WrestleMania 30 Pre Show Thread *Spoilers*

JP Liz V1

So Hulk will host the show and two matches so far announced


Brock Lesnar Vs. The Undertaker


WWE World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton faces RR winner Batista


And also likely on the card


John Cena Vs. Bray Wyatt or The Wyatts


Rollins Vs. Ambrose Vs. Reigns


HHH Vs. Daniel Bryan

I could see a Cesaro Vs Swagger match being added.

JP Liz V1

Wasn't there talk of a match between the Rhodes brothers at Mania at one time?

Professional Griefer

Usos NAO likely as well

ShagNastii

I see it's being talked about on the Raw thread. Personally I have big fears that Lesner/Taker is going to be a stinker. When they went as it before the match were top notch. The Hell in a Cell they had was one of the finest.

Where my arse clinching comes from is Takers newly found hard on for all things MMA. I'm worried they won't just good out and have a stellar match with Brock being a total destroyer. The chances of a crappy quasi MMA bout are high I'd say.

JP Liz V1

ShagNastii wrote: »

I see it's being talked about on the Raw thread. Personally I have big fears that Lesner/Taker is going to be a stinker. When they went as it before the match were top notch. The Hell in a Cell they had was one of the finest.

Where my arse clinching comes from is Takers newly found hard on for all things MMA. I'm worried they won't just good out and have a stellar match with Brock being a total destroyer. The chances of a crappy quasi MMA bout are high I'd say.

Tbh I have no interest in Taker Vs. Lesnar

gnfnrhead

I expect:

Cena vs Wyatt
Bryan vs Triple H
Sheamus vs Christian
MAO vs Usos
AJ vs Naomi
Some form of Reigns vs Ambrose vs Rollins

Pre show match will be a battle royal with everyone else.

Deleted User wrote: »

I could see a Cesaro Vs Swagger match being added.

I really hope not. It would be a shame to have them split so soon. No reason they cant be an alliance of singles wrestlers who team from time to time.

Degag

ShagNastii wrote: »

I see it's being talked about on the Raw thread. Personally I have big fears that Lesner/Taker is going to be a stinker. When they went as it before the match were top notch. The Hell in a Cell they had was one of the finest.

Where my arse clinching comes from is Takers newly found hard on for all things MMA. I'm worried they won't just good out and have a stellar match with Brock being a total destroyer. The chances of a crappy quasi MMA bout are high I'd say.

It's not new. He's been into it for years.

It's an obvious choice and I think it will be a good match but not as much an obvious choice as Taker vs Cena. That was the biggest money match that they could book, yet didn't for some reason unknown to me

Loughc

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I expect:

Sheamus vs Christian

A rematch from Raw?

JP Liz V1

Any chance Jericho will be back?

Furious-Red

Loughc wrote: »

A rematch from Raw?

And Smackdown

Qs

Wrestlemania 30 needs a big high spots match. A Money in the bank or TLC tag (or 3 man tag). The lack of spectacle in recent years has let it down and this card is already looking lacklustre.

gnfnrhead

Loughc wrote: »

A rematch from Raw?

Yep. Dont see why they would be feuding with each other and only each other if it isnt leading to another match.

krudler

Qs wrote: »

Wrestlemania 30 needs a big high spots match. A Money in the bank or TLC tag (or 3 man tag). The lack of spectacle in recent years has let it down and this card is already looking lacklustre.

Agree, MITB was always a good high spots match and then you had matches like Taker/HHH in the cell where the cell was barely used and mostly pointless.

JP Liz V1

Yes bring back MITB and have the winner cash in that night at WM

gnfnrhead

MITB is a successful standalone PPV. No way will they move it back to Wrestlemania which doesnt need it.

JrdanB

I'm interested in Taker/Lesnar for the sole reason that Lesnar might just up and decide to shoot on him.

JP Liz V1

gnfnrhead wrote: »

MITB is a successful standalone PPV. No way will they move it back to Wrestlemania which doesnt need it.

This year's WM could do with it and there is only 1 world title now

rossie1977

mitb at mania would just end up a bunch of midcard guys and jobbers given cena, bryan, punk, wyatts, orton, sheamus, shield are already pre-occupied with other things.

mania has 5 matches pretty much set in stone which only leaves another 3 matches to book (last 3 manias have had 8 matches).

Omackeral

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I could see a Cesaro Vs Swagger match being added.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cesaro vs Swagger vs Big E for the IC Title. Nice mesh of styles and you have a heel vs a face vs a tweener. Could be cool and gives the Intercontinental belt an outing at Mania.

Loughc

Omackeral wrote: »

I wouldn't mind seeing Cesaro vs Swagger vs Big E for the IC Title. Nice mesh of styles and you have a heel vs a face vs a tweener. Could be cool.

I really like the sound of this. Hopefully it happens and not on the pre show!

J. Marston

They won't have an MITB match but maybe something like a fatal four way ladder match for the IC/US title (unify them even!) would be cool.

Surely they have to add Sheamus/Cesaro, to counterbalance Batista/ Orton.

Bounty Hunter

J. Marston wrote: »

They won't have an MITB match but maybe something like a fatal four way ladder match for the IC/US title (unify them even!) would be cool.

With regards those titles:

I hope Ambrose drops the US title in the coming weeks and I hope Cesaro is not in an IC title match unless it is at the very least a triple threat (so he doesent have to be the one to be pinned).

Reigns / Cesaro should not lose but should not get either of those titles as imo that would be the worst thing possible very their pushes which the WWE have been handling well in general

Andy_rse

With them seemingly hell bent on Batista vs Orton, it would be cool if Bryan comes out after the match and kickds the hell out of them both, then gets a title match at Rawmania and wins.

They get to end Mania with a huge yes chant and give him the belt in front of a rabid crowd the next night.

[\dream]

Megager

I think creative have set up a batista heel character on purpose. I reckon itll be booked so initially the crowd are programmed to boo both batista and orton but orton will wrestle as a face...crowd will sympathise..start cheering for randy and he loses. That allows a double turn and other ppv match. Orton is a great in ring talent and is capable of carrying batista i think. Meanwhile bryan getting over hhh will give him his shot and win over batista at summerslam.
Thats how id book it anyway.

Whosthis

Will Snooki get a title shot? Keep the streak alive. 1-0.

Nody

Megager wrote: »

I think creative have set up a batista heel character on purpose. I reckon itll be booked so initially the crowd are programmed to boo both batista and orton but orton will wrestle as a face...crowd will sympathise..start cheering for randy and he loses. That allows a double turn and other ppv match. Orton is a great in ring talent and is capable of carrying batista i think. Meanwhile bryan getting over hhh will give him his shot and win over batista at summerslam.
Thats how id book it anyway.

No; the crowd will be booing the whole thing from start to finish with "boring" and "We want Bryan" chants more likely seeing as Orton as a face is slightly less interesting then a wet paper bag...

rovert

The Figure 4 Weekly gives our first glimpse of what could the undercard

Matches that have been pitched but not yet solidified are Big E vs. Dean Ambrose to unify the secondary titles; Luke Harper & Erick Rowan vs. Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns; Sheamus vs. Christian; Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust; and some kind of NXT match on the main card.

Sounds very solid from a workrate POV but not really that juicy.

gnfnrhead

I have a hard time seeing Big E vs Ambrose. They have done nothing with each other in months, now they are going to be thrown into a Unification bout just because?

Also hope there is no NXT match. Tonnes of guys on the main roster wont be getting a spot, why give one to development guys that the majority wont know? The deafening silence for your man at the Rumble should be all the evidence that they needed. Who's going to get a better response, Dolph Ziggler or Bo Dallas?

DM_7

At Mania which will have plenty of knowledgeable fans, I think Sami Zayn v Neville would be fine. Many casuals will know them with launch of the network and the social media attention they got recently. Also coukd feature on RAW and smackdown before mania itself. Also the action they could get into a match would grab attention.

Sheamus v Christian would be more likely to to be a yawn fest.

Reigns stuck in a tag match would be a real waste.

Ambrose v Big E sounds like something destined for the pre show.

A Primal Nut

Cody Rhodes vs Goldust would be cool but if that was the plan I would have expected them to start building for it with a big turn already. That said there are still five RAWs left before WrestleMania but they'd want to get a move on. Could be an excellent feud if they get enough time.

Rjd2

DM-ICE wrote: »

At Mania which will have plenty of knowledgeable fans, I think Sami Zayn v Neville would be fine. Many casuals will know them with launch of the network and the social media attention they got recently. Also coukd feature on RAW and smackdown before mania itself. Also the action they could get into a match would grab attention.

Sheamus v Christian would be more likely to to be a yawn fest.

Reigns stuck in a tag match would be a real waste.

Ambrose v Big E sounds like something destined for the pre show.

I'd agree with that, would say the NXT match would need to be short to be on safe side. Cody v Golddust would be good but I think it may be a bit rushed if they were to do it for Mania. Lets not forget the E does not shut down after Mania so why not take time with it and have it for Extreme Rules or one of the summer PPVS?

Bounty Hunter

They may have been pitched but how recently it doesn't say as I am sure they have pitched Goldust vs Cody and could easily do it justice build wise in the next 5 weeks considering they have 3 hour Raws and SDs to fill but it feels they have been moving away from that and more towards The real Americans splitting and potentially feuding instead in recent weeks and I hope they don't do both considering we have already had the PTPs split and feud and The Shield seem a distinct possibility despite them being seemingly together in these pitched matches.

If Sheamus vs Christian was to happen it would have to be pre-show for me as despite being a fan of both guys it gets a big old meh from me and not just cos its happened twice in the past 2 weeks already iirc. Having said that it could be a good match andfor the pre-show things could be worse.

I dont't think Big E vs Ambrose would be on the preshow simply because it would give both the midcard titles a place on mania proper and as a unification bout it could be easily promoted but they arent building towards that atm and you would have to think that the Ambrose / Reigns / shield in general issues are leading somewhere having been building for quite some time now and the logical place for them to build to would be mania especially instead of them having Reigns in a tag match with the Wyatts minus Bray i.e a match that would only have 1 potential winner. Similarily they seem to be building to something more like a IC triple threat with Swagger (heel), Cesaro (Tweener) and Big E (face) at mania considering how big E has faced both Real Americans in the past two weeks in really good matches but not having any interaction with the shield guys.

krudler

Part of me kinda wants to see Orton v Batista purely for the crowd to utterly sh1t all over it

Omackeral

Posted by Bounty Hunter

I dont't think Big E vs Ambrose would be on the preshow simply because it would give both the midcard titles a place on mania proper and as a unification bout it could be easily promoted

I recall that the tag team titles were to be unified at WM25 and this was bumped to the pre show, so wouldn't be shocked!

Bounty Hunter

Omackeral wrote: »

Posted by Bounty Hunter



I recall that the tag team titles were to be unified at WM25 and this was bumped to the pre show, so wouldn't be shocked!

yeah but they literally gave 2 sh!ts about tag teams back then, *looks at how they have been booking the mid card titles recently* actually ignore this post.

Still think if they went for an IC/US unification and a match like Sheamus/Christian the latter would and should be the one on the pre-show though for the reasons I outlined above I think they may go another direction.

DM_7

I think a couple of matches so far damage the card balance and stop the show having a real intrigue or opportunity to offer fans some satisfaction.

Cena v Wyatt does make sense.

I don't think Brock v Taker has a real sense of wonder. Taker v Reigns with the Shield would be more interesting than the Brock match. Sure the match we are getting will be good but the complete lack of any doubt about the result hurts it. The way Reigns was pushed lately would create some doubt.

Orton v Batista is obviously the other match that hurts the card.

A suggested idea is below but plenty of other ways to mix the matches that would produce a more interesting card.

Brock could have been used more effectively by having him go against the authority and batter Orton.

Punk could have challenged heel Batista.

Bryan v HHH would sit better in that card.

Lots of other mixes could create more intrigue, Punk v Orton for title, Cena v Bryan 2, Batista v Wyatt, HHH v Reigns, Taker v Brock as current booking and so on.

JP Liz V1

Whosthis wrote: »

Will Snooki get a title shot? Keep the streak alive. 1-0.

I wonder will there by any celeb involvement this year

grames_bond

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I wonder will there by any celeb involvement this year

Depends how good Aaron Paul does tonight.....

Yeah! Wrestlemania Bitch!!

the groutch

can't believe we got through a whole page of a WM thread without this (would love to see a modern remake btw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSbyk0VReyo

Dubliner28

Another boring Mania to come me thinks.

JP Liz V1

So what will Hogan's big Mania announcement next week be?

gnfnrhead

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So what will Hogan's big Mania announcement next week be?

He'll be performing the National Anthem with Brooke :pac:

JP Liz V1

gnfnrhead wrote: »

He'll be performing the National Anthem with Brooke :pac:

I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted in her match for the title with AJ


Del Rio Vs. Ziggler could be the pre show

A Primal Nut

Everyone seems convived that it will be Taker vs Lesnar going on last but honestly Bryan vs HHH is the biggest match they have got. It's a storyline that has been brewing since Summerslam, and Bryan celebrating his victory at the end (assuming he wins) would be a great way for the PPV to end.

Taker only went on last in the past when a title, or Shawn Michaels career, was on the line. Really don't think its that big this time, although they have a few weeks to go.

It's true that the crowd does get tired after Taker's match, but once Bryan comes out and the yes chants start the crowd will be back into it again. If anything its more likely the crowd will be tired after cheering Bryan's win. There is also the unpredictability factor as there will always be the chance that Bryan will get screwed again.

I'd be shocked if they don't finish with that one.

Professional Griefer

''Am I ****ing going over?!''

JP Liz V1

D Bryan victorious with a huge yes chant should end this Mania but with Hogan involved as host I think it could be him and Cena posing after destroying the Wyatts

Loughc

Cena - Bray Wyatt will NOT Main Event WM. Not a hope. Hogan can have his moment at the start and mid-WM, ala his WM moment at WM21. He doesn't and shouldn't need to be the focus of the Main Event.

gnfnrhead

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

D Bryan victorious with a huge yes chant should end this Mania but with Hogan involved as host I think it could be him and Cena posing after destroying the Wyatts

I'd say he is more likely to help Bryan to try and steal the spotlight. Everyone else tries to steal so why wouldnt he?

JP Liz V1

Loughc wrote: »

Cena - Bray Wyatt will NOT Main Event WM. Not a hope. Hogan can have his moment at the start and mid-WM, ala his WM moment at WM21. He doesn't and shouldn't need to be the focus of the Main Event.

The Wyatt's might interfere no matter what the main event even perhaps to try and help HHH get the win over Bryan