Waterford a depressing hole?

CAUN

I suggested to a few mates that I might head down to Waterford of a Saturday just to get a break from Cork. They laughed at me and said stay away from the place, tis gone to shih since the recession.

So Waterford people, is your city any good for a day out? Shopping, restaurants etc. Some tourist stuff/sight seeing as the missus is a foreigner. Sell the city to me.

Thanks

BBM77

CAUN wrote: »

I suggested to a few mates that I might head down to Waterford of a Saturday just to get a break from Cork. They laughed at me and said stay away from the place, tis gone to shih since the recession.

So Waterford people, is your city any good for a day out? Shopping, restaurants etc. Some tourist stuff/sight seeing as the missus is a foreigner. Sell the city to me.

Thanks

SHOCK HORROR! Cork people saying somewhere outside of Cork has gone to ****e…
That’s just cork people being cork people. If you want to see Waterford come to Waterford and make up your own mind. You’ll see that it has suffered from the recession like everywhere has but has far from gone to ****e. If Waterford had gone to ****e its population would be shrinking instead of growing as it is.

Wanderer2010

As a proud Waterfordian born and bred, I feel Im qualified to give you my opinion. Yes, the city has suffered a lot from the recession and has been neglected by the government in terms of new job creation ( a mix of our reputation for being strike happy militant workers and a lower population than say, Galway or Dublin) but thats not the issue. You asked is it ok for a weekend and shopping, tourist sites etc and the answer is a resounding yes!

Our Viking Triangle has been revamped almost beyond recognition and I strongly suggest a trip to Reginalds Tower, the Waterford Crystal plant on The Mall, where they take you on a trip of the remaining product line in the factory and a chance to browse the showrooms afterwards. Then you have Bishops Palace and the Medieval Museum just across the road if you are interested in the history of Irelands Oldest (and best ) City. Both places are relatively cheap to visit and the tour guides are top notch. If you have the time, a walking tour around Waterford taking in the remains of the old City Walls back in the fortress times is a must do and Jack Burchell (think thats the surname) often brings his tourists back to the Granville Hotel for a few pints and banter afterwards, time very well spent.

The best thing about the tourist spots are they are all in close proximity around The Mall, Viking Triangle and up around Baileys New Street, which happens to feature charming old preserved bulidings similar to Old London in style. Shopping? Ok its not our best asset I will admit that but City Square does have Debenhams, River Island, Golden Discs, GameStop etc so you will be catered for if you are male or female and whatever your clothing needs are. We also have The Book Centre, Shaws, Gregorys Clothes for Men on Patrick Street which is a top place for shirts and jeans.

Hungry? No problem, for cafes we have Aoifes on the Mall, The Tea Assembly on Michael Street, Kylemore in City Square and if you after a meal there really is no shortage of places to go. MacLearys on High Street serve in my opinion the best steaks around, you have Italian and Thai restaurants, a new Tapas bar open near Theatre Royal on The Mall and there are plenty of decent places to eat if you take a 10 minute drive out to Tramore (like Brooklyn for example, food there is delicious). Take a walk along the Quay for the atmosphere, window shopping and sights like the Clock Tower.

As for nightlife, its mostly concentrated in one area, Michael Street. I would strongly recommend the Kazbar for live music and atmosphere, Geoffs if you want character, Sinnots to dance the night away and while you are here check out our new nightclub and bar The Reg which is naturally right next to Reginalds Tower. For places to stay you cant beat the Tower Hotel or Dooleys for location and price and if you need help ask! By and large Waterford people are friendly and approachable. Like every city we have some scumbags and a few beggars but thats just life. Dont believe all the bad press about the place, come down, check out a few places as above and make your own mind up!

Oh and I almost forgot, we have a unique bread roll or bun called the Blaa, which comes in 2 varieties Soft and Crusty, and can be filled with ham, cheese, bacon, whatever you want. Its a taste of real Waterford right there (get one in the mornings at the Kiosk stand right outside the Book Centre).

See you there, boy, on the ball....:p

dzilla

Ridiculous thread name

Totally Tropical

BBM77 wrote: »

SHOCK HORROR! Cork people saying somewhere outside of Cork has gone to ****e…
That’s just cork people being cork people. If you want to see Waterford come to Waterford and make up your own mind. You’ll see that it has suffered from the recession like everywhere has but has far from gone to ****e. If Waterford had gone to ****e its population would be shrinking instead of growing as it is.

Cork people being Cork people what do you mean!Yes i am from Cork and i am quite patriotic about my home place and i do get quite argumentative when people put it down or say that it's not as great as i say it is.But i like other places too!It is true that the recession has affected Waterford but it has affected everywhere else has well.I wouldn't tar the populance of an entire place with the one brush based on some throwaway subjective comments.In my subjective opinion i find Waterford (along with Limerick) to be the most underrated city in the country and i find it to be the nicest city in Ireland (along with Limerick) after Cork.That is just a subjective opinion that i wouldn't pass off as fact.Waterford has very friendly people and some lovely medieval architecture and nice scenery along with a great selection of pubs and restaurants.What more would you want?Depressing hole what a load of crap!

KevIRL

hmmm, seems like the OP has a history of trollish type comments to places outside Cork in his short boards posting history

CAUN

KevIRL wrote: »

hmmm, seems like the OP has a history of trollish type comments (plural????) to places outside Cork in his short boards posting history

Wow ... what a "history". One whole comment. LoL.

I see I've struck a nerve with this particular Waterford person. He had to go and snoop around my business. "Who's this stranger coming to my village?" Also, I was referring to one pub in Kilkenny, not the whole city. Talk about overreacting.

To the rest of the folks, thanks for your input.

The thread title was to provoke the strongest pro-Waterford tourist advice. I got what I wanted and if there's any more, please do share.

Digital Society

BBM77 wrote: »

growing as it is.

aaaaa

Gardner

been from waterford i do agree, its a ****hole when it comes to nite life....... hate saying it but its the truth

Mint Aero

It's grand for a visit. Like it's probably better than Carlow and Wexford town?

I think Waterford needs to drop their obsession with Vikings and the Viking Triangle. How long are they going to flog that dead horse? It clearly isn't a seller.

MRnotlob606

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's grand for a visit. Like it's probably better than Carlow and Wexford town?

I think Waterford needs to drop their obsession with Vikings and the Viking Triangle. How long are they going to flog that dead horse? It clearly isn't a seller.

how do you mean its a dead horse ? Waterford is celebrating its 1100 year birthday this year so maybe that's why there's so much talk of it, We are just trying to promote our city that has been overlooked at times.

BadCharlie

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's grand for a visit. Like it's probably better than Carlow and Wexford town?

I think Waterford needs to drop their obsession with Vikings and the Viking Triangle. How long are they going to flog that dead horse? It clearly isn't a seller.

Strongly disagree, its not even finished and dismissing it all ready is madness. Once its finished the council can move onto the next stage.

The area which is knowing as the viking triangle was well run down and badly needed an upgrade.

A one day trip would be enough i think, You just missed winterval which is a great day out with the kids. And even if you don't have kids its still fun.

Cabaal

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's grand for a visit. Like it's probably better than Carlow and Wexford town?

I think Waterford needs to drop their obsession with Vikings and the Viking Triangle. How long are they going to flog that dead horse? It clearly isn't a seller.

How is it a dead horse?
Bottom line is Waterford undersold its tourist attractions for decades, people just depended on the glass to bring people to the city,.

Tourism can bring alot of business to a city (you've only to look at Kilkenny city to see how successful this can be) and the viking triangle thing, along with Irish flag festival are very much a step in the right direction.

Waterford has a whole has alot to offer, but sadly its been under-marketed for a very long time.

imho its posts like yours that show the negative view people have of so many things in Waterford and its a crying shame,

mike65

Why would anyone leave Cork for Waterford anywhere else? Sure Monte Carlo in the mid 60s wouldn't have been as groovy as Cork is at any time.

mike65

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's grand for a visit. Like it's probably better than Carlow and Wexford town?

I think Waterford needs to drop their obsession with Vikings and the Viking Triangle. How long are they going to flog that dead horse? It clearly isn't a seller.

"Isn't a seller" What the feck does that mean?

Waterford was founded as a Viking settlement, the evidence is still here to be seen (though the Norman era has left more artefacts in truth) so the City would be foolish to ignore that heritage and not develop a profile around it. Like Belfast and its sunken boat.

Mint Aero

Calm down lads and lassies just my humble opinion as an outsider...I don't get it. Now I've a basic enough knowledge of history but didn't the Vikings land in Dublin too around the same time. You don't see Dublin shoving Vikings into your face at every oppurtunity.

Now, by all means latch onto this Viking thing but take it down a notch. It's very one dimensional. I've been to Reginalds Tower...pffft, big whoop? Now, what you guys need are lots of shops facing the quays. There's nothing there is there? Except a run down hotel by todays standards which enjoys an influx of grey haired yanks, a couple of small pubs, small insignificant shops etc...that's yer selling point. It's yer handshake to visitors but no by all means obsess about a non existant triangle.

Bottom line as someone from Ireland, I really don't care about Vikings, it's not worth the trip. Even if I did like Vikings is it worth a repeat trip? The Winterval thing is a great idea and is working well for now but what about the rest of the year? The dank depressing winter months? Hmmmmm. And for summer? Tramore? That place is gone to ..... Why did Tramore get so bad? Gets better weather than Salthill like.

Oh and the reason I don't like the triangle, is solely down to that big main street running through it cutting off Waterford Crystal out on its own and the like. So unless there's plans to do something significant about it? Probably impossible.

hardybuck

One thing I notice about Waterford these days is that it could do with a bit of life in the place. Very little buzz around at night in particular. I put that down to the fact that a lot of the 20's and 30's aged generation have left and probably aren't coming back.

Waterford is too big for the small amount of people who seem to be going out at night. There are quite few shows and gigs happening also. You'd get more of an atmosphere in a lot of smaller towns.

I would commend the recent aesthetic improvements that have been made in recent years. There is clearly more work to be done, but at least there are a number of good quality excursions which a tourist could take in on a visit. There are a number of good quality restaurants which I'd be happy to recommend to people down visiting.

Tramore - the prom area could do with a bit of a clean up alright. They have a terrific product there which they really should be exploiting more. Given the amount of house construction that took place there you'd imagine that the county council would have plenty of funds to reinvest in the area - however that would not appear to have been forthcoming.

Ballyv24

Was there ever talk of developing the car parks on the quay into a shopping center with apartments and a multistory car park?

A development like that would at least bring a young population into the city center

hardybuck

Ballyv24 wrote: »

Was there ever talk of developing the car parks on the quay into a shopping center with apartments and a multistory car park?

A development like that would at least bring a young population into the city center

No it wouldn't. Young people are either in WIT or have up and left.

Building anything like a shopping centre or multi level car parks on the Quay would be a disaster as you'd be blocking the views it offers. You might get more traction if you planned something for over on the other side in Ferrybank.

mike65

Mint Aero, what do you expect a largely neglected small city to be exactly? All sing and dancing? Rich? Full of glittery things? Fortnum & Mason? Even The English Market?

CAUN

What is the Viking triangle anyway?

I don't know why people get so worked up about criticism of their home town.

I will be the first person to say that my town is a steaming pile of shihe.

CAUN

hardybuck wrote: »

One thing I notice about Waterford these days is that it could do with a bit of life in the place. Very little buzz around at night in particular.

That's one of the reasons I wanted to go for a day trip. See the "buzz".

What about Kilkenny? Does that have a decent buzz?

stefan idiot jones

CAUN wrote: »

That's one of the reasons I wanted to go for a day trip. See the "buzz".

What about Kilkenny? Does that have a decent buzz?

The flies are buzzing around the 'muck savage' farmers.

hardybuck

CAUN wrote: »

That's one of the reasons I wanted to go for a day trip. See the "buzz".

What about Kilkenny? Does that have a decent buzz?

Depending on when you're going and what you want to do. Kilkenny is more compact so it can feel like there is more buzz. A lot of the tourist buses which used to pull into Waterford seem to go there now instead as it's closer to Dublin.

Is there more to do in Waterford though? I would say that there is.

hardybuck

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

The flies are buzzing around the 'muck savage' farmers.

The 'muck savage' farmers are spending money though, as opposed to the unskilled manual operatives who lost their jobs in Waterford.

stefan idiot jones

hardybuck wrote: »

The 'muck savage' farmers are spending money though, as opposed to the unskilled manual operatives who lost their jobs in Waterford.

Refer to KevIRL's post in this thread.

hardybuck

Should this thread either be binned or renamed to something positive to offer potential visitors?

CAUN

Thread should be binned. Feck Waterford. I don't want to run into the miserable folk on this thread. Wanderer2010 should teach ye a lesson!

I will stop by possibly in the summer for a cuppa.

old gregg

CAUN wrote: »

Thread should be binned. Feck Waterford. I don't want to run into the miserable folk on this thread. Wanderer2010 should teach ye a lesson!

I will stop by possibly in the summer for a cuppa.

In all honesty, what did you expect? You start a thread that is only going to piss the positive people off and bring the negative bottom feeders/trolls out for a few cheap thrills. You only got what you deserved on this one. A differently worded title would have produced a different and more welcoming thread for you. Most people who start 'should I come to Waterford' threads do so with respect and are welcomed and enjoy their visit. Yours just smacked of being an asshole.

BadCharlie

CAUN wrote: »

Thread should be binned. Feck Waterford. I don't want to run into the miserable folk on this thread. Wanderer2010 should teach ye a lesson!

I will stop by possibly in the summer for a cuppa.

Nice going from first post to this. Trolling from so very few posts you have.

BadCharlie

As with the vinking triangle you have to start @ something. All of this costs a lot of money, as pointed out by other posters. Waterford is very much on the bottom of the list of importance in Ireland. If people can come up with better ideas they should make their views knowing to the council.

I like waterford it has all i want & need.

Mint Aero

mike65 wrote: »

Mint Aero, what do you expect a largely neglected small city to be exactly? All sing and dancing? Rich? Full of glittery things? Fortnum & Mason? Even The English Market?

If you ask me personally what I think could be good for Waterford. I'd say play on this Winterval thing, it's kind of a success story so far isn't it. So first idea into my head, market Waterford as the go to destination for romantic breaks? This triangle thing, ok. Lets say there's lots of small cafes and the like dotted around there with loads of sheltered outdoor seating. Be cool wouldn't it? I think already we've got something with broader appeal than Vikings.

It's a pretty unique city in many ways. It has the best and worst entrance to any city in Ireland. If I go through Cork, Limerick, Dublin I go past offices, petrol stations....boring. Waterford? A fantastic view of the city and immediate penetration via one bridge. Sounds cool to me, but again there's nothing welcoming on the quays.

kaef

Digital Society wrote: »

Pity its just more unemployed foreigners.

99% of SWO customers are locals who are looking for the way how NOT to work and get money.

Totally Tropical

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's grand for a visit. Like it's probably better than Carlow and Wexford town?

I think Waterford needs to drop their obsession with Vikings and the Viking Triangle. How long are they going to flog that dead horse? It clearly isn't a seller.

What are you talking about?Are you saying that Waterford shouldn't be proud of the historical core of what is Irelands oldest urban settlement?Waterford is just as good a city as any other in the country.Why compare it to county towns like Wexford and Carlow?The architecture around the viking triangle area Reginalds Tower, The Bishops Palace, Christ Church Cathedral, The City Hall and Theatre Royal building, and the ruins of the Old French Church is amongst the finest in europe.Then you have the Medieval Museum building and the Waterford Crystal Building which are beautiful example of modern architecture.I actually find the shopping in Waterford to be fine and to be no worse than other places.Unfortunately people prefer online shopping and shopping in some bland and soulless shopping mall out on the doughnut ring at the expense of our city centres.Waterford is more than grand it is one of the finest cities in Ireland.If you can't see that then i pity you.I also insist that any visitor to Waterford should visit McLearys Restaurant for a proper example of Waterford hospitality.

gw80

waterford is in a bad place right now, but it has good potential,It was always a manufacturing city, a city built on its own merits, not a special needs city or a tourist city.

The whole region needs to pull together, and the city and county needs to pull together also for the greater good en all that.

We.ll be playing catch up for a long time yet but hopefully the saying "the squeeky wheel gets the oil" will come true at some stage

sawdoubters

vist Dublin were cultured people live

Chip Whitley

sawdoubters wrote: »

vist Dublin were cultured people live

Hmmm. 'Cultured.' :rolleyes:

Mint Aero

Totally Tropical wrote: »

What are you talking about?Are you saying that Waterford shouldn't be proud of the historical core of what is Irelands oldest urban settlement?Waterford is just as good a city as any other in the country.Why compare it to county towns like Wexford and Carlow?The architecture around the viking triangle area Reginalds Tower, The Bishops Palace, Christ Church Cathedral, The City Hall and Theatre Royal building, and the ruins of the Old French Church is amongst the finest in europe.Then you have the Medieval Museum building and the Waterford Crystal Building which are beautiful example of modern architecture.

Nope I'm on about Vikings and speaking as a visitor I don't understand the triangle, that's all? I had a google earlier, and yeah the triangle looks pretty on county council drawings with things highlighted.

So Reginald Tower? It's a tower, there's 100's across the country. Bishops Palace? What's there, never been in. Christ Church, just a church, is it ever open? There's better cathedrals elsewhere. City Hall??? Where's that? Theatre? Cool. Old French Church yeah ok cool. New Museum is really cool too. Not bad, it's a nice core alright but it needs better marketing. Sell the city as something else other the oldest...vikings....yawn. That's my only point really

What's old about the city? Other than Reginalds tower. The other buildings don't stand out.

kaef

Mint Aero wrote: »

t the city? Other than Reginalds tower. The other buildings don't stand out.

You can walk around the medieval city walls. Including piece preserved inside Penney's.

Mint Aero

kaef wrote: »

You can walk around the medieval city walls. Including piece preserved inside Penney's.

I've seen it in Penneys. Is there more? See Derry would win here. They've a huge wall with loads of cannons. Waterford needs more cannons

Totally Tropical

Mint Aero wrote: »

Nope I'm on about Vikings and speaking as a visitor I don't understand the triangle, that's all? I had a google earlier, and yeah the triangle looks pretty on county council drawings with things highlighted.

So Reginald Tower? It's a tower, there's 100's across the country. Bishops Palace? What's there, never been in. Christ Church, just a church, is it ever open? There's better cathedrals elsewhere. City Hall??? Where's that? Theatre? Cool. Old French Church yeah ok cool. New Museum is really cool too. Not bad, it's a nice core alright but it needs better marketing. Sell the city as something else other the oldest...vikings....yawn. That's my only point really

What's old about the city? Other than Reginalds tower. The other buildings don't stand out.

You seem to be a very negative person!Waterford is unique for the amount of historical and medieval architecture within the urban core of the city.I don't think you will find better examples of medieval and historical architecture in any other city in Ireland.

crustybla

Jesus imagine it. The horror! Flogging the history horse to attract tourists. Rome wouldn't do a silly thing like that. Or Paris. Or even Egypt! Oh wait..................

ex_infantry

shur aint cork city built on a marsh!!! some good idea that was eh and it just shows everytime it rains, and also when a waterford person says to cork person "oh boi was in the horrors last night" cork person replies "where's that? is that a nightclub??"

Wanderer2010

Mint Aero wrote: »

Nope I'm on about Vikings and speaking as a visitor I don't understand the triangle, that's all? I had a google earlier, and yeah the triangle looks pretty on county council drawings with things highlighted.

So Reginald Tower? It's a tower, there's 100's across the country. Bishops Palace? What's there, never been in. Christ Church, just a church, is it ever open? There's better cathedrals elsewhere. City Hall??? Where's that? Theatre? Cool. Old French Church yeah ok cool. New Museum is really cool too. Not bad, it's a nice core alright but it needs better marketing. Sell the city as something else other the oldest...vikings....yawn. That's my only point really

What's old about the city? Other than Reginalds tower. The other buildings don't stand out.

But what exactly are you looking for in a city- massive skyscrapers that jump out and wow you? A unique historical tale that involves futuristic characters and a movie-style plot? Thats not realistic. You keep saying "Oh, Reginalds Tower, boring" but there are towers the length and breath of this country and they all hark back to our ancient times when invasions were the norm and Christianity was finding root in Ireland, hence all the Round Towers, Ring Forts etc, they are a monument to our past and hence something to be very proud of, particularly when the Tower is in such a good shape after so many centuries..

It sounds like you are just not interested in Irish history full stop and prefer the shopping/restaurant element of cities which is fine but you shouldnt knock what is a major part of the tourist attraction to Waterford- The Viking Triangle. I mean, it would be hard to go anywhere in this country without some mention of Vikings and invasions etc, it isnt unique to Waterford. If you dont like it fine but dont knock it for the many people who are interested.

Frigga_92

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Shopping? Ok its not our best asset I will admit that but City Square does have Debenhams, River Island, Golden Discs, GameStop etc so you will be catered for if you are male or female and whatever your clothing needs are. We also have The Book Centre, Shaws, Gregorys Clothes for Men on Patrick Street which is a top place for shirts and jeans.

While I don't agree with the rest of your post, that is purely because a lot of what you have listed is not of interest to me (and that's fine, everybody has different interests) but I have to comment on this part. Shopping is practically non-existent in Waterford, saying "you will be catered for" is a load of rubbish.

kaef

imho with that negative attitude you should stay at home and watch another episode of coronation street.

Totally Tropical

26sdrawkcab wrote: »

While I don't agree with the rest of your post, that is purely because a lot of what you have listed is not of interest to me (and that's fine, everybody has different interests) but I have to comment on this part. Shopping is practically non-existent in Waterford, saying "you will be catered for" is a load of rubbish.

No i think thing's like saying shopping is practically non existent in Waterford is a load of rubbish.Waterfords shopping facilities are just as good as anywhere else in Ireland outside of Dublin and Cork.

Mint Aero

Totally Tropical wrote: »

You seem to be a very negative person!

That I'am

Do ye want to hear more of my ideas for yer city? Or will I head off to the Cork forum and give it to them...

Digital Society

Totally Tropical wrote: »

No i think thing's like saying shopping is practically non existent in Waterford is a load of rubbish.Waterfords shopping facilities are just as good as anywhere else in Ireland outside of Dublin and Cork.

That just means that they are bad there aswell.

I think we can do with a few more decent shops really. Current bunch will get local people by but not attract anyone here to them.

Frigga_92

Totally Tropical wrote: »

No i think thing's like saying shopping is practically non existent in Waterford is a load of rubbish.Waterfords shopping facilities are just as good as anywhere else in Ireland outside of Dublin and Cork.

Seriously? :pac:

CelticRambler

Three years ago, I was under the impression that I'd been to Waterford once in thirty years ... but I didn't remember it. Then I had good reason to go back again, and I've visited several times a year since. Three times in December alone. I have absolutely no emotional or family connections with the city, but (maybe because of this) I can see that it's a place with great potential.

Now, that's a problem in itself - it's got potential, but it seems impossible to turn that potential into something real. I've never met a bunch of people with such a negative self-image and lack of pride in their own place! :eek: While the majority here on boards.ie seems to blame the city council, I can only say that ye voted them in, and in my experience, your elected councillors are very representative of their electorate. FFS, why don't any of you answer your e-mails when someone comes to you with a business/tourism proposition ???

Mint Aero wrote: »

If you ask me personally what I think could be good for Waterford. I'd say play on this Winterval thing, it's kind of a success story so far isn't it. So first idea into my head, market Waterford as the go to destination for romantic breaks? This triangle thing, ok. Lets say there's lots of small cafes and the like dotted around there with loads of sheltered outdoor seating. Be cool wouldn't it? I think already we've got something with broader appeal than Vikings.

It's a pretty unique city in many ways. It has the best and worst entrance to any city in Ireland. If I go through Cork, Limerick, Dublin I go past offices, petrol stations....boring. Waterford? A fantastic view of the city and immediate penetration via one bridge. Sounds cool to me, but again there's nothing welcoming on the quays.

Dead right on all counts. The great thing about Waterford for visitors is that everything is within easy reach, and you've got a "bite-size" portion of almost every aspect of Irish history and culture in one place. Sure, the Viking thing is perhaps a bit OTT, but only because the Norman theme doesn't have a high-enough profile. Waterford was the primary trading port with France in those days - why isn't there a huge push to get modern-day Normans over from France?

The Quays - that's an amazing "resource" but woefully underused. All those closed-up shops - there's so much could be done there with a bit of imagination (not even money - just imagination), but having stand-still traffic disrupting the connection between the shops and the quayside is a real turn-off. Putting high-rise appartments and even more parking there is not a good idea!

What about watersports and river/maritime activities - why aren't there fifteen or twenty operators offering high- and low-intensity cruises and tours up the Barrow/Suir or down and around the Waterford/Wexford coastlines? What about long-distance walking tours ...?

On the tourist map of Ireland, Waterford just doesn't exist. Up until a few years ago, I would never have recommended anyone to go there, but thanks to a happy accident, I now know it's worth plenty of repeat visits ... but you need to start teaching tourism and marketing in secondary schools because it doesn't seem like anyone over the age of 20 has a clue ...

And answer your feckin' emails when someone says they want to bring you another 2000 international customers. :mad: