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Motors FAQ>taxation and ownership documents>Getting replacement documents

  • 20-12-2005 11:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭


    If you're the registered owner of a vehicle, you can apply for replacement documents using an RF134 form.
    Form RF134 must be completed and witnessed by a member of the Garda Siochana at a Garda station and presented or posted with the appropriate fee (see table below) to your Motor Tax Office.


    Click here for application for replacement documents

    Registration book - Replacement Fee 12 euro
    RF 101 Vehicle Licensing Certificate /Registration Certificate - Replacement Fee 12 euro
    Tax Disc - Replacement Fee 6 euro
    Trailer licence 6 euro
    Certificate of Roadworthiness (light and heavy) 7 euro





    If you are not named as the owner on the Vehicle Registration Certificate (if the seller didn't send off the VRC for example) and there is no contact with the seller/registered owner, there is a process in place to obtain a new VRC

    The new owner must submit the Statutory Declaration Form to the Department of Transport, Shannon, Co. Clare.

    The Declaration includes garage certified details and the sworn date of purchase can be used as the date from which the tax is to be charged,

    no Garda stamp is required.
    No Rf134 is required.

    Statutory Declarations can be witnessed by a commissioner for Oaths, Notary Public/Practising Solicitor or Peace Commissioner.

    Click here to view Statutory declaration form


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭zero_


    Hi,

    I've filled in the replacement reg book form and got it signed by Garda. It doesn't have the fee anywhere included on it?does anyone know how much it is?
    Will a postal order do just paper-clipped onto it?

    Thanks a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,707 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    zero_ wrote: »
    Hi,

    I've filled in the replacement reg book form and got it signed by Garda. It doesn't have the fee anywhere included on it?does anyone know how much it is?
    Will a postal order do just paper-clipped onto it?

    Thanks a lot.

    €12 payable to your local authority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭zero_


    Thanks - i sent it yesterday. A postal order is fine I'm sure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Netherlands


    I bought a car, either the dealer or the Motor office lost the log book, so now I can not tax it.

    I have requested a form so I can declare the car is mine, to be signed in the the Garda.



    We will see how this goes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    What date did you buy car?
    Did dealer say they had it, and have posted it to Shannon?
    Give it a couple weeks, the processing time can be slow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Netherlands


    I bought it on the 12th February,I rang Shannon and they said they had not received anything, the dealer said he had posted the paperwork in.

    I am going to give it until Monday and see.

    The procedure is this.

    Request a statutory declaration form.

    Bring the car to a main dealer (authorised dealer of the said brand), so they can certify it is an Irish model.

    Your PPS number.

    Utility bill, no more than 3 months old.

    Witnessed by a solicitor, commissioner of oaths or a notary.

    Not sure how much it is going to cost me yet.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I bought it on the 12th February,I rang Shannon and they said they had not received anything, the dealer said he had posted the paperwork in.

    I am going to give it until Monday and see.

    The procedure is this.

    Request a statutory declaration form.

    Bring the car to a main dealer (authorised dealer of the said brand), so they can certify it is an Irish model.

    Your PPS number.

    Utility bill, no more than 3 months old.

    Witnessed by a solicitor, commissioner of oaths or a notary.

    Not sure how much it is going to cost me yet.

    I only done all this last month for a 520d.

    Cost me €12.60 in total (excluding fuel for driver to said people)
    • BMW didnt charge me for signing and stamping the form.
    • Solicitor charged me €12
    • Postage was 60c
    you send all that in, they send a letter to the registered owner giving the 14 days to contest it and then you get the new log book. the whole process takes about 4 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Hondavtec


    Got a car wit out a log book how do I get a new log book??can any one help me plz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,707 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Where did you get it? Most likely the car is still in the name of the previous owner, if you get them to apply for a replacement, cost is €12...

    http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/MotorTax/ReplacementDocuments/

    Then when they receive the new form they use the new owner portion of it to put you as new owner and resend to Shannon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Netherlands


    Thanks for the feedback guys.

    I got the chassis number verified by a dealer, easy they just looked under the bonnet and confirmed the serial number with the database (no charge)

    The solicitor charged me 10 euro for stamping the form.

    I was told by the police once I had the statutory declaration that I was operating within the law.

    I sent all the documents via registered post on the 10th March, just received the log book today.

    I believe that the previous owner has 14 days to reply to Shannon saying they no longer own the car ( so the previous owner must have acted quickly on this).

    Overall a good experience if not a little hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 spawinte


    Are Shannon particularly busy right now? Did a change of address and it's been a few weeks. Getting a wee bit worried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Netherlands


    Not sure how busy they are, though they operate 3 days behind from receipt of the post, though you can see that I got my new log book within 12 days, so I would call them if I were you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I sent off all this on a jeep I bought, three months ago. No word since. I'm gonna do it all again and resend. PITA. Last owner said he "lost the logbook before he got the chance to post it to shannon".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Netherlands


    Hi,

    Just a suggestion (though I am sure you have thought of it, use registered post). My understanding is that they post a letter to the previous owner and if he or she does not contest it in the given time frame, then you become the owner of the car.

    Regretfully, it sounds like they lost your paperwork, as the car would have been transferred to you if to you by now had they received it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    Hi All




    Quick question - where do I call or better still anyone have a number to get a duplicate VLC/ log book.

    The original is lost somewhere.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 spawinte


    I got mine sorted by filling out an RF134 and having it stamped by a Garda.

    Next time I have to send the logbook to Shannon I'll be sure to use registered post. The lady who served me at the motor tax office changed the address for me on the computer before she ordered the new one to be sent out so it came to my new address in a couple of days.

    An Post are normally pretty good but you should never trust them completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭faral


    whats the number to check if they have receive log book of a car and is still in processing? I'm checking on line on motortax web page in transaction enquiry form and no sign of any changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    061365000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭aflib


    Hi folks.

    I bought a car at the start of the new year from a garage in Dublin.Had NCT but the tax was out at the end of december last year.

    I never recieved the log book but i went into the tax office to tax it one day to tax it but i couldnt as the car was still in the previous owners name(not the garage).The girl in the tax office wouldnt tell me who the previous owner was.

    The garage has gone under since and im sort of stuck in a tricky situation.
    Luckily i was working in the UK for the last 6 months and didnt have much use for the car but now im back and want to get it sorted ASAP.

    The last tax disc reads december 2013.

    Could someone point me in the right direction on how to resolve this mess.

    Kind regards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭cpoh1


    Was in the same boat recently, previous owner posted the log book but it never arrived in Shannon. You will need:

    1. A form from the department of transport
    2. A sworn affidavit from a solicitor or commisioner of oaths saying the car is yours (on the form sent out)
    3. A stamp from a main dealer confirming the reg and chassis numbers of the car
    4. Copy of bill with proof of address
    5. Your licence number

    Then it takes up to 2 months to post it out.

    Will be interesting for me when I go to tax the car, its out a year but car was "bought" by me in may. I have no way to declare the car off the road because its not in my name. I wont be paying arrears thats for sure while its off the road!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭aflib


    Thanks for reply.

    Bloody ell,thats some mess aint it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The reason it takes so long is because they have to write to the current owner of the car on their system to confirm that they are actually no longer the owner of the car. If they hear nothing in something like 45 days then they proceed to transfer ownernship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Rs24


    Hi all,



    As a result I sent an rf134 form signed and stamped by the gardai to get replacement cert issued to her address. However as the car is in the sellers name, our local tax office returned advising replacement doc can only be requested by registered owner.

    I have received so much inaccurate information on how to get the car registered in her name.
    I haven't gotten an affidavit signed by a commissioner of oats and hope to send that along with a signed and stamped rf134 form to dept of transport or our local tax office.

    Has anyone any advice/experience on whether I am taking the right steps or not.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated... ðŸ‘


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭whizbang


    commissioner of oats

    I think that's supposed to be

    'Commissioner of oafs'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mummy5


    I bought a 2nd hand car in March 2014, this year. After numerous promises from previous owner I still have not received my log book. I contacted Shannon dept. of Transport and they sent me a Statutory Declaration form which a garage and solicitor/peace keeper must sign and stamp.

    Has anybody been through this process? Or have any idea on fees i can expect to pay?

    Any info is greatly appreciated. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I think the oaths commissioner only costs a small few euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Rs24


    kceire wrote: »
    I only done all this last month for a 520d.

    Cost me €12.60 in total (excluding fuel for driver to said people)
    • BMW didnt charge me for signing and stamping the form.
    • Solicitor charged me €12
    • Postage was 60c
    you send all that in, they send a letter to the registered owner giving the 14 days to contest it and then you get the new log book. the whole process takes about 4 weeks.

    Hey, Who did you send the documents too? Local tax officer or Department of transport in Shannon. What the correct shannon address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Fair_Play


    Bought a car earlier this year and still no logbook. The guy i bought it from said he sent out too logbooks on the same day and that they were lost in the post. Then, he said he'd get a new logbook and send it on. That's about 6 or 7 months ago. He's not even responding to me now. He sells a lot of cars on adverts.ie. What would be the next step for me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭cgc5483


    Anyone know if you bring the rf134 form to motor tax office do they issue you with the replacement vehicle registration cert there and then or is it sent in the post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    cgc5483 wrote: »
    Anyone know if you bring the rf134 form to motor tax office do they issue you with the replacement vehicle registration cert there and then or is it sent in the post?

    They post it from Shannon. You get a receipt there and then,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭bonelessbread


    So I have a car with no log book the previous owner never got the logbook as far as I know the person who sold it to him it's still in his name I went to tax office with a form to get a new one but cause it wasn't in my name they wouldn't do it they Said the person's who's name it is in has to do it then sign it over to me is there any easier way to get a new one and have the car in my name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭IanVW


    Hi all. Hope someone can help here. I bought a car privately and the owner didnt have the taxbook(misplaced) and gave me a typed receipt and signed it etc. They said theyd apply for a replacement and then switch it to my name but still no sign. Is there a way i can get it changed myself? As i cant seem to contact who i bought it from i know it was foolish. Would appreciate any help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭mytime


    https://www.motortax.ie/PSE/start.do;jsessionid=0aa0114730d8fc1c3b4602e24c83b939fb17d5947155.e38PaNaSbh0RaO0MaxmOe0?page=welcome


    If you type the reg in here, you can find out if there's been a new tax book issued


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 plaiboi


    So, I bought a car in September. I still never received the log book, signed nothing when I bought it from a guy on adverts (stupid I know, but i'd never bought a car before and didn't really know what I was doing to be honest).

    Two weeks go by and my car is written off by an uninsured driver on dodgey papers from Bulgaria. My insurance has told me that they'll pay out as I am fully comp and because the other car was not insured, it doesn't affect my premium thanks to the Motor insurers bureau.

    They just need the log book and keys off me but like i said, i haven't got a log book. The guy isn't on adverts anymore and his phone has been off ever since.

    I was on to Shannon and they sent me this declaration to send back to them.

    Thing is I need the stamp of "a main dealer" declaring the chassis number, and I need a stamp from a peace commissioner.

    Now, my questions are: who is a main dealer, how much do they charge, will they come to my house to look at the chassis number (the car is outside but I can't drive it), and finally where do I find a peace commissioner?

    Any help really would be appreciated :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Main dealer is just a garage selling new cars. They rarely charge for this stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 plaiboi


    Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Hopefully the car matches the documents now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Peace commissioner http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/civil_law/peace_commissioners.html

    If you can't get the car to a main dealer then I would expect to have to pay for their time and expenses to come out to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 plaiboi


    Hi, I got a peace commissioner and a stamp off the main dealer and sent the forms off.

    There's something dodgey about this car though. I went on that link to check the registration changes and it seems a VRC was issued ten days before I bought the car off that man off adverts.ie

    I was reading the notes on the back of the form I sent in and it says there's no guarantee of getting a VRC. They need to contact who I bought it off etc.

    Has anyone actually been in this situation and had it turn out well?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Have you verified that the car isn't stolen and that the chassis/engine number matches that on a paid history check?

    A seller getting a replacement vrc before selling a car wouldn't be unusual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 plaiboi


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Have you verified that the car isn't stolen and that the chassis/engine number matches that on a paid history check?

    A seller getting a replacement vrc before selling a car wouldn't be unusual.


    Hi, no I haven't done that. The car was taken away today by a man from AXA. I'm just hoping for the best now really :-/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 market777


    Has Anyone had trouble getting a log book off a seller , i cant tax car because they never sent off log book and i lost their details ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    market777 wrote: »
    Has Anyone had trouble getting a log book off a seller , i cant tax car because they never sent off log book and i lost their details ??

    You can declare yourself as the registered owner.

    http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-roads-and-traffic-motor-tax/change-vehicles-owner
    Step 3: New ownership details will be processed

    The new ownership details will then be processed and the documents updated.
    Note: If the Vehicle Registration Certificate is missing, and If there is no contact with the seller, the new owner must submit the Statutory Declaration Form to the Department of Transport, Shannon, Co. Clare. The Declaration includes garage certified details and the sworn date of purchase can be used as the date from which the tax is to be charged, no Garda stamp is required. No Rf134 needed. Statutory Declarations can be witnessed by a commissioner for Oaths, Notary Public/Practising Solicitor or Peace Commissioner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    So, it seems my tax disc is missing, and I'm wondering how do I get a replacement?

    I only found out when a parking warden gave me a ticket for not displaying the tax disc, and as it's one of the things that I put in once a year, I'm guessing someone has nicked the current one for some reason. PITA, and a €60 fine I could do without, but need a new disc before I can park in my local village carpark again.

    My local office will be Naas, if it makes any difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Citizenpain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭FlexMcMurphy


    Hello

    Apologies if this question has been asked loads of times before. I did search this thread and googled for a while but didn't see a straightforward answer.

    I'm buying a 2006 car off my Dad. He has no idea where the "Log book" is so we need to request a replacement one from Shannon.

    I downloaded the form: RF134 from motortax.ie and it asks you to tick whether you want to replace the Registration book OR the Registration Certificate RF101.

    Which one should I tick?

    Registration book
    or
    Registration Certificate RF101 ??

    Also, it doesn't say how much it costs. Any help greatly appreciated.

    Flex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Tick the one for rf101

    New cert is €12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Lancelot970


    Hi there

    I am looking to have my car scrapped and as I have lost the log book I need to get a RF134 form stamped at a Garda station. The problem is I haven't taxed the car for a few months do I need to tax a car im intending to scrap and will the fact it would be in arrears be brought to attention at the Garda station


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭edburg


    Wouldn't have thought you have to tax it, however if it was not declared off road at end of last tax period, then tax office might try to charge you for back tax once they have been notified of destruction.

    I am presuming admittedly that car registration/tax office are informed of scrappage.


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