Bus Éireann Stop Question

LXFlyer

corktina wrote: »

the 1045 Mallow to Cork. I suspect that maybe a 243 journey does run on Fridays, but doesn't seem to the rest of the week, unless maybe the 51 is full perhaps. Just from observation, I have a bit of interest in buses and if I see one I tend to watch it (sad) and especially if it's a 243. I don't tend to see the others....the ex-Charleville service could well operate as a 243, although I have not seen this. I think I have seen short workings with 51 up though.

I can't claim any of this as facts though.

Well then the only issue is that they're showing the wrong bus in the 243 timetable Mon-Thu and Saturday at 10:45 - it should be shown as the 51 (which per the 51 timetable is supposed to leave at 1040!).

The 0715 from Charleville works out from Cork at 0610.

Mrs OBumble

corktina wrote: »

How does Public know that given the vehicles are pretty much identical.?

Well when the 51 gets into Galway, it usually has a big orange "51" on the front.

I'm kinda guessing the 234 (or whatever it is) has something else

corktina

no need to be sarky,

to Joe Public a bus is a bus...and to me too. The buses used in this instance are pretty much identical. So you can stick your hand up to a bus on the N20 and if it's a 234 it may stop and if it's a 51 it will not. How does someone who knows nothing about buses know that?

corktina

lxflyer wrote: »

Well then the only issue is that they're showing the wrong bus in the 243 timetable Mon-Thu and Saturday at 10:45 - it should be shown as the 51 (which per the 51 timetable is supposed to leave at 1040!).

The 0715 from Charleville works out from Cork at 0610.

it's not an issue at all. I'm just curious how they work out the licenses.

LXFlyer

corktina wrote: »

it's not an issue at all. I'm just curious how they work out the licenses.

Well it is actually - as if what you are saying about the 1045 departure is true (and I don't doubt you) then the timetable is giving wrong information. It should make clear that passengers are conveyed to Cork by route 51.

As for the licences - the different routes are separated (with only a few exceptions) as I outlined in post 19 of this thread between stage carriage and commercial expressway.

LXFlyer

corktina wrote: »

no need to be sarky,

to Joe Public a bus is a bus...and to me too. The buses used in this instance are pretty much identical. So you can stick your hand up to a bus on the N20 and if it's a 234 it may stop and if it's a 51 it will not. How does someone who knows nothing about buses know that?

They probably could make the difference a bit clearer on the timetable pdfs - the old timetable books clearly stated that Expressway services stopped only at the points listed.

corktina

A passenger getting off a 243 in Mallow might expect a 243 for Cork to pick him up at 1045 whereas it looks like the 51 goes at 1040, so I'm a bit confused. No doubt the driver will tell people connecting what to do

Anyway,the service is much imporved from the one bus-a-day-stops- all -the -way-to-Cork that used to be the case up to a few years back. I notice a lot more passengers waiting for it in Kanturk nowadays too

also another point. What of a passenger who gets picked up half way from Newmarket to Kanturk and wants to go to, lets say Waterloo.... He has boarded a stage service but will want to alight from an express service if he is on the 51

LXFlyer

For the record, I'm assuming that you're saying that the connecting bus from Mallow off the 1020 from Kanturk is a 51 as you have taken the service or been in Mallow when it arrived, and that you've never seen a second bus leaving Mallow (except on Friday)?

Re your confusion - you are finally seeing why I said what I did about the timetable!!

As for your punter from halfway between Newmarket and Kanturk, well he can't go to Waterloo directly - he will either have to walk from the N20, or get a taxi from Mallow. He won't be getting a 51 either way, as there are only two departures from Newmarket (0710 which connects into the 0715 243 from Charleville) and the 1340 service which continues through to Cork.

The 10:45 243 from Mallow on Fridays is the only bus to serve Waterloo inbound, and that bus is most definitely a stage carriage service. All the other services do not serve Waterloo (signified by the solid vertical line in the 243 timetable).

corktina

the point is though he got on a Stage Service...Waterloo is on the N20 with a short walk down the hill, and he presumably he would be able to get off the direct 243 service at that cross, but not the other two services which become a 51 half way there.... forget Waterloo if it makes it clearer, substitute any intermediate point. I have indeed witnessed a 243 to 51 connection more than once.

LXFlyer

corktina wrote: »

the point is though he got on a Stage Service...Waterloo is on the N20 with a short walk down the hill, and he presumably he would be able to get off the direct 243 service at that cross, but not the other two services which become a 51 half way there.... forget Waterloo if it makes it clearer, substitute any intermediate point. I have indeed witnessed a 243 to 51 connection more than once.

Correct - he would be able to get off a 243 at any safe point, but not a 51.

corktina

lxflyer wrote: »

Correct - he would be able to get off a 243 at any safe point, but not a 51.

but then how does the poor driver explain that to a passenger who makes that journey usually in the afternoon but decides to go in the morning instead? It's advertised as 243 all the way.....

LXFlyer

It would appear to be an error in the printed timetable.

Why don't you contact BE in Cork directly yourself to get it clarified and maybe the timetable can be fixed if necessary.

corktina

meh... :-)