Irish Stream/ Sraith Gaeilge ***Moderator Advisory in 1st Post. Please Read!***

El_Triboy

Anybody in band 1 going through the Irish stream?

Bhfuil duine ar bith i mbanda 1 ag dhul tríd an tsraith Gaeilge?

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Moderator note regarding this thread:

Guys, it pains me to have to do this, but a good few years ago, a precedent was set by our Community Manager, Dav, on the rules of posting Irish on an English language forum, and they are as follows:

Dav wrote:

If people want to post in Irish (or indeed any language) on a forum where English is spoken, they're welcome to as long as they provide an English translation to what they're saying. I think that's the fairest on everyone - English is the mother tongue of most Irish people and certainly for the vast majority of Boards.ie users.

There are a few rules for this, the main ones being so that everyone can, if they wish, contribute to a discussion. The next reason is so that Moderators, who may not be familiar with the Irish language, can tell what's going on, know whether forum rules are being broken, understand if there's a flaming row going on... there are a number of reasons why we need these posts translated into English, and I hope this doesn't detract from your enjoyment of the forums, but please note that this is a site-wide directive, and isn't just something I've decided to introduce on my own steam.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation, and please do not comment on, or reply to this Moderator post. If you want to comment about this post, please contact me via PM.

-Shield.

BluesAndThrees

El_Triboy wrote: »

Anybody in band 1 going through the Irish stream?

Bhfuil duine ar bith i mbanda 1 ag dhul tríd an tsraith Gaeilge?

Táimse! Bhíos díreach chun an cheist seo a chur oraibh! Is cosúil go bhfuair tú an teachtaireacht céanna liomsa níos luaithe inniu?

Ladymuck Thesecond

Fuair mé an ríomhphost céanna díreach anois- Ní raibh mé ag súil leis ar chor ar bith mar is as banda a trí domsa!

Smaccer

An feidir libh a ra liom ma leanann muid leis an sraith seo agus teipeann orm sna trialacha go bhfuil siad ag labhairt faoi an bhfuil me fos sa sraith bearla?

Ladymuck Thesecond

Smaccer wrote: »

An feidir libh a ra liom ma leanann muid leis an sraith seo agus teipeann orm sna trialacha go bhfuil siad ag labhairt faoi an bhfuil me fos sa sraith bearla?

Nílim ró-chinnte faoi sin. Ní raibh sé soiléir ón ríomhphost. Déarfainn go mbeadh muid fós sa tsraith Béarla- sin mo thuairim féin ar aon nós!

Smaccer

Ghlaoigh me orthu agus ni raibh a fhios acu fresin!!

BluesAndThrees

Ladymuck Thesecond wrote: »

Nílim ró-chinnte faoi sin. Ní raibh sé soiléir ón ríomhphost. Déarfainn go mbeadh muid fós sa tsraith Béarla- sin mo thuairim féin ar aon nós!

Hi lads bhí mé chun an cheist sin a chur oraibh freisin! Chuir cara liom an cheist sin orm agus ní raibh mé róchinnte. Cé air a chur tú glaoch, an féidir liom iarradh ort? B'fhéidir gur chóir dúinn rphost a sheoladh don seoladh atá sa teachtaireacht ó inniu agus ceist a chur ar an mbean sin?

Inis dúinn má fhaigheann sibh amach conas a oibríonn sé. Déanfaidh mise an rud céanna má fhaighim amach!

BluesAndThrees

"The Garda Commissioner and An Garda Síochána are fully committed to fulfilling their obligations under the Official Languages Act. In this regard the Garda Commissioner is pleased to announce that fluent Irish speakers (who also fulfil all other eligibility criteria) may also apply for consideration to a specialist Irish language stream. If successful, candidates will be allocated to Gaeltacht areas for a period of time as determined by the Garda Commissioner."

(From the Information booklet they sent us upon initial application).

"MAY ALSO APPLY" an dóigh libh go gcialaíonn sé sin go bhfuil muid in ann dul tríd an dá bhealach? Sin a thuigim ón líne sin ar aon nós ach ní féidir liom bheith lánchinnte

Ladymuck Thesecond

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

"The Garda Commissioner and An Garda Síochána are fully committed to fulfilling their obligations under the Official Languages Act. In this regard the Garda Commissioner is pleased to announce that fluent Irish speakers (who also fulfil all other eligibility criteria) may also apply for consideration to a specialist Irish language stream. If successful, candidates will be allocated to Gaeltacht areas for a period of time as determined by the Garda Commissioner."

(From the Information booklet they sent us upon initial application).

"MAY ALSO APPLY" an dóigh libh go gcialaíonn sé sin go bhfuil muid in ann dul tríd an dá bhealach? Sin a thuigim ón líne sin ar aon nós ach ní féidir liom bheith lánchinnte

Bunaithe ar an sliocht sin, feictear domsa go bhfuil an ceart agat Agus gur féidir linn a beith ar fáil don sraith Béarla ag an am céanna. Ní fheadar cé mhéid iarrathóirí a bhfuair ríomhphost sin inniu

Neddieog

An bhfuil aon duine agaibhse sa chéad bhanna?

BluesAndThrees

Neddieog wrote: »

An bhfuil aon duine agaibhse sa chéad bhanna?

Yeah táimse. Thart ar uimhir 2k. Ceard fútsa?

Ladymuck Thesecond

Neddieog wrote: »

An bhfuil aon duine agaibhse sa chéad bhanna?

Táimse sa tríú banna

Smaccer

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

Yeah táimse. Thart ar uimhir 2k. Ceard fútsa?

Taimse comh mairh thart ar 3k.

3fullback

I'd love to know what's going on in here !!!

Neddieog

Fair play daoibh siúd sa chéad bhanna. Do gach duine eile, mé féin san áireamh, is dócha gur deis eile é seo chun fáil fríd go dtí an chéad staid eile. Agus deis ar dóigh ag sin.

Ladymuck Thesecond

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

"The Garda Commissioner and An Garda Síochána are fully committed to fulfilling their obligations under the Official Languages Act. In this regard the Garda Commissioner is pleased to announce that fluent Irish speakers (who also fulfil all other eligibility criteria) may also apply for consideration to a specialist Irish language stream. If successful, candidates will be allocated to Gaeltacht areas for a period of time as determined by the Garda Commissioner."

(From the Information booklet they sent us upon initial application).

"MAY ALSO APPLY" an dóigh libh go gcialaíonn sé sin go bhfuil muid in ann dul tríd an dá bhealach? Sin a thuigim ón líne sin ar aon nós ach ní féidir liom bheith lánchinnte

Léigh mé an ríomhphost arís níos cúramaí- measaim go bhfuil an fhreagra anseo
"Mura bhfaigheann an tSeirbhís um Cheapacháin Phoiblí do fhreagra roimh 12 meán lae ar an Luan 17 Feabhra 2014, glacfar leis gur tharraing tú siar ón tSraith Speisialtachta Ghaeilge. Ní chuirfidh sé isteach áfach ar d’iarratas don tsraith ghinearálta don Gharda faoi Oiliúint. "

Ladymuck Thesecond

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

"The Garda Commissioner and An Garda Síochána are fully committed to fulfilling their obligations under the Official Languages Act. In this regard the Garda Commissioner is pleased to announce that fluent Irish speakers (who also fulfil all other eligibility criteria) may also apply for consideration to a specialist Irish language stream. If successful, candidates will be allocated to Gaeltacht areas for a period of time as determined by the Garda Commissioner."

(From the Information booklet they sent us upon initial application).

"MAY ALSO APPLY" an dóigh libh go gcialaíonn sé sin go bhfuil muid in ann dul tríd an dá bhealach? Sin a thuigim ón líne sin ar aon nós ach ní féidir liom bheith lánchinnte

Léigh mé an ríomhphost arís níos cúramaí- measaim go bhfuil an fhreagra anseo
"Mura bhfaigheann an tSeirbhís um Cheapacháin Phoiblí do fhreagra roimh 12 meán lae ar an Luan 17 Feabhra 2014, glacfar leis gur tharraing tú siar ón tSraith Speisialtachta Ghaeilge. Ní chuirfidh sé isteach áfach ar d’iarratas don tsraith ghinearálta don Gharda faoi Oiliúint. "

thekopend

Ye have very good google translate skills!

Neddieog

thekopend wrote: »

Ye have very good google translate skills!

Is cainteoir dúchais Gaeilge mise a mhac atá iontach brodúil as ár dteanga dúchais. Coinnigh do thuairim aineolach agat féin. Maith an fear.

billie1b

Neddieog wrote: »

Is cainteoir dúchais Gaeilge mise a mhac atá iontach brodúil as ár dteanga dúchais. Coinnigh do thuairim aineolach agat féin. Maith an fear.

Fair play to you, wish I was that good at it

El_Triboy

Mar a thuigimse é lads, má theipeann ort an caighdéan Gaeilge atá uathu a bhaint amach, beidh deis ad fós sa tsraith Béarla.

Iarrfaidh mé orthu inniú más féidir; an bhfuil an próiseas iarratais atá againn scartha ón gceann Béarla nó cén chaoi atá acu len é a dhéanamh.

Beidh crowd ann i gcónaí a chaithfidh anuas orainne mar chainteoirí Gaeilge :D

Doyle06

Ta mise sa dara banna, fuair me an riamhphoist cheanna, sasta go bfuil seans agam fail frid go dti an chead staid eile, bhfuil a fhios ag aon duine cad a tharlaionn anois?

El_Triboy

Doyle06 wrote: »

Ta mise sa dara banna, fuair me an riamhphoist cheanna, sasta go bfuil seans agam fail frid go dti an chead staid eile, bhfuil a fhios ag aon duine cad a tharlaionn anois?

Ba chóir soiléiriú a fháil, an bhfuil na daoine a eiríonn leo caighdeán cuí sa nGaeilge a bhaint amach ag dul tríd próiseas iarratais difriúil (like parallel do na cainteoirí Béarla) nó an bhfuil muid ag dul tríd an bpróiseas céanna ach le scrudú sa nGaeilge.

Tuairim ag duine ar bith faoin tionchar a bheas ag an nGaeilge ar do áit sna bandaí.

BluesAndThrees

Feck sake lads, bhí sé sa chéad teachtaireach a fhuaireamar haha. Deireann sé díreach ag an deireadh nach gcuirfidh sé isteach ar an iarratas Béarla. Sin é an freagra is dócha!

Go n-eirí libh ar fad

Neddieog

Bheadh sé suimiúil fáil amach cá mhéad duine a chur isteach ar an tsraith Gaeilge seo!

MCBRENNAN

well lads conas ata sibh. fuir me band 2! i san grupa bearla cen difriocht ata ann anois?
an bhfuil muid fois sa running lehaidh an cead sraith?

Ladymuck Thesecond

MCBRENNAN wrote: »

well lads conas ata sibh. fuir me band 2! i san grupa bearla cen difriocht ata ann anois?
an bhfuil muid fois sa running lehaidh an cead sraith?

Feictear dúinn, Bunaithe ar an teachtaireacht a fuaireamar, go bhfuil seans againn fós sa tsraith Béarla... Táimse I mbanna 3, mar sin déarfainn nach mbéadh seans ollmhór agamsa sa tsraith Béarla

Archer3083

El_Triboy wrote: »

Mar a thuigimse é lads, má theipeann ort an caighdéan Gaeilge atá uathu a bhaint amach, beidh deis ad fós sa tsraith Béarla.

Iarrfaidh mé orthu inniú más féidir; an bhfuil an próiseas iarratais atá againn scartha ón gceann Béarla nó cén chaoi atá acu len é a dhéanamh.

Beidh crowd ann i gcónaí a chaithfidh anuas orainne mar chainteoirí Gaeilge :D

El_Triboy

An bhfuair tú aon fhreagra uatha go fóill. An bhfuil dhá phróiséas scagtha difriúla in úsaid acu? Bhíos ag smaoineamh, cad a thárlóidh dá mba rud é go raibh and choimhlint sa tsraith Ghaeilge níos géire ná an choimlint sa tsraith Bhéala. Cuirim i gcás go bhfuil 10% des na suimh á dtairiscint do chainteoirí Gaeilge, abróimíd 30 suímh. D'fhéadfadh sé a thárlú go mbeadh sé níos déine áit a bhaint amach ar an gcúrsa traenála. Mheasas i dtosach go mb'fhéidir go mbeadh sé níos fusa áit a bhaint amach dá róghnóinn and sraith Ghaeilge, ach nílim ró chinnte anois.

Neddieog

Dá mbeadh an rogha agaibh leanúint ar aghaidh leis an tsraith Gaeilge agus an tsraith Béarla, cén ceann a phiocfá?

Ladymuck Thesecond

Neddieog wrote: »

Dá mbeadh an rogha agaibh leanúint ar aghaidh leis an tsraith Gaeilge agus an tsraith Béarla, cén ceann a phiocfá?

Chun an fhírinne a rá, phiocfainn an tsraith Béarla mar bhéadh seans níos fear agam a bheith ag obair níos cóngairí do mo cheantar féin. Is as oirthear na tíre domsa, mar sin níl ceantar Gaeltachta gar dom!

Shield

Moderator post:

Guys, it pains me to have to do this, but a good few years ago, a precedent was set by our Community Manager, Dav, on the rules of posting Irish on an English language forum, and they are as follows:

Dav wrote:

If people want to post in Irish (or indeed any language) on a forum where English is spoken, they're welcome to as long as they provide an English translation to what they're saying. I think that's the fairest on everyone - English is the mother tongue of most Irish people and certainly for the vast majority of Boards.ie users.

There are a few rules for this, the main ones being so that everyone can, if they wish, contribute to a discussion. The next reason is so that Moderators, who may not be familiar with the Irish language, can tell what's going on, know whether forum rules are being broken, understand if there's a flaming row going on... there are a number of reasons why we need these posts translated into English, and I hope this doesn't detract from your enjoyment of the forums, but please note that this is a site-wide directive, and isn't just something I've decided to introduce on my own steam.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation, and please do not comment on, or reply to this Moderator post. If you want to comment about this post, please contact me via PM.

-Shield.

Neddieog

Shield wrote: »

Moderator post:

Guys, it pains me to have to do this, but a good few years ago, a precedent was set by our Community Manager, Dav, on the rules of posting Irish on an English language forum, and they are as follows:



There are a few rules for this, the main ones being so that everyone can, if they wish, contribute to a discussion. The next reason is so that Moderators, who may not be familiar with the Irish language, can tell what's going on, know whether forum rules are being broken, understand if there's a flaming row going on... there are a number of reasons why we need these posts translated into English, and I hope this doesn't detract from your enjoyment of the forums, but please note that this is a site-wide directive, and isn't just something I've decided to introduce on my own steam.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation, and please do not comment on, or reply to this Moderator post. If you want to comment about this post, please contact me via PM.

-Shield.

Irish is my first language. I was born and raised with the language and quite proud of it. It isn't mine or anybody else's fault your moderators don't speak Irish. Didn't they go to school for 14 years at the very least?

Irish enjoys constitutional status as the national and first official language of the Republic of Ireland. It is an official language of the European Union and an officially recognised minority language in Northern Ireland.

blazermel

Has anyone heard anything more about the next stage since emailing them back about the Irish stream? I just received an email saying they would be in contact soon but doesn't the aptitude tests start this week for those in band 1 who got through on the english stream?

Neddieog

blazermel wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything more about the next stage since emailing them back about the Irish stream? I just received an email saying they would be in contact soon but doesn't the aptitude tests start this week for those in band 1 who got through on the english stream?

Tá mise sa bhád céanna, Fuair mé ríomhphost ag inse dom go mbeidh siad i dteagmháil gan mhoill ach ní bhfuair mé aon scéal ó shin.

I'm in the same boat. I received an email stating that I would hear from them soon but nothing as of yet.

BluesAndThrees

So what do we reckon then, lads? Should we work away and do these tests in English, then? I was under the assumption that we'd be doing these round of tests as Gaeilge but I assume we won't actually meet the Irish process then until after this, assuming we get through? I'm really confused. I think I'll just fire away with the English versions, then. I'm just paranoid that my application for the Irish wasn't processed when I e-mailed them about it at the end of last week.

Did any of you get confirmation e-mails at all?

Thanks,
S

Archer3083

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

So what do we reckon then, lads? Should we work away and do these tests in English, then? I was under the assumption that we'd be doing these round of tests as Gaeilge but I assume we won't actually meet the Irish process then until after this, assuming we get through? I'm really confused. I think I'll just fire away with the English versions, then. I'm just paranoid that my application for the Irish wasn't processed when I e-mailed them about it at the end of last week.

Did any of you get confirmation e-mails at all?

Thanks,
S

Yeah, I assumed we all got a confirmation email. It was a standard reply basically saying to keep an eye on your message board for further information. I'm going to do the aptitude tests for Stage 2 in English anyway. I'm from one of the Munster Gaeltachts and I'm guessing the Irish versions would be in the Caighdeán Oifigiúil which I hate. So, I'm playing it safe, doing the same English version as everyone else. Then I'll have no excuses! Also, I'd say that in order to proceed with the Sraith Gaeilge you'll only need to have an Irish oral and written exam, the oral exam will be probably very similar to the scrúdú béil for Irish in Leaving.

Neddieog

An bhfuair aon duine scéal ar bith ó shin?

Anyone get any word back yet?

blazermel

Neddieog wrote: »

An bhfuair aon duine scéal ar bith ó shin?

Anyone get any word back yet?

Nothing since, maybe we'll here by 4pm this evening since that was when they emailed last week perhaps?
Wishful thinking maybe

blazermel

check your emails guys, they just sent out the familiarisation stuff there now!

Archer3083

What's the familiarization stuff for? Is it to do with the Irish? Or is it Stage 2 aptitude tests

blazermel

Archer3083 wrote: »

What's the familiarization stuff for? Is it to do with the Irish? Or is it Stage 2 aptitude tests

It's for the Stage 2 aptitude tests! It says that our Irish fluency will be assessed at a later date if we get through the next stage!

Archer3083

blazermel wrote: »

It's for the Stage 2 aptitude tests! It says that our Irish fluency will be assessed at a later date if we get through the next stage!

Are you in Band 2 blazermel? I'm in Band 1. Our window for doing the aptitude tests was from Tuesday this week to Friday. I'm going to do mine later this evening. I'm still do last minute preparation and very nervous.

blazermel

Archer3083 wrote: »

Are you in Band 2 blazermel? I'm in Band 1. Our window for doing the aptitude tests was from Tuesday this week to Friday. I'm going to do mine later this evening. I'm still do last minute preparation and very nervous.

Yep Band 2! Ah I see, how are you finding the practice for the? Best of Luck

Archer3083

blazermel wrote: »

Yep Band 2! Ah I see, how are you finding the practice for the? Best of Luck

I'm finding the practice good overall. You should really look at the other thread on Stage 2 aptitude tests. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057146954&goto=newpost&zxf=1392915623. There's lots of hints and helpful advice in there. They're much tougher than Stage 1. That's to be expected but most people are finding that they improve with practice. I certainly have improved with practice.

Neddieog

Fuair mé an ríomhphost inniu agus an-shásta go deo go bhfuil an deis agam dul fríd go dtí an chéad staid eile.

Received the email today and over the moon that I have a chance to progress to the next round.

Andrea345

Neddieog wrote: »

Fuair mé an ríomhphost inniu agus an-shásta go deo go bhfuil an deis agam dul fríd go dtí an chéad staid eile.

Received the email today and over the moon that I have a chance to progress to the next round.

Is that just for the first stage or will they allow people to pass the next stage if they don't have enough numbers of fluent Irish speakers. Could some in the lower bands of stage 2 progress further again. Is it that they have a quota to fill. I wouldn't think so but its a funny way of doing things not that I begrudge anyone just trying to understand the selection process. If they wanted to take on a certain number of fluent speakers then really there are less than 300 jobs available for non fluent speakers. Anyhow well done very lucky for those getting through.

Neddieog

Andrea345 wrote: »

Is that just for the first stage or will they allow people to pass the next stage if they don't have enough numbers of fluent Irish speakers. Could some in the lower bands of stage 2 progress further again. Is it that they have a quota to fill. I wouldn't think so but its a funny way of doing things not that I begrudge anyone just trying to understand the selection process. If they wanted to take on a certain number of fluent speakers then really there are less than 300 jobs available for non fluent speakers. Anyhow well done very lucky for those getting through.

Bhuel, ar an drochuair níl go leor Gardaí ábalta ár dteanga galánta a labhairt agus gan an ábaltacht acu chun déileáil le baill den phobal ar mhaith leo a gcuid gnóthaí a dhéanamh i nGaeilge. Ach, níl amhras ar bith orm go mbeidh ár dtrialacha díreach mar i gcéanna le lucht an tsraith Bhéarla agus díreach chomh cothrom.

Well, unfortunately not enough members of the force can speak our lovely language and are unable to respond to members of the public who wish to converse as Gaeilge. But I have no doubt in my mind that we will be tested the same as every other candidate in the English stream.

redout

I always had a sneaking suspicion that there was going to be places reserved for native speakers once they mentioned it at the start of the campaign (regardless of order of merit). Wouldn't be surprised if there are a few places also being reserved for a handful of Polish and Mandarin speakers as well as it would seem to make sense.

Neddieog

redout wrote: »

I always had a sneaking suspicion that there was going to be places reserved for native speakers once they mentioned it at the start of the campaign (regardless of order of merit). Wouldn't be surprised if there are a few places also being reserved for a handful of Polish and Mandarin speakers as well as it would seem to make sense.

If you think that native Irish speakers such as myself will be excluded from the normal rules (regardless of order of merit) tá dul amú ort. And the Irish Language is the first national language of this country. Polish and Mandarin are not so I highly doubt it a chara.

redout

If there are only 300 places on offer for arguments sake and none of those or not enough of those who place in the top 300 after all assessments/interviews/medicals etc are conducted, happen to be fluent Irish speakers then it would be logical to presume that X amount of Irish speakers who scored lower on the order of merit will be taken to fill a quota. It is not really that much of a stretch in fairness. They specifically asked on the application form. They must also be aware of the possibility arising that the above scenario could potentially arise. I wouldn't have imagined that many persons applied through the Irish stream. I would also be naive to dismiss places being reserved for Polish and Mandarin speakers. The large volumes of them residing in the state would again make it a logical decision.

Andrea345

Neddieog wrote: »

Bhuel, ar an drochuair níl go leor Gardaí ábalta ár dteanga galánta a labhairt agus gan an ábaltacht acu chun déileáil le baill den phobal ar mhaith leo a gcuid gnóthaí a dhéanamh i nGaeilge. Ach, níl amhras ar bith orm go mbeidh ár dtrialacha díreach mar i gcéanna le lucht an tsraith Bhéarla agus díreach chomh cothrom.

Well, unfortunately not enough members of the force can speak our lovely language and are unable to respond to members of the public who wish to converse as Gaeilge. But I have no doubt in my mind that we will be tested the same as every other candidate in the English stream.

I understand it and agree with it. I am all for the Irish language. I wish you luck.