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A Subway on every corner

  • 21-01-2014 5:16pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭


    From RTÉ News.

    Sandwich chain Subway is planning a major expansion of its business in Ireland and plans to create more than 1,800 jobs over the next six years with the opening of new outlets.

    Subway plans to open 40 new shops in Ireland over the next year alone in an investment worth almost €5m. This will create up to 400 new jobs.

    The company aims to add more than 180 stores around the country by 2020. It opened 16 new stores in Ireland last year which brings its total here to 117.


    Link

    While any genuine new job creation is welcome, I feel that such franchise chains will ultimately squeeze out local family run cafes and small restaurants.

    Our main streets are becoming more and more like the high streets in the UK with little to distinguish them from one town from the next.

    Its got nothing to do with the fact that I hate Subway's food.

    But I'd rather eat in my own locally run Deli Café with its freshly prepared food than some homogeneous branch of a large multinational where hot food is the result of a staff member putting the fillings of a sandwich into a microwave and pushing a button.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

    1,800 Jobs.

    Thats this governments mantra - Jobs Jobs Jobs.

    If Imperial, and BA Tobacco announced thousands of jobs in this country tomorrow, O'Reilly would have no choice but to welcome it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Quiznos never really took off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Quiznos never really took off.

    and yet its product is superior to subway's in almost every way. people are stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭PEACEBROTHER


    you've obviously never tried southwest sauce !!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Quiznos never really took off.

    It died when they took away the meatball option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    There better be one on every corner. Pain in me b0llox driving ten minutes up the road for a sub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    and yet its product is superior to subway's in almost every way. people are stupid.

    Never eaten in one. Perhaps when I'm abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    I know of atleast two subways that have closed in recent years. One of them probably within a year or two of opening.

    Not sure why these two closed, weather it was due to rents, or lack of demand, but I wonder how much support Subway give to the franchises after they have opening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Serious threat to the Luas eh!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.

    I have. Its sad.

    I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

    You have to look damn hard and get off the beaten track in Central London now to find a unique place to have lunch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    From the article, I gather Dublin has 220 corners. I thought there would have been more Ted...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭StompToWork


    I hear true OP's argument about squeezing out home-grown family business, but to be honest, where I live in west cork, it is impossible to find a cafe or deli which produces half decent sandwich/quick food, other than breaded chicken fillets and Cuisine de France type rolls. In a word, it's muck.

    Nothing wrong with a bit of variety, if you ask me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

    "Busy....... eating".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Lapin wrote: »
    I have. Its sad.

    I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

    You have to look damn hard and get off the beaten track in Central London now to find a unique place to have lunch.

    Thats how city centres are going these days. A few stops out in either direction on the tube and there are awesome cafes, sandwich bars etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    Lapin wrote: »
    I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

    These are EVERYWHERE in London! And they ain't even nice. Just average sandwiches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I don't get how subway is so popular. Apart from the clever pushing of the smell of baking onto the street, I find them moderate sambos (at best).


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?
    Yes, but the press release was covered in Southwest Sauce and he was trying to speak whilst eating a 12" meatball.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Lapin wrote: »
    I have. Its sad.

    I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

    You have to look damn hard and get off the beaten track in Central London now to find a unique place to have lunch.

    You do. Brighton's the best for independent outlets, food or otherwise. There's an abundance of unique places to eat there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭byrnem31


    The Mc donaldization of society. Eventually they cannibalize themselves as their are too many. You can see it happening with tescos.
    The subway closed in the square, anyone know why?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    From the article, I gather Dublin has 220 corners. I thought there would have been more Ted...

    If only they were confined to Dublin.
    frag420 wrote: »
    Thats how city centres are going these days. A few stops out in either direction on the tube and there are awesome cafes, sandwich bars etc.

    I highly recommend Café Anglais in Colindale. Its miles out, but well worth it !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Subway is something you would get very sick of if you had it alot, very over rated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,072 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Tommy Bowe likes Subway
    Tommy Bowe is good at rugby
    Eat Subway and you too will be good at rugby


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Just hope it doesn't end up like London where you can't turn a corner without the same 3-4 shops appearing twice on every street. The usual suspects, EAT, Starbucks, Pret A Manger, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭lemansky


    Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.


    I remember on one particular street in San Francisco I could see three Starbucks at the same time. One on my left, one on the other side of the road about 20 feet further along, and then another on the same side as me at the end of the block...which wasn't too far from me to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Butterface


    Great, more chains of terrible food. Just what we need to tackle obesity in this country.

    Subway food is not a healthy alternative to McDonalds like they try to portray themselves. At least in small independent cafes they can vary their menu to include soups and salads!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Barrel


    Lapin wrote: »
    I'd rather eat in my own locally run Deli Café with its freshly prepared food than some homogeneous branch of a large multinational where hot food is the result of a staff member putting the fillings of a sandwich into a microwave and pushing a button.

    Are these the same deli's that were charging €6 for a sandwich and €2.50 for a cup of coffee a few years ago?

    I'd prefare to get a 6" sub and a cappachino for €4 ... Bring them on!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Lapin wrote: »
    I highly recommend Café Anglais in Colindale. Its miles out, but well worth it !

    For anyone hungry in Westminster who is sick of the chains, this authentic greasy spoon place is close by - ranked 84 out of over 16,000 London restaurants on tripadvisor.

    http://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_Review-g186338-d1986778-Reviews-Regency_Cafe-London_England.html

    It's incredible that it has survived in that location (just off Horseferry Road) and managed to keep its low prices.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Great! Now I won't have to go through the shame of going up to the counter for a second and third subway. Just have to walk to the corner. Burning calories along the way. Win win!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?
    Probably will when they come out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Barrel wrote: »
    Are these the same deli's that were charging €6 for a sandwich and €2.50 for a cup of coffee a few years ago?

    I'd prefare to get a 6" sub and a cappachino for €4 ... Bring them on!!!

    You can find a decent deli, you can't eat anything decent in Subway, I lie, the meatballs ones are nice.

    2 were open in my town and both closed. 1 reopened again and Applegreen have 1 as well. It isn't as if there's a lack of deli's or fast food places about in most towns.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.

    Sure, are you offering your private jet to bring us over for the tour?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    On the one hand, I'm sick of American restaurants (and their knock-off imitators) in Ireland.

    On the other hand, they seem to serve better food at a better price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    Subway is so overrated. Give me an independently run deli any day- they're not even that much cheaper anyway. And the smell walking down the street, bleugh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    A subway on every corner and a cap in every ass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    If such places are "open on every corner" then it stands to reason that they're doing business.

    I don't which ones are franchises but I doubt franchises would be part of a concerted effort to drive out niche cafés just pandering to demand .


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I had my first ever subway in San Fran last year after, muck but in most big cities they are as ubiquitous as Starbucks and as said above jobs are jobs.

    I would however much prefer an indigenous business. There are 2 cafés near me, one in particular struggles a bit and I always try to get anything there rather than a chain if possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,835 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I only ever had one sub and that was an Italian BMT. It was spicy and very tasty.
    I hear they are doing a breakfast. Anyone know what it is like as I am fussy about my breakfast?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Barrel wrote: »
    Are these the same deli's that were charging €6 for a sandwich and €2.50 for a cup of coffee a few years ago?

    I'd prefare to get a 6" sub and a cappachino for €4 ... Bring them on!!!

    In my local Deli Café a freshly made chicken/ham/turkey/beef sandwich/roll with salad, coleslaw and mayo/butter/mustard etc costs €3.50 and you won't be hungry after it.

    Better still, they have a deal going with my local pub a few doors down. You can be sitting at the bar and order a sandwich/roll/wrap from their menu and a pint for €6. The barman rings it in, serves you a pint and the Deli drops the sambo down to you !

    Try getting that in Subway :)

    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Just hope it doesn't end up like London where you can't turn a corner without the same 3-4 shops appearing twice on every street. The usual suspects, EAT, Starbucks, Pret A Manger, etc.

    In one sense Dublin already has with the amount of Spar, Centra and Londis shops everywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Lovely, Subway is yum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Aren't just competiting against places that sell chicken rolls like spar and centra


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    It's pretty much already happened with corner shops these days. How many jobs have been lost in them but replaced by Spars, Centras or Londises. You'd have to wonder what the net effect on employment this would have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    These are EVERYWHERE in London! And they ain't even nice. Just average sandwiches.
    Don't bark at me for linking to this certain publication but clearly theres more than one reason to not like this place

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272400/Revealed-Pret-Mangers-bizarre-emotional-labour-rules-workers-told-happy-touch-NEVER-act-moody.html

    I fear for the future!

    I don;t really mind Subway, wouldnt go there that often. You would certainly get very sick of the stuff if you went fairly often


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    K-9 wrote: »
    You can find a decent deli, you can't eat anything decent in Subway, I lie, the meatballs ones are nice.

    2 were open in my town and both closed. 1 reopened again and Applegreen have 1 as well. It isn't as if there's a lack of deli's or fast food places about in most towns.

    Ye's had 2? Thought there was only ever 1. Noticed the one at Applegreen a few weeks ago, never knew one of the others reopened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,835 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    Don't bark at me for linking to this certain publication but clearly theres more than one reason to not like this place

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272400/Revealed-Pret-Mangers-bizarre-emotional-labour-rules-workers-told-happy-touch-NEVER-act-moody.html

    I fear for the future!

    I don;t really mind Subway, wouldnt go there that often. You would certainly get very sick of the stuff if you went fairly often

    Couldn't eat in a place like that. The cups are plastic looking.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I only ever had one sub and that was an Italian BMT. It was spicy and very tasty.
    I hear they are doing a breakfast. Anyone know what it is like as I am fussy about my breakfast?
    Poor to be honest. The same kind of over-processed stuff you'll find in McDonalds. There's much better options around Dundalk.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    and yet its product is superior to subway's in almost every way. people are stupid.

    Love Quiznos! Great subs. I'd eat there everyday except there is this really sour one behind the counter who ****s up the order on purpose. I am Jack's seething contempt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,835 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Poor to be honest. The same kind of over-processed stuff you'll find in McDonalds. There's much better options around Dundalk.

    Hard to beat the Chestnut or Kingfisher.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,830 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Subway melt on Herb and Cheese with southwest sauce. Heated.

    Mmmhmm.


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