Christian vs some randomer ~10 minutes.
Sheamus/Christian stuff ~2 minutes.
Wyatts promo ~2 minutes.
Commercial ~3 minutes.
Sandow vs Cody? ~10 minutes.
Commercial ~3 minutes.
WWE Network!!!!!! ~2 minutes.
Bryan vs Cesaro with probably about 30 commercials knowing Raw ~65 minutes.
Post match with Triple H ~3 minutes.
Commercial ~3 minutes.
Orton backstage segment ~2 minutes.
Cena update ~1 minute.
Main event hype ~1 minute.
Commercial ~3 minutes.
Six man tag ~30 minutes.
Show ending brawl

That leaves about 10 minutes by my count. Throw the Uso's in there somewhere and that should be that. Christian's match would be the only real chance for a Punk take over and that would depend on who he faced.

Knowing WWE, they'll open with Cena, give Orton and Batista about 20 minutes in the ring, give Triple H about the same etc.

Lithium93_

Definitely goin to stay awake for RAW on Tuesday morning.

Hashtag_HEEL

Saw this and thought it was pretty funny:

gnfnrhead

Expect another squash of Dolph: https://twitter.com/HEELZiggler/status/439651227089907712

Lord TSC

You know, if they took Ziggler, Miz (who was moaning on screen) and Punk, they could create a worse stable of faces who want to fight the "Older" guys. Even throw in Punk. Try and make a modern day DX-style rebellion group...

ricero

people are forgeting that brooooccckkk lesnar and old man taker are scheduled to appear. no way the crowd is ****ting over taker or lesnar

ShagNastii

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Expect another squash of Dolph: https://twitter.com/HEELZiggler/status/439651227089907712

It's like the Ryder situation. It must be so down heartening for the likes of Ziggler. The guys busts his balls and gets little more than a slap in the face from WWE.

ricero

ShagNastii wrote: »

It's like the Ryder situation. It must be so down heartening for the likes of Ziggler. The guys busts his balls and gets little more than a slap in the face from WWE.

hes just aint profitable unfortunately

Loughc

ricero wrote: »

hes just aint profitable unfortunately

Vince is that you?

He was red hot when he won the world title. He prob shouldn't have ran his mouth like he did but WWE completely killed his momentum.

A Primal Nut

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Expect another squash of Dolph: https://twitter.com/HEELZiggler/status/439651227089907712

Fair play to him, he's got some testicular fortitude. It shows that he really has courage and badass-ness to stand up to the authorities something, that is downplayed on screen. The fact he is willing to sacrifice his career to make these comments show how passionate he is, but unfortunately WWE is all about comformity these days.

Also it's strange that WWE edited it out - I thought the consensus was that Batista was Heel and Ziggler was face?

Lithium93_

I'd say we can use this thread to discuss Monday's Raw, anyways according to PWTORCH.COM, The Undertaker is scheduled for an appearance on Monday's Raw live from Chicago, Brock Lesnar will also be there.

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_76719.shtml#.UxJ-h-N_szI

Jester252

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

You know, if they took Ziggler, Miz (who was moaning on screen) and Punk, they could create a worse stable of faces who want to fight the "Older" guys. Even throw in Punk. Try and make a modern day DX-style rebellion group...

What about Ryder?

Scruffy19

Seen a twitter page about hijacking this monday nights raw. Theres alot of tweets for #hijackraw. I would love it if punk bought a ticket and sat in the front row through out the whole show, but cant see it happening..

Vinz Mesrine

Scruffy19 wrote: »

Seen a twitter page about hijacking this monday nights raw. Theres alot of tweets for #hijackraw. I would love it if punk bought a ticket and sat in the front row through out the whole show, but cant see it happening..

That would be incredible

deano546

Meltzer says Punk will probably be back Monday night.

Loughc

deano546 wrote: »

Meltzer says Punk will probably be back Monday night.

Hardly breaking news we've all speculated that since he left and Meltzer said himself there's a chance he would.

That's like me saying every week there's a chance Bryan will win the WWE Title this week and when he doesn't I can say I only said there was a chance.

Lithium93_

IF

CM Punk does come back Monday Night,

i'll stay up to watch Raw to believe it, anything that's said on the internet, especially wrestling dirt sheets ((though they can usually be right) must be taken with a grain of salt.

Agent Coulson

ShagNastii wrote: »

It's like the Ryder situation. It must be so down heartening for the likes of Ziggler. The guys busts his balls and gets little more than a slap in the face from WWE.

The thing is in the 15 years ago they could have jumped ship to WCW and reinvented themselves for a year or two and if that didn't work out jump back to WWE.

Now that the WWE is the only game in town all the mid card talent are going to struggle and become bland and the crowd won't care. This is the reason all the part timers are coming back as the get crowd reactions then go away for 5/6 months or longer before coming back fresh. They are not been seen week in week out losing.

Ziggler/Miz/Kofi/Del Rio/Swagger etc will all struggle ever to become top guys for any lenght of time.

DM_7

Some people have no chance of being top guy. That is okay.

What is stupid is consistently making people look worthless or an easy victory for a top guy. It takes away any impact and even any chance of them earning cash for WWE.

Take Kofi, a high flyer, colourful, Kids always react to him. Can go weeks and weeks without being seen and then just get beaten by Del Rio. He is never in a storyline, never put in a position to add value. Ziggler is now in a similar position. Its stupid as fans stop caring, talent become demoralised and wwe have no actual worth from them.

They should be using the talent below top level in a better way.

Moneymaker

How often is Meltzer right about stuff like that?

It should be a fascinating show regardless of what happens.

Lord TSC

DM-ICE wrote: »

What is stupid is consistently making people look worthless or an easy victory for a top guy. It takes away any impact and even any chance of them earning cash for WWE.

What's worse is how they'll then give these guys a push for two or three weeks, the crowd won't believe it, won't cheer and then WWE goes "Ah well, we tried".

To continue your Kofi example, he gets a mini-push every 2 years. Nothing ever comes of it, so when the next one happens, no one cares and no one bothers to get excited

Vinz Mesrine

For the first time in years, I will be staying up to watch raw live.

I hope Jesse brings Badger and Skinny Pete with him!