The Late Late Show: February 7th 2014

Skid X

Updated guest list (with thanks to Ol' Donie)


Senator David Norris who almost became President at the last Election

Samantha Mumba talks about her latest comeback

Eddie Reader, formerly of Fairground Attraction who had a Number One Hit with 'Perfect'

A discussion on the recent Facebook craze Neknomination featuring the family of the late Jonny Byrne, one of two Irish people whose deaths were connected to this 'game'.

Lisa Cannon from TV3's Xpose, with some friends. I hear she's a Powerlifter now, Ted.

And a Garth Brooks Tribute Act.

And Aled Jones. Who sang Walking in the Air (but not in The Snowman)




And now, some Puppies and Kittens

Skid X

The family of tragic teenager Jonny Byrne will discuss his death on the Late Late Show tonight.

The RTE One show, hosted by Ryan Tubridy, will feature a panel discussion on the ‘NekNomination’ internet craze which contributed to the young hurling star’s death.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-of-jonny-byrne-to-discuss-neknomination-craze-on-the-late-late-29988627.html

CountyHurler

Oh ffs, let the misery begin..

I've been playing my own drinking dare game for quite a while now.. See if I can down a pint of the cheapest larger in Lidl and sit through and episode of Tubridy's Late Late Show..

Ol' Donie

That Metro Herald paper yokey tells us:

David Norris will be on. I can't possibly imagine what he'll be talking about...

Samantha Mumba has a five year plan to tell us about...

And, Eddi Reader (of Fairground Attraction) will be in...

That's it.

Knock it all you like, as usual I'm just glad when I've heard of 'em.

Ash.J.Williams

Discussing neknomiations on the late late show is proof the show is out of touch with reality....next week it will be the safe cross code...

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Discussing neknomiations on the late late show is proof the show is out of touch with reality.....

I'm not sure the Byrne family may agree with the above statement.

I would suggest it is quite a relevant topic given the tragic circumstances of their son's recent death.

They are to be admired for their stance and appearing (almost directly after their very sad loss) to talk publicly about this topic.

johnayo

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Discussing neknomiations on the late late show is proof the show is out of touch with reality....next week it will be the safe cross code...

Not sure where you are coming from there.

cofy

The more awareness people have of this neknomination the greater the possibility of avoiding this tragedy again.

vicwatson

RTE gonna shovel this Garth Brooks outbreak down our throats from now till concert time.

FO RTE

delbertgrady

Norris won't be afraid to stir it up in relation to the recent RTÉ/Iona debacle. Tubs won't be able to control that topic if it comes up. Like Bart freeze-framing the moment where Ralph's heart breaks, we'll be able to see the fear in his eyes as he realises he must change the subject NOW, and that he is powerless to do so.

Mr Pseudonym

grey_so_what wrote: »

I would suggest it is quite a relevant topic given the tragic circumstances of their son's recent death.

They are to be admired for their stance and appearing (almost directly after their very sad loss) to talk publicly about this topic.

johnayo wrote: »

Not sure where you are coming from there.

It seems obvious to me that it's a relevant topic (has caused the death of two "participants" in the space of a week). If the LLS - the "Show the nation watches" - can still be said to be relevant, it is appropriate that this be publicised. It's probably likely that much of those watching will not be the target audience, though.

I think it's extraordinarily brave of the Byrne family.

Ash.J.Williams

cofy wrote: »

The more awareness people have of this neknomination the greater the possibility of avoiding this tragedy again.

for real?

Ash.J.Williams

Mr Pseudonym wrote: »

It seems obvious to me that it's a relevant topic (has caused the death of two "participants" in the space of a week). If the LLS - the "Show the nation watches" - can still be said to be relevant, it is appropriate that this be publicised. It's probably likely that much of those watching will not be the target audience, though.

I think it's extraordinarily brave of the Byrne family.

I'm not so sure....i'm not saying anymore out of respect to the family, but it says a lot about modern society

Skid X

I like this chap's response to the Neknomination nonsense.

JM Skipton

Only going to stay in tonight if Omera Mumba is on with his sister!!!!

Roger_007

cofy wrote: »

The more awareness people have of this neknomination the greater the possibility of avoiding this tragedy again.

This has got no publicity at all in Britain where the drinking culture is supposed to be the same as here..........are we not overhyping the internet angle?

Skid X

Roger_007 wrote: »

This has got no publicity at all in Britain where the drinking culture is supposed to be the same as here..........are we not overhyping the internet angle?

I have no idea about Britain, but there have been at least two deaths related to it here.

I think it is well worthy of discussion.

Ash.J.Williams

Roger_007 wrote: »

This has got no publicity at all in Britain where the drinking culture is supposed to be the same as here..........are we not overhyping the internet angle?

for start....its over...sorry late late you're a week to late

Ash.J.Williams

Skid X wrote: »

I have no idea about Britain, but there have been at least two deaths related to it here.

I think it is well worthy of discussion.

what was the 2nd death?

The reason i ask is i recall reading about one poor chap and thinking "this has nothing to do with neknominations"

grey_so_what

Roger_007 wrote: »

This has got no publicity at all in Britain where the drinking culture is supposed to be the same as here..........are we not overhyping the internet angle?

With one death and apparently another I wouldn't think so. It's all about showing off on the Internet that makes this craze so popular.

If the target audience aren't watching (and I doubt any discussion over the years regarding young people were being watched by them on the LLS - I know I wasn't in my day...) at least it's bringing awareness to parents who simply may not be clued in. It gives them an opportunity to learn about this stupid craze and talk to their teenagers and discuss same.

Isn't that what everyone always says about the LLS?

Insofar as it raised topical issues and discussed them?

Ash.J.Williams

grey_so_what wrote: »

With one death and apparently another I wouldn't think so. It's all about showing off on the Internet that makes this craze so popular.

If the target audience aren't watching (and I doubt any discussion over the years regarding young people were being watched by them on the LLS - I know I wasn't in my day...) at least it's bringing awareness to parents who simply may not be clued in. It gives them an opportunity to learn about this stupid craze and talk to their teenagers and discuss same.

Isn't that what everyone always says about the LLS?

Insofar as it raised topical issues and discussed them?

it's over...we are dedicating time to discuss a topic that's over

they are discussing a game of dares....

Skid X

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

what was the 2nd death?

The reason i ask is i recall reading about one poor chap and thinking "this has nothing to do with neknominations"

The two deaths occurred on the same weekend

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-dj-found-dead-amid-3102987

force eleven

Be fun if the Garth Brooks tribute act was actually Garth Brooks himself. I for one, would welcome our new Country & Western overlord. Not really.

Ash.J.Williams

Skid X wrote: »

The two deaths occurred on the same weekend

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-dj-found-dead-amid-3102987

there's nothing in that article to say that DJ died from Neknominations

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

it's over...we are dedicating time to discuss a topic that's over

Ask the family and friends of the late John Byrne that.

If the appearance of the Byrne family saves one young person it will be worth their bravery alone appearing.

Ash.J.Williams

grey_so_what wrote: »

Ask the family and friends of the late John Byrne that.

If the appearance of the Byrne family saves one young person it will be worth their bravery alone appearing.

save them from what?

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

save them from what?

I seriously think you are trolling.

And I'm not going to demean myself by responding to that quote.

Ash.J.Williams

grey_so_what wrote: »

I seriously think you are trolling.

And I'm not going to demean myself by responding to that quote.

I'm definitely not trolling...i'm just pointing out the obvious

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-media-should-not-be-blamed-for-people-s-stupid-behaviour-1.1682548

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I'm definitely not trolling...i'm just pointing out the obvious

Again, the obvious as you point out, it's over for you.

My point is it's not over for the Byrne family.

It is only starting for them imo.

The least they can do is bring awareness to this craze.

You may not agree, that's your prerogative.

Roger_007

Skid X wrote: »

The two deaths occurred on the same weekend

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-dj-found-dead-amid-3102987

This craze or fad is now over. Like most other internet fads, it comes and goes very quickly......unless, of course it keeps getting resurrected by the media. The best thing to do would be just let it go and not mention it again. What programs like the LLS do is, in fact, irresponsible. They are giving publicity to what the purport to be against. It is counter-productive.

Skid X

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

there's nothing in that article to say that DJ died from Neknominations

A young DJ has died amid claims he took part in a 'Neck Nomination' drinking game.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-dj-found-dead-amid-3102987

Ash.J.Williams

grey_so_what wrote: »

Again, the obvious as you point out, it's over for you.

My point is it's not over for the Byrne family.

It is only starting for them imo.

The least they can do is bring awareness to this craze.

You may not agree, that's your prerogative.

the craze is over

grey_so_what

Roger_007 wrote: »

This craze or fad is now over. Like most other internet fads, it comes and goes very quickly......unless, of course it keeps getting resurrected by the media. The best thing to do would be just let it go and not mention it again. What programs like the LLS do is, in fact, irresponsible. They are giving publicity to what the purport to be against. It is counter-productive.

It wasn't over a week ago.

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

the craze is over

And you know this how?

Ash.J.Williams

Skid X wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-dj-found-dead-amid-3102987

it says he died in his sleep at a party...and it was "claimed" he had a drink doing a neknomination the night before...

Ash.J.Williams

grey_so_what wrote: »

And you know this how?

do you think people need to be aware "not" to carry out life threatening dares?

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

do you think people need to be aware "not" to carry out life threatening dares?

That's not what I asked you.

How do you know this craze is over and there will be no more needless deaths from it?..

We are talking about teenagers here with drink on-board.

Not sober adults.

EyeSight

grey_so_what wrote: »

I'm not sure the Byrne family may agree with the above statement.

I would suggest it is quite a relevant topic given the tragic circumstances of their son's recent death.

They are to be admired for their stance and appearing (almost directly after their very sad loss) to talk publicly about this topic.

But will there be a balanced debate? I doubt it because anyone arguing for them(not the stupid ones but the funny ones which put nobody in danger) or for internet freedom could be seen as being disrespectful

Skid X

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

it says he died in his sleep at a party...and it was "claimed" he had a drink doing a neknomination the night before...

I'm not going to post the gory details here, you can search it for yourself.
If you don't think it was anything to do with a stupid game, I disagree.

grey_so_what

EyeSight wrote: »

But will there be a balanced debate? I doubt it because anyone arguing for them(not the stupid ones but the funny ones which put nobody in danger) or for internet freedom could be seen as being disrespectful

I can't speak for the way the LLS treats this issue tonight but I'd imagine it is about the Byrne family bringing awarness?....

Ash.J.Williams

grey_so_what wrote: »

That's not what I asked you.

How do you know this craze is over and there will be no more needless deaths from it?..

We are talking about teenagers here with drink on-board.

Not sober adults.

1 teenager and 1 adult

grey_so_what

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

1 teenager and 1 adult

Yes.

Two needless deaths.

srm23

I read one of the articles from one of many journalists articles falling over themselves to slate neknominations last week,
where he said what happened was "the teenager was dared to jump into the river" - they obviously don't understand
what a neknomination is.

Roger_007

Skid X wrote: »

I'm not going to post the gory details here, you can search it for yourself.
If you don't think it was anything to do with a stupid game, I disagree.

So there will be no need for an inquest if we all know what the cause and circumstances of these deaths. We do NOT know and it is wrong to jump to conclusions. Many young people die every year by doing stupid and risky things. Maybe we should just blame it all on 'social media' and not bother with inquests.

srm23

grey_so_what wrote: »

Yes.

Two needless deaths.

and who was to blame

Ash.J.Williams

srm23 wrote: »

and who was to blame

nobody?

Omackeral

Jesus H Christ. A Neknomination is where friends nominate their pals to upload a video of themselves taking a drink. Then that person nominates another friend. Nowhere does it state that you jump into a fast flowing river during an orange alert weather warning.

The lad made a stupid decision and it's unfortunately cost him his life. I feel terrible for his family and all but I'm Sick of this blame culture.

For Reals

I'm quite sure the LLS may get some mileage out of the Neknomination fad, but it won't save one life. Do I think the kind of teenage Gombeen, (or Judge) thinking of jumping on board such a thing will be watching the LLS and be touched by the concerns of Tubbs & Co.? No to both.
I'm very cynical about any misery piece the LLS does. I believe its filler. I question their use of genuine people who are touched by such things. The fact that they have it regularly and formatted takes away from any legitimacy for me.
In this case the media as usual love a label or gimmick and that's what is really drawing the LLS producers to this.

If they don't discuss Panti-gate with Norris, the LLS should close its curtains for the last time. It will no longer be the talk show that tries and fails, just a waste.

Mumba? I'm on the edge of my seat.
Garth Brooks impersonator? Jesus wept.

FYI:
'88 deaths every month in Ireland are directly attributable to alcohol'
http://alcoholireland.ie/facts/alcohol-related-harm-facts-and-statistics/

Ash.J.Williams

they might as well get Chris Morris to present the show

Ol' Donie

Seriously considering not watching tonight. Between the homophobia and this stupid internet game, it's almost guaranteed to be a thread of "serious debate" as opposed to the usual craic.

I know both are serious issues, worthy of discussion. Just not for me on a Friday night.

(On the other hand, I don't want to miss the Garth cover band...)

Skid X

Everyone complains that the guests are usually from the RTE Canteen - well, here's someone from TV3 instead.

Lisa Cannon from Xpose is training for a Power Lifting Competition and she's making a programme about it. She's on tonight.