A Subway on every corner

Lapin

From RTÉ News.

Sandwich chain Subway is planning a major expansion of its business in Ireland and plans to create more than 1,800 jobs over the next six years with the opening of new outlets.

Subway plans to open 40 new shops in Ireland over the next year alone in an investment worth almost €5m. This will create up to 400 new jobs.

The company aims to add more than 180 stores around the country by 2020. It opened 16 new stores in Ireland last year which brings its total here to 117.

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While any genuine new job creation is welcome, I feel that such franchise chains will ultimately squeeze out local family run cafes and small restaurants.

Our main streets are becoming more and more like the high streets in the UK with little to distinguish them from one town from the next.

Its got nothing to do with the fact that I hate Subway's food.

But I'd rather eat in my own locally run Deli Café with its freshly prepared food than some homogeneous branch of a large multinational where hot food is the result of a staff member putting the fillings of a sandwich into a microwave and pushing a button.

SEPT 23 1989

Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

Lapin

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

1,800 Jobs.

Thats this governments mantra - Jobs Jobs Jobs.

If Imperial, and BA Tobacco announced thousands of jobs in this country tomorrow, O'Reilly would have no choice but to welcome it.

Hande hoche!

Quiznos never really took off.

suicide_circus

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Quiznos never really took off.

and yet its product is superior to subway's in almost every way. people are stupid.

PEACEBROTHER

you've obviously never tried southwest sauce !!!

saintsaltynuts

Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.

Hande hoche!

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Quiznos never really took off.

It died when they took away the meatball option.

dodderangler

There better be one on every corner. Pain in me b0llox driving ten minutes up the road for a sub

Hande hoche!

suicide_circus wrote: »

and yet its product is superior to subway's in almost every way. people are stupid.

Never eaten in one. Perhaps when I'm abroad.

Mint Sauce

I know of atleast two subways that have closed in recent years. One of them probably within a year or two of opening.

Not sure why these two closed, weather it was due to rents, or lack of demand, but I wonder how much support Subway give to the franchises after they have opening.

frag420

Serious threat to the Luas eh!!

Lapin

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.

I have. Its sad.

I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

You have to look damn hard and get off the beaten track in Central London now to find a unique place to have lunch.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

From the article, I gather Dublin has 220 corners. I thought there would have been more Ted...

StompToWork

I hear true OP's argument about squeezing out home-grown family business, but to be honest, where I live in west cork, it is impossible to find a cafe or deli which produces half decent sandwich/quick food, other than breaded chicken fillets and Cuisine de France type rolls. In a word, it's muck.

Nothing wrong with a bit of variety, if you ask me.

mikom

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

"Busy....... eating".

frag420

Lapin wrote: »

I have. Its sad.

I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

You have to look damn hard and get off the beaten track in Central London now to find a unique place to have lunch.

Thats how city centres are going these days. A few stops out in either direction on the tube and there are awesome cafes, sandwich bars etc.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

Lapin wrote: »

I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

These are EVERYWHERE in London! And they ain't even nice. Just average sandwiches.

Khannie

I don't get how subway is so popular. Apart from the clever pushing of the smell of baking onto the street, I find them moderate sambos (at best).

Robbo

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

Yes, but the press release was covered in Southwest Sauce and he was trying to speak whilst eating a 12" meatball.

old hippy

Lapin wrote: »

I have. Its sad.

I was in Regent Street in London last week and every food outlet is either a Pret a Manger, EAT, Starbuck or Café Nero etc.

You have to look damn hard and get off the beaten track in Central London now to find a unique place to have lunch.

You do. Brighton's the best for independent outlets, food or otherwise. There's an abundance of unique places to eat there.

byrnem31

The Mc donaldization of society. Eventually they cannibalize themselves as their are too many. You can see it happening with tescos.
The subway closed in the square, anyone know why?

Lapin

Preston Zealous Velcro wrote: »

From the article, I gather Dublin has 220 corners. I thought there would have been more Ted...

If only they were confined to Dublin.

frag420 wrote: »

Thats how city centres are going these days. A few stops out in either direction on the tube and there are awesome cafes, sandwich bars etc.

I highly recommend Café Anglais in Colindale. Its miles out, but well worth it !

Sir Arthur Daley

Subway is something you would get very sick of if you had it alot, very over rated.

wp_rathead

Tommy Bowe likes Subway
Tommy Bowe is good at rugby
Eat Subway and you too will be good at rugby

J_E

Just hope it doesn't end up like London where you can't turn a corner without the same 3-4 shops appearing twice on every street. The usual suspects, EAT, Starbucks, Pret A Manger, etc.

lemansky

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.

I remember on one particular street in San Francisco I could see three Starbucks at the same time. One on my left, one on the other side of the road about 20 feet further along, and then another on the same side as me at the end of the block...which wasn't too far from me to begin with.

Butterface

Great, more chains of terrible food. Just what we need to tackle obesity in this country.

Subway food is not a healthy alternative to McDonalds like they try to portray themselves. At least in small independent cafes they can vary their menu to include soups and salads!!

Barrel

Lapin wrote: »

I'd rather eat in my own locally run Deli Café with its freshly prepared food than some homogeneous branch of a large multinational where hot food is the result of a staff member putting the fillings of a sandwich into a microwave and pushing a button.

Are these the same deli's that were charging €6 for a sandwich and €2.50 for a cup of coffee a few years ago?

I'd prefare to get a 6" sub and a cappachino for €4 ... Bring them on!!!

Donkey Oaty

Lapin wrote: »

I highly recommend Café Anglais in Colindale. Its miles out, but well worth it !

For anyone hungry in Westminster who is sick of the chains, this authentic greasy spoon place is close by - ranked 84 out of over 16,000 London restaurants on tripadvisor.

http://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_Review-g186338-d1986778-Reviews-Regency_Cafe-London_England.html

It's incredible that it has survived in that location (just off Horseferry Road) and managed to keep its low prices.

PizzamanIRL

Great! Now I won't have to go through the shame of going up to the counter for a second and third subway. Just have to walk to the corner. Burning calories along the way. Win win!

the_syco

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Has the Minister for Health commented on this yet?

Probably will when they come out of it.

K-9

Barrel wrote: »

Are these the same deli's that were charging €6 for a sandwich and €2.50 for a cup of coffee a few years ago?

I'd prefare to get a 6" sub and a cappachino for €4 ... Bring them on!!!

You can find a decent deli, you can't eat anything decent in Subway, I lie, the meatballs ones are nice.

2 were open in my town and both closed. 1 reopened again and Applegreen have 1 as well. It isn't as if there's a lack of deli's or fast food places about in most towns.

WoollyRedHat

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Want to see Manhattan mid-town Starbuck's and Subway on every corner.

Sure, are you offering your private jet to bring us over for the tour?

UCDVet

On the one hand, I'm sick of American restaurants (and their knock-off imitators) in Ireland.

On the other hand, they seem to serve better food at a better price.

Meangadh

Subway is so overrated. Give me an independently run deli any day- they're not even that much cheaper anyway. And the smell walking down the street, bleugh.

CptMackey

A subway on every corner and a cap in every ass

anncoates

If such places are "open on every corner" then it stands to reason that they're doing business.

I don't which ones are franchises but I doubt franchises would be part of a concerted effort to drive out niche cafés just pandering to demand .

helimachoptor

I had my first ever subway in San Fran last year after, muck but in most big cities they are as ubiquitous as Starbucks and as said above jobs are jobs.

I would however much prefer an indigenous business. There are 2 cafés near me, one in particular struggles a bit and I always try to get anything there rather than a chain if possible

tayto lover

I only ever had one sub and that was an Italian BMT. It was spicy and very tasty.
I hear they are doing a breakfast. Anyone know what it is like as I am fussy about my breakfast?

Lapin

Barrel wrote: »

Are these the same deli's that were charging €6 for a sandwich and €2.50 for a cup of coffee a few years ago?

I'd prefare to get a 6" sub and a cappachino for €4 ... Bring them on!!!

In my local Deli Café a freshly made chicken/ham/turkey/beef sandwich/roll with salad, coleslaw and mayo/butter/mustard etc costs €3.50 and you won't be hungry after it.

Better still, they have a deal going with my local pub a few doors down. You can be sitting at the bar and order a sandwich/roll/wrap from their menu and a pint for €6. The barman rings it in, serves you a pint and the Deli drops the sambo down to you !

Try getting that in Subway

Cydoniac wrote: »

Just hope it doesn't end up like London where you can't turn a corner without the same 3-4 shops appearing twice on every street. The usual suspects, EAT, Starbucks, Pret A Manger, etc.

In one sense Dublin already has with the amount of Spar, Centra and Londis shops everywhere.

Holsten

Lovely, Subway is yum.

Gummy Panda

Aren't just competiting against places that sell chicken rolls like spar and centra

P_1

It's pretty much already happened with corner shops these days. How many jobs have been lost in them but replaced by Spars, Centras or Londises. You'd have to wonder what the net effect on employment this would have.

Zonda999

georgiecasey wrote: »

These are EVERYWHERE in London! And they ain't even nice. Just average sandwiches.

Don't bark at me for linking to this certain publication but clearly theres more than one reason to not like this place

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272400/Revealed-Pret-Mangers-bizarre-emotional-labour-rules-workers-told-happy-touch-NEVER-act-moody.html

I fear for the future!

I don;t really mind Subway, wouldnt go there that often. You would certainly get very sick of the stuff if you went fairly often

Mint Sauce

K-9 wrote: »

You can find a decent deli, you can't eat anything decent in Subway, I lie, the meatballs ones are nice.

2 were open in my town and both closed. 1 reopened again and Applegreen have 1 as well. It isn't as if there's a lack of deli's or fast food places about in most towns.

Ye's had 2? Thought there was only ever 1. Noticed the one at Applegreen a few weeks ago, never knew one of the others reopened.

tayto lover

Zonda999 wrote: »

Don't bark at me for linking to this certain publication but clearly theres more than one reason to not like this place

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272400/Revealed-Pret-Mangers-bizarre-emotional-labour-rules-workers-told-happy-touch-NEVER-act-moody.html

I fear for the future!

I don;t really mind Subway, wouldnt go there that often. You would certainly get very sick of the stuff if you went fairly often

Couldn't eat in a place like that. The cups are plastic looking.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

I only ever had one sub and that was an Italian BMT. It was spicy and very tasty.
I hear they are doing a breakfast. Anyone know what it is like as I am fussy about my breakfast?

Poor to be honest. The same kind of over-processed stuff you'll find in McDonalds. There's much better options around Dundalk.

Augmerson

suicide_circus wrote: »

and yet its product is superior to subway's in almost every way. people are stupid.

Love Quiznos! Great subs. I'd eat there everyday except there is this really sour one behind the counter who ****s up the order on purpose. I am Jack's seething contempt.

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

Poor to be honest. The same kind of over-processed stuff you'll find in McDonalds. There's much better options around Dundalk.

Hard to beat the Chestnut or Kingfisher.

awec

Subway melt on Herb and Cheese with southwest sauce. Heated.

Mmmhmm.