can i hold the gun until?

sniperman

hi all,lately i was thinking of selling my .17 and going for a 223,so if i were to put up for sale the .17,can i hold on to it til it sells,or do i have to leave it into a firearms dealer?,the .17 licence expires 2015, also will i need to fill out a new application,and submit new written farmers permissions etc for a 223?thanks all for any advice;)

Cass

sniperman wrote: »

........ if i were to put up for sale the .17,can i hold on to it til it sells,or do i have to leave it into a firearms dealer?

You can hold onto it until the point where you submit an application to substitute/cancel it.

also will i need to fill out a new application,and submit new written farmers permissions etc for a 223?thanks all for any advice;)

If they don't let you do a sub then yes. It's a brand new application which means :

• Name
• Address
• New Gun details
• Doctor details
• Referees
• Permissions
• Membership details
• Photos
• etc, etc.

TriggerPL

Better question what cz have you and how much ?

sniperman

Cass wrote: »

You can hold onto it until the point where you submit an application to substitute/cancel it.


If they don't let you do a sub then yes. It's a brand new application which means :

• Name
• Address
• New Gun details
• Doctor details
• Referees
• Permissions
• Membership details
• Photos
• etc, etc.

thanks cass,i thought a sub meant from say one of the same calibre to another, .17 to .17 or .22 to .22.i did not know one could sub a .17 for a .223 without all the paperwork,how does that work?what would i need to do?really appreciate the help,thanks alot

sniperman

TriggerPL wrote: »

Better question what cz have you and how much ?

hi there,i have a 455 thumbhole,16"heavy barrel,have not decided yet on price,or when ill put it up for sale.really just fishing for info at the moment;)

Cass

sniperman wrote: »

thanks cass,i thought a sub meant from say one of the same calibre to another, .17 to .17 or .22 to .22.i did not know one could sub a .17 for a .223 without all the paperwork,

Ordinarily it does mean like for like, but lads, myself included, have had success when the differences are not deemed to be big enough to warrant a full application and so it goes through as a substitution.

how does that work?

Might be a pain in the ass but fill out two FCA1s. One as a full application and the other a s a sub. Submit the sub and if they say it cannot be done then take back the sub and give in the full application. nothing ventured, nothing gained.

what would i need to do?

For a sub?

• Section 1 - Tick substitution, and "I have not held a cert............".
• Section 2 - All of it.
• Section 2.4 - All of it.
• Section 3.1 - Input the details of new gun here.
• Section 3.3 - Dealers details.
• Section 3.4 - Input your current firearm details here.
• Section 3.5 - All of it.
• Section 4.1 - All of it.
• Section 4.2 - All of it.
• Section 4.3 or 5.2 - Depending on whether you are a member of a range (4.3) or gun club (5.2).
• Section 5.1 - All of it.
• Sign and date it.

Include the 2 photos as some stations ask for it and others do not so better to be sure. Also fill in a seperate piece of paper with the extra information as required in certain sections.

Its becoming more and more common for certain districts to ask for almost all info to be filled in on the FCA1 even if only doing a sub. Best to fill them in, and send it off to prevent any returns looking for more info. The only things you definitely don't need are the doctor details, and referees.

sniperman

Cass wrote: »

Ordinarily it does mean like for like, but lads, myself included, have had success when the differences are not deemed to be big enough to warrant a full application and so it goes through as a substitution.

Might be a pain in the ass but fill out two FCA1s. One as a full application and the other a s a sub. Submit the sub and if they say it cannot be done then take back the sub and give in the full application. nothing ventured, nothing gained.


For a sub?

• Section 1 - Tick substitution, and "I have not held a cert............".
• Section 2 - All of it.
• Section 2.4 - All of it.
• Section 3.1 - Input the details of new gun here.
• Section 3.3 - Dealers details.
• Section 3.4 - Input your current firearm details here.
• Section 3.5 - All of it.
• Section 4.1 - All of it.
• Section 4.2 - All of it.
• Section 4.3 or 5.2 - Depending on whether you are a member of a range (4.3) or gun club (5.2).
• Section 5.1 - All of it.
• Sign and date it.

Include the 2 photos as some stations ask for it and others do not so better to be sure. Also fill in a seperate piece of paper with the extra information as required in certain sections.

Its becoming more and more common for certain districts to ask for almost all info to be filled in on the FCA1 even if only doing a sub. Best to fill them in, and send it off to prevent any returns looking for more info. The only things you definitely don't need are the doctor details, and referees.

thanks alot cass,really helpful;)

Nekarsulm

Dont forget the famous "S" if the 223 is coming with a silencer.

TriggerPL

sniperman wrote: »

hi there,i have a 455 thumbhole,16"heavy barrel,have not decided yet on price,or when ill put it up for sale.really just fishing for info at the moment;)

Send me on a pic lad at some stage , lad sound like exactly what I'm after ,

sniperman

TriggerPL wrote: »

Send me on a pic lad at some stage , lad sound like exactly what I'm after ,

will do,soon as i set the ball in motion;)

TriggerPL

sniperman wrote: »

will do,soon as i set the ball in motion;)

Gud lad