Aspire BDC

Thecageyone

I've only just come across these, I'm a bit behind on new gadgets in general lately. So forgive me if it's already been discussed a lot.

Anyone tried this range? They have a few different types, that use the same coils afaik. There's a vivi-nova style/size, a mini-vivi style and an ego style.

I've checked a couple of reviews and they're mixed. Some say they experienced gurgling after a few draws, others hail them as being a great device.

Would you recommend them?

I have some in my cart, ready to go, but hesitating.

EGriff

I think they're great. I've been through 5 or 6 heads in a maxi bdc with no leaks or gurgles. They give loads of vapor and flavor is good. I used mini protanks before this and they were good but they did gurgle a lot.

Some people are having bad luck with the heads but I haven't come across a dud yet.

MonstaMash

What EGriff said, +1...

I've been using the Aspire BDC for a while now with no issues what so ever.

Lots of vapor, good flavour, easy to maintain, swap out coils etc. & no leaking or gurgling.

I'm eye-balling the Aspire Nautilus at the moment, just waiting on a little performance feedback on them before I commit...pricey at €33 :eek:

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/nautilus.htm

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/nautilushead.htm

EGriff

I've got my eye on that nautilius too, that would keep me going nearly 2 days without a refill. I don't have a 22mm mod to put it on yet though so I might just get the smaller davide version.

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/davidebdc.htm

grindle

When the heads work people love them more than any other, when they don't people are just as frustrated as they are with other clearos. Some folk have had zero bad heads, others find it's close to 50:50 good:bad with the duals being set up incorrectly and having legs shorting off of eachother.

Edit: weird, when I replied to the thread there were no replies, now there are a few from Internet-aaaaages ago,

Thecageyone

Cheers. I might go ahead and order, chance my luck. At worst, it'll end up in the press with all the other troublesome clearo's I bought over the past year or so

e-smokeireland seems to be the only site with them atm?

MonstaMash

What's the story with Submarine tanks & Boge XL cartomizers, I have no experience with them at all?

I'm looking for low maintenance 5ml tank set-up.

Are you better running them at 2.7-3.1ohm or 1.9-2.2ohm resistance?

Can you swap out coils rather than rebuilding etc?

I have no experience/confidence in rebuilding coils...please forgive my ignorance, I'm eager to learn

Any advice/input appreciated

Thecageyone

I hated sub tanks! Maybe I just couldn't get them to work right? I found the ones I got fiddly and annoying to fill and never got a good draw using them.

Just ordered a Kanger pro-tank, as I discovered I had a voucher spare on bestshop, but will probably get the Aspire next.

EGriff

Thecageyone wrote: »

Cheers. I might go ahead and order, chance my luck. At worst, it'll end up in the press with all the other troublesome clearo's I bought over the past year or so

e-smokeireland seems to be the only site with them atm?

Vaperus have them too, they also have this handy lil thing which will let you try out the aspire coils in a protank: http://www.vaperus.ie/accessories/477-bcc-to-bdc-adapter.html

Thecageyone

Nice one. will throw that into the order and see which works best. If the BDC coils were better in the protank that would save some monies over time.

That Natilus looks interesting. Not for that price though!

Fratton Fred

MonstaMash wrote: »

What's the story with Submarine tanks & Boge XL cartomizers, I have no experience with them at all?

I'm looking for low maintenance 5ml tank set-up.

Are you better running them at 2.7-3.1ohm or 1.9-2.2ohm resistance?

Can you swap out coils rather than rebuilding etc?

I have no experience/confidence in rebuilding coils...please forgive my ignorance, I'm eager to learn

Any advice/input appreciated

The RG500 from Fasttech. It's basically a big fat Protank, looks good on the Sigelei 20 as well.

Lister1

I'm loving the Aspire BDC. Have had no problems with them so far whereas with other clearos I encountered leaking/burning taste....

Fratton Fred

EGriff wrote: »

Vaperus have them too, they also have this handy lil thing which will let you try out the aspire coils in a protank: http://www.vaperus.ie/accessories/477-bcc-to-bdc-adapter.html

Have you tried this?

EGriff

No but its what they used to convert this tank http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/davidebdc.htm to use aspire coils, it originally came with protank coils. The new version gets some great reviews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i4E9fcsBP8

M00lers

My lack of success with the Aspire heads is what got me into dripping and mech mods. That's the only good thing about them in my experience!! I got 2 decent heads from about 10!! Frustrating!!

MonstaMash

moolers2000 wrote: »

My lack of success with the Aspire heads is what got me into dripping and mech mods. That's the only good thing about them in my experience!! I got 2 decent heads from about 10!! Frustrating!!

80% failure rate :eek: :eek: :eek:

Would you not return them to the vendor as faulty

I've purchased 2 so far without any issues...it actually forced my hand into purchasing the Aspire Nautilus I was that happy with them...just my 2 cents!

M00lers

Some of them heads were free from the vendor because of the trouble I had with my first batch. The second batch I tried were as bad and I haven't bothered with them since.

I wouldn't mind but the first head I used was a glorious vape but I could never replicate that experience unfortunately.

Thecageyone

It can be just sheer bad luck. I had terrible problems with with a few atomizers. Like the default ego atty ones you get in the kits. I found them horrible to use. Where others use them hassle free. I also had problems with evods for a while, constant gurgling and leaks. I stayed well away from them for months, then heard they had vastly improved, so gave them one last go. And I would now say they're one of the best standard clearos out there atm.

Not got the aspire yet, should be here tomorrow, will report back then. I have the vivi-nova and the mini type on the way.

I did get my pro-tank II today though, and it's performing very well, thankfully Really nice draw, not too airy - like I found the Puri-tank to be.

eirewhite

I GOT TWO OF THESE THE OTHER DAY AND I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT VAPE. VERY CONSISTANT AND GOOD FLAVOUR. THE DRAW IS A TINY BIT OF THE LOOSE/AIRY SIDE OF ME THOUGH

MonstaMash

eirewhite wrote: »

I GOT TWO OF THESE THE OTHER DAY AND I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT VAPE. VERY CONSISTANT AND GOOD FLAVOUR. THE DRAW IS A TINY BIT OF THE LOOSE/AIRY SIDE OF ME THOUGH

WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU?

Thecageyone

Mine arrived since, and I've been trying out both the mini and the 3.5ml nova-type. So far so good, not a bother.

eirewhite

MonstaMash wrote: »

WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU?

Lol sorry i had most of that typed when i realised caps was on and was too lazy to edit!

meoklmrk91

eirewhite wrote: »

I GOT TWO OF THESE THE OTHER DAY AND I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT VAPE. VERY CONSISTANT AND GOOD FLAVOUR. THE DRAW IS A TINY BIT OF THE LOOSE/AIRY SIDE OF ME THOUGH

Which version do you have? Some are tighter/looser depending on which one.

As a formerly exclusively carto vaper I really like the aspires a lot. Had a terrible time with clearo's when I started vaping first really broke my heart and ended up nearly giving up. I have been using the aspire range pretty much exclusively since the start of December I think and have had very little in the way of issues, no issues with the heads at all that others have reported. Every so often I get a burnt taste, leave it sit for a few minutes and it bounces right back, this isn't a super regular thing though. It's a lot less trouble than carto's, punching, priming etc. It's simple to fill, I have had no leaks, I do get the odd gurgle every now and again but that is more to do with me trying to fill my tank and watch the telly at the same time.

If they can sort out the heads I would have no problem with recommending them wholly to every beginner. It is the easiest and least messy thing out there at the moment.

eirewhite

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Which version do you have? Some are tighter/looser depending on which one.

As a formerly exclusively carto vaper I really like the aspires a lot. Had a terrible time with clearo's when I started vaping first really broke my heart and ended up nearly giving up. I have been using the aspire range pretty much exclusively since the start of December I think and have had very little in the way of issues, no issues with the heads at all that others have reported. Every so often I get a burnt taste, leave it sit for a few minutes and it bounces right back, this isn't a super regular thing though. It's a lot less trouble than carto's, punching, priming etc. It's simple to fill, I have had no leaks, I do get the odd gurgle every now and again but that is more to do with me trying to fill my tank and watch the telly at the same time.

If they can sort out the heads I would have no problem with recommending them wholly to every beginner. It is the easiest and least messy thing out there at the moment.

I have the newer heady with only 2 holes. Think the old had 4. I wouldnt say there way too loose by any means, just the tiniest bit for my liking. In saying that i have a couple of evods too and while they perform pretty good i find them WAY too loose

meoklmrk91

eirewhite wrote: »

I have the newer heady with only 2 holes. Think the old had 4. I wouldnt say there way too loose by any means, just the tiniest bit for my liking. In saying that i have a couple of evods too and while they perform pretty good i find them WAY too loose

I actually meant which version tank did you have. I have tried too so far. This particular one http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056339286, seems to have a tighter draw that the Vivi Nova version. Of course that's just my own opinion but I personally like the looser draw of the vivi nova version.

Thecageyone

Both the mini and Vivi nova type still working good for me so far. On the Vivi nova type aspise I had ONE gurgle. And I know it was because I went a little close to tipping point when filling and angled it a little when placing the coil head in - so easily done. Recommend leaving a few mm space at top of the inner post when filling. I wonder is this the cause of most reported gurgles out there?

meoklmrk91

Thecageyone wrote: »

Both the mini and Vivi nova type still working good for me so far. On the Vivi nova type aspise I had ONE gurgle. And I know it was because I went a little close to tipping point when filling and angled it a little when placing the coil head in - so easily done. Recommend leaving a few mm space at top of the inner post when filling. I wonder is this the cause of most reported gurgles out there?

I would imagine so, it also seems to sort itself out fairly lively which is great.

MonstaMash

Just a tip for those of you using Aspire BDC heads & vaping HOL NET liquids...

I found that the HOL NET liquids were hard on the coils, burnt taste after maybe a days use

In the spirit of experimentation, I swapped out a coil after a days use & left it soaking over 24 hours in 99% IPA (isopropyl alcohol)

After re-swapping out the coil & dry burning to get rid of any residuals, I found the coil as good as new with no burning taste at all

Success :cool:

eirewhite

Thanks for the tip. Ive got one of my own too. May seem like common sense but and easily made mistake. . Dont screw these down too tight its damn near impossible to get the bottom 510connector part off without a plyars if you do. Ive since lubed the threads on both of my two and zero issues since

Gillian72

Today was a bad day for vaping, for me......

I bought a Mini Nova/Aspire BDC last week and it worked perfectly, for the first 24hours. I thought this is it, I've found a clearomizer that actually works. Then 24hours later it started to leak ~ gurgle ~ and then it just stopped working altogether... :eek:

I use the iTaste VV, that reads "NON" when the clearomizer isn't working, that's the reading that I was getting on both of my iTaste batteries. Then I tried it on my two eGo K batteries, and it didn't work on them either, nothing, dead as a dodo!

So, I ordered a new head for my mini Aspire BDC. In the mean time I had no choice but to go back using one of my old crappy, leaky, clearomizers. Ugh!

Anyway, my new Aspire head arrived today. YAY! I was so excited when the post man arrived, the poor man was washed away by the storm. I screwed in the new head, filled my clearomizer with my brand new e-liquid, andddd - nothing...... the damn thing didn't work. :eek: The same as the last one, it just said "NON" on the screen on my iTaste. I tried it on four different batteries, but no joy, f**k! :mad:

That was the straw that broke the camels back, I've had no luck with clearomisers, none whatsoever! So, I snapped and I took a cigarette from my boyfriend and sparked it up.... I looked and my useless clearomizer sitting on the table and said "HA! Up yours!" Ummm..... I'm sure the clearomizer was really offended, NOT!

I have no excuse for having a cigarette today, except for the fact that I was totally frustrated. Along with the new Aspire head and the e-liquid that arrived in the post today, was a new mini Aspire BDC. Thankfully that one works, well it sort of works.... But its gurgling a bit already.... Holy moly! :mad:

I bought a pack of Cartomizers recently, they seemed to work great, no leaking and no gurgling! So, I'm gonna try out a tank next, I'm just not sure which one is best?

I'm not gonna even try the re-buildables, I'd probably blow my gaf up!

Green Hornet

Yeah, I got an aspire a while back and it worked for a while. Think I even posted on here that it was the first clearo that I'd ever tried that actually worked for me. Started gurgling and leaking the very next day. Changed the head but still the same. I don't know why but they seem to work for some people but not me.

I always found cartos pretty damn consistent though. Might never blow the socks off you but will chug on merrily to their hearts content.

Some of the Irish vendors have cheap tanks that should do the trick, submarine tanks etc.

Apparently the one to avoid is the AGR+ but the AGR works well.

Gillian72

Thanks for the advice Green Hornet!

Since writing my last comment, less then an hour ago, the second Mini Aspire BDC that I got this morning has completely stopped working. First it gurgled, then it leaked a bit, and then nothing.... It didn't even last 12 hours. So, that's two Mini Aspire BDC, and one Aspire head within the week, and none of them working. I officially give up!

I'll try out the submarine tank, fingers crossed that will work. The cartomizers that I have don't have a hole in them, do I have to buy ones with a hole? Or do I have to buy a hole puncher or something?

Thanks again for the advice Green Hornet, I'm at the end of my tether here!

Green Hornet

Actually, you have a couple of options.

You could buy the Boge F17 tank and F17 cartos, the cartos come pre punched. I think the F17 cartos are a little narrower than the standard Boges so just keep that in mind if you ever bought a different tank. Think they're available at

http://www.ezsmoke.ie/boge-cartomizer-tank-p-349.html

You could buy a tank and standard Boges but you'd need a punch and punch them yourself. That gives more flexibility for higher/lower VG etc.

Gillian72

Thank you, I really appreciate your advice. I'm about to throw my hat at the whole thing the way I feel tonight. I'll deffo give the tank a go.

Green Hornet

I know. It can be hard. Believe it or not, I started 3 years ago and it was even worse back then. Much worse. Much much worse.....

Back then, almost all disposables REQUIRED fiddling just to work. When they did work, the flavour and vapour was nowhere near as good as modern devices. Batteries were rubbish too. You really needed to want to quit smoking.

Rebuildables weren't really on the scene and those that were cost a fortune.

The first rebuildables like the Clockworks RDA/RTA and Bulli atties were a bit of a game changer. Cartos were a big game changer too. Cartos led to the development of the carto tank and they were all the rage for a long time.

Clearo's were absolutely terrible. They needed a big syringe to fill them and they leaked like the titanic and would cause batteries to short very regularly.

Stick with it though, it is the better option over smoking but it can be frustrating.

I gave up on disposables though a long time ago. They are a bit of a waste to be honest. That said, there are many people out there who use the pre filled cartos and use them with an ego battery and just chuck the carto when its dry. It works for them so if it works....

Thecageyone

Can't get on with carts.

The 2 aspire tanks I got are still going, using the same original coil heads. I gave them a rinse out once. The mini one has gone a bit lob-sided for some reason. When I fill it and tighten back up, it looks crooked inside, maybe I'm over tightening?

Must get some spare coils, but still, for the price, so far so good.

Gillian72

Yes Green Hornet, I imagine it was tough finding decent e-cig stuff three years ago. :eek: At least things are improving now, there seems to be shops and web sites popping up all the time.

The first place that I bought e-liquid, when I first started 6 months ago, was in town in the shop Smokedifferent. I found them really helpful and the let me test everything before I bought it. But I hadn't been into town since before Christmas, so I was buying stuff on-line without testing it first.

I had to go into town today, believe it or not I was buying 200 cigarettes for my Boyfriend. All of my e-cig stuff broke last night, so I was planning on taking a few packs of smokes for myself. But thankfully I dropped into Smokedifferent, the lads there weren't impressed when they saw me with 200 Mayfair. They let me test loads of e-liquids and tanks, and I managed to pick up some really good stuff. So, I'm back up and running and as happy as Larry!

In future I won't ever buy e-liquids without testing them. I am so fussy when it comes to flavors, I have bottles of e-liquid that I bought, used once and left in the press. But thankfully today, after tasting loads of flavors, I found my new favorite e-liquid.

So, I won't be smoking anymore cigarettes, yesterday was just a blip! But really appreciate you advising me, Green Hornet, while I was having my mini melt down last night!

Fratton Fred

I received the BCC to BDC adaptor yesterday (thanks e-smoke).

Although it says it is for the Davide, it fits the protank nicely, as you can see from the attached. It's better quality than I expected and doesn't look out of place at all.

I like the aspire heads, tempted to ditch my kanger stuff and just use these from now on.

deisedav

I am a big fan of the aspire clearomizers, have about five of them and keep them in my pockets so i can change what im vaping pretty quickly. I have never had an interest in rebuildables etc so i find these suit me the finest. There have been a lot of comments about bad heads on this thread which i dont understand, i think the problem there might be that the voltage must be too high for the atty heads. I order all my replacement heads from e-smokeireland.ie and find they are great to deal with. The set up i use is the 1.8 ohm heads running at 3.7 volts, lots of vapour and great flovour. I would agee the hol liquids are harsh on the heads but they still last a week and sometimes more, same with the sweet liquids. Thats my 2 cents worth, cheers.

grindle

As they're dual-coils they're supposed to be able for higher voltages.
The wattage you're running at is just about right for a single coil.

eirewhite

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I actually meant which version tank did you have. I have tried too so far. This particular one http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056339286, seems to have a tighter draw that the Vivi Nova version. Of course that's just my own opinion but I personally like the looser draw of the vivi nova version.

Only getting back to this thread now. Its the maxi bdc that i have. I have a couple of them. Ive gone through around 4 heads and peformance has been consistant through out. i have the vivi nova one too and its brilliant. Im almost getting to like it more than my iclear 30s

eirewhite

Quick question. I have an old head for one of these maxis. It was all gunked up with residue so i thought it might come back to life with a clean? So i rinsed then dry burned and repeated that a few times. Anyways i got the coils back like new. All im getting is burnt taste now though. Is it a gonner?

deisedav

Was that response for me grindle, if so what votage would you suggest. I find at 3.7 volts you get a lot longer out of the battery without having to charge but that set up works grand for me but might not be to everyones liking. cheers

grindle

deisedav wrote: »

Was that response for me grindle, if so what votage would you suggest. I find at 3.7 volts you get a lot longer out of the battery without having to charge but that set up works grand for me but might not be to everyones liking. cheers

Yep, meant for you. Keeping the power low will keep battery for longer so don't deviate if it works for you.
Most single-coil clearos seem to prefer 8-9w, most dual-coil clearos seem to top out at 12-13w judging from comments on the internet (whereas if all things were equal a dual-coil should be able for 16-18w).
Some limitation in the build of those dual-coil heads for whatever reason. I think you might be running the dual-coils to get the same amount of vapour as most would a single coil, whereas others are expecting to be able to pump the power up and increase their everything-production which bashes into the limits of the Aspire heads and leads them to say "Bad heads".
Dual-coils made of thin wire in a fiddly space are always going to be an iffy prospect when hand-built at speed in China.

deisedav

grindle wrote: »

Yep, meant for you. Keeping the power low will keep battery for longer so don't deviate if it works for you.
Most single-coil clearos seem to prefer 8-9w, most dual-coil clearos seem to top out at 12-13w judging from comments on the internet (whereas if all things were equal a dual-coil should be able for 16-18w).
Some limitation in the build of those dual-coil heads for whatever reason. I think you might be running the dual-coils to get the same amount of vapour as most would a single coil, whereas others are expecting to be able to pump the power up and increase their everything-production which bashes into the l2imits of the Aspire heads and leads them to say "Bad heads".
Dual-coils made of thin wire in a fiddly space are always going to be an iffy prospect when hand-built at speed in China.

Ok grindlers, good stuff there i use egos 1300 mah so not much experience on the old vw but id agree that the lads pushing the bollix out of the coils would lead to " bad heads" pretty quickly. I have taken the heads apart just to have a look and the dual coils are very thin indeed. The worst liquid ive found for gunking up/making **** of the coils is banana dreamboat by wingnuts, very nice liquid all the same though. I usually get about a day and a half out of the batteries which is handy.

JH_raheny

I have the Aspire Maxi dual coil as well and they work fine with no gurgle or leaks but I found the heads not lasting long enough some would only last 2 days, ok I am quite a heavy vaper but still at the price they should work better, I got over 2 weeks out of the first in the Innokin 30 yolk

JH_raheny

EGriff wrote: »

I've got my eye on that nautilius too, that would keep me going nearly 2 days without a refill. I don't have a 22mm mod to put it on yet though so I might just get the smaller davide version.

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/davidebdc.htm

Just ordered one of those bad boys, will post opinion when I get it

EGriff

JH_raheny wrote: »

Just ordered one of those bad boys, will post opinion when I get it

Did you get the Nautilus or the Davide? I have the Davide with a few weeks now and it's great, the 3ml it can fit keeps me going for about 24 hours. I wasn't gonna bother because the maxi bdc was fine but I was in vaporpal getting aspire heads and I saw it on the shelf so I grabbed one.

JH_raheny

EGriff wrote: »

Did you get the Nautilus or the Davide? I have the Davide with a few weeks now and it's great, the 3ml it can fit keeps me going for about 24 hours. I wasn't gonna bother because the maxi bdc was fine but I was in vaporpal getting aspire heads and I saw it on the shelf so I grabbed one.

Got the Nautilus as I'm using the Tesla Mod the big version suits me best, it arrived today so will post a little review tomorrow as I haven't tried it yet

MonstaMash

JH_raheny wrote: »

Got the Nautilus as I'm using the Tesla Mod the big version suits me best, it arrived today so will post a little review tomorrow as I haven't tried it yet

You'll not be disappointed, a great piece of kit

supaburger

guys where do you get the coils?
the cheapest i found so far is at the shop in gardiner str (ecirette.ie or ovale) 5 coils for 10€