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Do u need multi chokes in a shotgun

  • 02-02-2014 5:42pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47


    Hello I'm 14 and I'm looking to buy my first shotgun and I have been thinking of getting a lanber o/u fixed chokes I am not worried about the shotgun but I will be using this shotgun for clays,foxes,pigeons,pheasants,snipe etc I'm just wondering do I need multi chokes


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Hate to burst your bubble lad, but 16 is the minimum age to legally own a gun. You can get licensed on a gun (training cert) at 14, but another person would have to buy, and license the gun first, and even then you could only use it under their supervision. Take it out yourself without them being present and it's an offence. If caught you loose your license, so does the other person, and you have a hell of a time getting another license in future.

    As to your question. If you are using the gun for one purpose only, and the fixed chokes suit then that's fine. It;s not ideal, but you'll adapt to the style of shooting the gun needs to hit. However if you plan on doing clays and hunting where the shot pattern needed will be different then multi-choke is the way to go.

    For example if the Lanber comes with a half, and 3/4 fixed then for close up game it might be tough, and for clays you'd have to wait for the clay to go out which develops bad habits at a young age that you may not get out of later on. AFAIK no shotgun comes with skeet style chokes (fixed) as standard. If it did it would be okay for clays, but a disaster for game (anything over 35+ yards).


    In the end if the gun had fixed chokes you'd make it work, but i would strongly suggest going for a multi choke gun, when you come of age.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    No you do not need multi chokes but if they come with the gun take them. ;)

    As a novice shooter you would be better advised to use open chokes such as 1/4 =improved cylinder and 1/2 =modified.
    The more choke effect we use the higher price we pay at ranges inside 30 yards in terms of a significant reduction in effective pattern spread.

    shotgun-choke-ranges1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Luketie123


    No you do not need multi chokes but if they come with the gun take them. ;)

    As a novice shooter you would be better advised to use open chokes such as 1/4 =improved cylinder and 1/2 =modified.
    The more choke effect we use the higher price we pay at ranges inside 30 yards in terms of a significant reduction in effective pattern spread.

    shotgun-choke-ranges1.jpg

    Yes I would get the training licence and my father to buy and licence it and what guns would you's recommend for under €400


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭snipe02


    Stay away from newer lanbers the older one are good but I bought a brand new one last year got rid what a ball of dirt god love the poor fool that buys it horrible handling even though I convinced myself I liked it started missing would fire first barrel but not second and visa versa id recommend a silma or lumar for a cheap starter ive bought a new silma light fantastic gun I love it too light for clays or even decoying though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Luketie123


    Would a Baikal o/u work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭Dai John


    I have a Lanber 30" multi choke sporting gun and I have Teague extended chokes. My friends think it is a heavy old gun, but I shoot a lot of pigeons and notice the recoil is not as bad as my friends' game guns when they get hot. Never had any problems with it, but I was at a clay shoot and a guy with a Lanber was having problems with the second barrel not firing, I understand this can be rectified easily enough. Did you ever consider an auto ,less recoil ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    Luketie123 wrote: »
    Hello I'm 14 and I'm looking to buy my first shotgun and I have been thinking of getting a lanber o/u fixed chokes I am not worried about the shotgun but I will be using this shotgun for clays,foxes,pigeons,pheasants,snipe etc I'm just wondering do I need multi chokes

    Hi Luke & welcome.
    I have a fixed choke Lanber O/U. Works well enough for me as an all rounder. Have it a long time & have invested many 000s in this hobby & not in any rush to spend on a replacement until it dies. If starting out you'd pick one up handy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭J.R.


    Luketie123 wrote: »
    what guns would you's recommend for under €400

    for under €400 your budget is quite limited.



    You will get a multi choke in reasonable condition



    MINSTRAL O/U €399

    http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/shotguns/mistral-12g-u-o.html



    You will also get a fixed choke gun for that price

    for example:


    BREASCIAN O/U €249

    http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/shotguns/breascian-12g-o-u.html


    BOITO O/U €250

    http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/shotguns/boito-12g-under-and-over.html


    BAIKAL O/U €399

    http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/shotguns/baikal-12g-u-o.html



    or for a few bob more



    LANBER O/U €499

    http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/shotguns/lanber-28-12g-4570.html



    I have only ever fired the Lanber & Baikal from the above selection.....both solid, reliable no-nonsense guns. The others I have never used and don't know anybody who has so I don't have a clue what they're like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Luketie123


    If I was going to get an auto I would probably go the browning maxus rout ino it's a lot more but I wouldent fancy a cheap auto


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    Dai John wrote: »
    I have a Lanber 30" multi choke sporting gun and I have Teague extended chokes. My friends think it is a heavy old gun, but I shoot a lot of pigeons and notice the recoil is not as bad as my friends' game guns when they get hot. Never had any problems with it, but I was at a clay shoot and a guy with a Lanber was having problems with the second barrel not firing, I understand this can be rectified easily enough. Did you ever consider an auto ,less recoil ?

    I have a lanber sporter myself that i shoot a few clays with and had that trouble as you described with it firing the first barrel and not the second..
    A more seasoned shooter standing nearby came over and advised me that the gun wasnt handing over to the second barrel because i was not releasing the trigger fully after the first shot. (basically because i was missing and holding the trigger pulled while waiting for the clay to break)
    When i made the release of the trigger more deliberate when i missed it never gave any further trouble.
    The sporter is quite heavy in 30" but i find it has a nicer ballance than my friends 30" bettinsoli which seems to feel heavier on the fore end hand than the lanber.

    As for the m/c part.. i find it useful to change them depending on the type of shooting im doing or the ranges im expecting to shoot at.
    I often get caught out with my game gun which is choked at 1/4 and 1/2 in that it often takes the second shot to drop pigeon when decoying,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blackpearl


    have a franchi falconet 35 years fixed choke shoot all game would not swop it for the world if you can hit with it don't bother changing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    No you don't need multichokes, what you need is to buy a gun that fits you and the best you can afford. If it happens to have changable choke tubes that's a small bonus. It's not only choke tubes that will influence patterns, shot load and shot size play a huge role as well.

    Excluding single barrels the cheapest practical guns will be side by side shotguns, not to everyone's taste but you can get extremely good guns for a few hundred Euro.

    Decent second hand over and unders and semi's will often retail for similar amounts than a new p of s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Luketie123 wrote: »
    Would a Baikal o/u work

    Most definitely, very robust and relaible guns. They will never win beauty contests but work, work and work some more they definitely do for a relatively small price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Luketie123


    Thanks every one for the feed back so quickly u hav really helped me out


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