Eircom eVision- free TV for 6 months, €10 a month thereafter

7upfree

bk wrote: »

each HD channel uses 10mb/s

Ouch.

Alpha Dog 1

[though e="Soarer;88791984"]Yet another rant, except this time you've outdone yourself by falsely claiming I work for eircom (don't know what Alpha's story is).
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Haha, I'm not an Eircom employee either, I have a long history with Eircom though, where I have grown to detest their company but I was in a situation where living in a apartment Eircom broadband and evision was the only viable option for me.

I was hesitant at first given my long history with them but I decided to take a chance as it suited my needs and I needed something sorted quickly.
So I ordered it a week and a half in advance and low and behold their engineers arrived at the time they said they would and had it fully installed and set up for me within a half hour.

I'm not saying this is the cheapest option available or if there are better alternatives out there.
What I am saying though is that the service has performed surprisingly well and even with Eircom they must get credit where credit is due. Yes the max is 50 meg on evision, yes the connection speed drops back when watching TV but I can make do with 40 meg. Also I'm coming from a sky + HD box so I've an idea what I'm talking about.

jpb14

Out of curiosity what channels do you get with E-Fbre? Is there a link to the channel list?

On a slight off note,I was prommised E-Fibre by Eircom last October.I registerd for it in May of 2013.I rang them on Friday last to see what the hell is going on and they told me that wont have my area transfered over for at least another 4 weeks.The excuse I got was that the Eircom engineers are way behind time and they have still to change over a hell of alot of the local exchange cabinets to accept E-Fibre.
So I presume that this means I cant now opt for Sky unlimited broadband either,as Sky will be using an eircom line too?

BionicRasher

Faz6r wrote: »

my only problem with eircom is the false advertising and the blatant shilling by a minority here on this thread
trying to get people to sign up for a service that is essentially free, just to tie them down to an 18month contract at hefty prices.

as discussed before the channels being offered are fta channels with the exception of 1 or 2

my question is how much commision are yourself and alphadog1 getting?
or maybe it boosts your share prices via the esop/esot
either way its time to stop with the shilling and the lies

more competition in the market is always a good thing and given time and the lack of interest in this evision service by people with more worldly experience, then eircom may actually offer a decent alternative
but thats in the future and not now with the current evision offering

if evision was so good, why would eircom feel the need to falsely advertise it?
why would they need to send cold callers to peoples homes in order to sign up for it?
why would they need people out shilling for them?

Explain why you believe that it's false advertising?
Why do other companies send cold callers to my door? Vodafone, Airtricity, are prime examples.
What have you against Eircom cold calling ?

I can count about 12 channels that are not on FTA. Its also better value for a lot of people that have Eircom broadband and sky. It is getting good feedback from the few people that have it installed on this thread alone and other than the stories of your 'friend' I don't see too many complaints.

Titzon Toast

I got E vision and E fibre BB in last week and I'm very pleased with it.
It's good for the price.

Cantona's Collars

jpb14 wrote: »

Out of curiosity what channels do you get with E-Fbre? Is there a link to the channel list?

On a slight off note,I was prommised E-Fibre by Eircom last October.I registerd for it in May of 2013.I rang them on Friday last to see what the hell is going on and they told me that wont have my area transfered over for at least another 4 weeks.The excuse I got was that the Eircom engineers are way behind time and they have still to change over a hell of alot of the local exchange cabinets to accept E-Fibre.
So I presume that this means I cant now opt for Sky unlimited broadband either,as Sky will be using an eircom line too?

Hold tight,Sky haven't launched fibre & won't be until at least April.I was the same,launch dates were pushed back & back but it was worth the wait for fibre.When the go ahead was given I was connected up within a couple of days.

Capt'n Midnight

BionicRasher wrote: »

Why do other companies send cold callers to my door? Vodafone, Airtricity, are prime examples.

Not to mention the apartments with don't call signs specifically for SKY reps.

TBH when I see reps , I think commission, and how much extra the service must cost to pay for them

Faz6r

BionicRasher wrote: »

What have you against Eircom cold calling ?

i actually look forward to the cold callers so i can set them straight
its amazing the claims and facts they will lie to your face about trying to get your signature.
these guys always give me a great laugh and just as they leave id say keep me appraised of any new bargains :-)

BionicRasher

Faz6r wrote: »

i actually look forward to the cold callers so i can set them straight
its amazing the claims and facts they will lie to your face about trying to get your signature.
these guys always give me a great laugh and just as they leave id say keep me appraised of any new bargains :-)

So you neglected to tell us about the so called false advertising that Eircom are partaking in.....

For me it's a bargain price for a paid TV service that seems to be good according to the previous posters that have recently had it installed.

Faz6r

BionicRasher wrote: »

So you neglected to tell us about the so called false advertising that Eircom are partaking in.....

For me it's a bargain price for a paid TV service that seems to be good according to the previous posters that have recently had it installed.

ok i answered one of yours
tell me about your 12 channels
you seem to answer questions with questions, how political of you

BionicRasher

Faz6r wrote: »

ok i answered one of yours
tell me about your 12 channels
you seem to answer questions with questions, how political of you

Setanta
Dave
Alibi
Watch
Gold
Really
Yesterday
Drama
Discovery
Quest
TLC
Animal planet
Comedy Central
MTV

.... That's more than 12 I believe
And then you have all the Irish channels.... Need I list those?

So fill us in on the false advertising

Faz6r

BionicRasher wrote: »

Setanta
Dave
Alibi
Watch
Gold
Really
Yesterday
Drama
Discovery
Quest
TLC
Animal planet
Comedy Central
MTV

.... That's more than 12 I believe
And then you have all the Irish channels.... Need I list those?

first off the irish stations are fta with saorview
dave is fta via freeview
gold, really, yesterday, drama, alibi, watch are fta too, via skys fta
do u have a proper list or are you just guessing?

BionicRasher

Faz6r wrote: »

first off the irish stations are fta with saorview
dave is fta via freeview
gold, really, yesterday, drama, alibi, watch are fta too, via skys fta
do u have a proper list or are you just guessing?

http://www.freesat.co.uk/channels is the list I am using as that's the channels that are on Freesat
If you can show me how I get Dave, gold, really etc on my Freesat TV then go for it.
I am not sure how you can get these channels on an old sky box without subscription but please post a link and I will dig out my old sky box and get all these lovely extra channels
As for Freeview I don't believe it's available in most parts of Ireland.
And if I don't have Saorview as I get it through sky how do you suggest I get it without forking out more money.

You are still dodging the question of false advertising.

byte

gold, really, yesterday, drama, alibi, watch are fta too, via skys fta

Those channels are not available FTA on satellite. CBS Drama is, though I don't know if that's the drama channel you mean.

Kristopherus

Faz6r wrote: »

first off the irish stations are fta with saorview
dave is fta via freeview
gold, really, yesterday, drama, alibi, watch are fta too, via skys fta
do u have a proper list or are you just guessing?

You are talking nonsense.

Gold, Really, Yesterday, Alibi & Watch are all subscription channels on Sky.

Faz6r

Faz6r wrote: »

first off the irish stations are fta with saorview
dave is fta via freeview
gold, really, yesterday, drama, alibi, watch are fta too, via skys fta
do u have a proper list or are you just guessing?

None of those channels work without a sky sub.

We have them all on our main sky box which has an active subscription and none work on our second skybox in another room with no sub.

Soarer

Faz6r wrote: »

first off the irish stations are fta with saorview
dave is fta via freeview
gold, really, yesterday, drama, alibi, watch are fta too, via skys fta
do u have a proper list or are you just guessing?

You're having a blinder here. :rolleyes:

And even if they were free, you wouldn't be able to record them with Sky's fta.

bk

I do have to say that I believe Eircom are being very deceptive and under hand with their advertising of this product.

They claim it costs just €10 a month, but fail to point out that you can only get it inconjunction with their overpriced broadband.

It is actually more like €20 to €25 per month, compared to getting the same broadband from Vodafone. Personally I believe this to be very deceptive.

Also they don't point out the very large negative impact it will have on your broadband speeds. Now that may or may not matter to a particular customer, but it should be at least made clear so that people can make an informed decision.

As to channel line-up, while there are certainly some subscription only channels, I do feel the channel line up is extremely weak and doesn't include many channels most people expect when paying for TV (e.g. UTV, Sky Channels, etc.).

Soarer

bk wrote: »

I do have to say that I believe Eircom are being very deceptive and under hand with their advertising of this product.

They claim it costs just €10 a month, but fail to point out that you can only get it inconjunction with their overpriced broadband.

That's a bit unfair.

On their home page they have one of the famous asterixs after it, and when you look at the asterix at the bottom of the page, it explains about the efibre necessity. Most companies do something similar, which is why people always warn to "read the fine print".

bk wrote: »

It is actually more like €20 to €25 per month, compared to getting the same broadband from Vodafone. Personally I believe this to be very deceptive.

Don't know anything about that so can't comment.

bk wrote: »

Also they don't point out the very large negative impact it will have on your broadband speeds. Now that may or may not matter to a particular customer, but it should be at least made clear so that people can make an informed decision.

They mightn't broadcast it, but I'd be fairly sure that it's explained to you once you try sign up. Otherwise, I'd imagine, you'd be perfectly within your rights to call shenanigans on them.

bk wrote: »

As to channel line-up, while there are certainly some subscription only channels, I do feel the channel line up is extremely weak and doesn't include many channels most people expect when paying for TV (e.g. UTV, Sky Channels, etc.).

Again a fair comment.
But for a tenner a month, including the ability to record, it'll suit a lot of people.

That should be another €20 in commission for me right there! :rolleyes:

Faz6r

http://www.sky.com/shop/freesat/home/ link for skys fta card which i think costs 20 quid and is a one off charge
it comprises of 240 channels,

http://www.freeview.co.uk/whats-on/channels for your dave, bbc, itv, ect
saorview and freesat joint tuner boxes work with your existing sky infrastructure i.e dish and cabling, and boxes are a one off charge, boxes range in prices, but lidl sell one for 17

some nonsense is being talked about alright, only its not from me lads

false advertising a +1 from me to what bk mentioned

edit irish stations for free via aertv , would you like a link?
http://www.aertv.ie/

now what about my other questions

Soarer

So you want 3 decoder boxes instead of one? One for freesat, one for freeview and one for aertv?
What about the cost of an aerial for the freeview/aertv?
What about the ability, or lack thereof, to record?
3 remotes.
3 hdmi ports needed, or else the added expense of an hdmi switcher.

Still don't see how it's false advertising.

Faz6r

Soarer wrote: »

So you want 3 decoder boxes instead of one? One for freesat, one for freeview and one for aertv?
What about the cost of an aerial for the freeview/aertv?
What about the ability, or lack thereof, to record?
3 remotes.
3 hdmi ports needed, or else the added expense of an hdmi switcher.

Still don't see how it's false advertising.

aertv does not need a box for irish stations, did you not check out the link?
obviously not
im still waiting for my previous questions to be answered
plus wheres your 12 channel list?
these and my other questions are still unanswered

edit: why does it feel like im talking to enda kenny about his 5 point plan?

BionicRasher

Faz6r wrote: »

http://www.sky.com/shop/freesat/home/ link for skys fta card which i think costs 20 quid and is a one off charge
it comprises of 240 channels,

Says its only available to UK addresses. Also all those channels are on Freesat and the only extra ones I can see are 4Music, Liverpool TV and a few Sony movie channels

Faz6r wrote: »

http://www.freeview.co.uk/whats-on/channels for your dave, bbc, itv, ect

Not available to the majority of the country here and also needs additional hardware such as an antenna and box

Faz6r wrote: »

saorview and freesat joint tuner boxes work with your existing sky infrastructure i.e dish and cabling, and boxes are a one off charge, boxes range in prices, but lidl sell one for 17

Yes true you can get a cheap FTA box and also cheap Saorview box (again 2 remotes) but no box on the market that I am aware of will do series record etc and have 7 day EPG for both systems and all the channels as the Eircom box will.

Faz6r wrote: »

aertv does not need a box for irish stations, did you not check out the link?
edit irish stations for free via aertv , would you like a link?
http://www.aertv.ie/

PC/Tablet only. Wont work on a TV unless you can show me some magic that you have to get this working on a bog standard TV. Maybe you are shilling for Aertv?

bk wrote: »

I do have to say that I believe Eircom are being very deceptive and under hand with their advertising of this product.

They claim it costs just €10 a month, but fail to point out that you can only get it inconjunction with their overpriced broadband.

Not true
Read their website and it states with a big astrix *eVision is only available to eircom residential customers who have signed up to eFibre and is subject to a minimum contract of 18 months. eFibre is subject to availability.

Their TV advert also states that its €10 'as part of a bundle'

bk wrote: »

Also they don't point out the very large negative impact it will have on your broadband speeds. Now that may or may not matter to a particular customer, but it should be at least made clear so that people can make an informed decision.

Again not true - read the T&C and you will see
The maximum broadband speed you may receive when receiving
the Service is 50 MBPS.

Do UPC point out how buggy their OS can be or how poor the WiFi signal can be? Do Sky point out how poor their router is? Do Vodafone point out that their router might need constant reboots and that you may only get 10mbps on WiFi?
No. As most compaines dont advertise the possible weaknesses of a service why should Eircom?

Faz6r wrote: »

now what about my other questions

What were they again as I think I have answered you in full however you refuse to answer my question on how you see Eircom false advertising

Faz6r wrote: »

plus wheres your 12 channel list?

I think I listed those a few pages back - maybe you missed it
Setanta
Dave
Alibi
Watch
Gold
Really
Yesterday
Drama
Discovery
Quest
TLC
Animal planet
Comedy Central
MTV

Faz6r wrote: »

some nonsense is being talked about alright, only its not from me lads

Pot, Kettle, Black!

The OP was about a bargain and I think its been pointed out many times now that this is a bargain for a lot of people and not for others. I dont know why I am defending a service I dont even have and possibly will never have but its a couple of people on this thread that seem to have it in for the service and keep trying to drag it down.
Its a perfectly capable service at a good price point that will entice a lot of people to sign up - whats wrong with that? What do the 2 main antagonists have against the service and Eircom in general?

Faz6r

i dont know why i bother, if you you dont see them
who am i to point out that you should have gone to specsavers
plus if you guys are happy paying extra for mediocrity then all is good
some people are/will never be happy
so to find some happy eircom customers paying over the odds is inspirational to me. good for you
it seems amazing to me you see the little asterix but not the bigger picture in front of your eyes

BionicRasher

Faz6r wrote: »

i dont know why i bother, if you you dont see them
who am i to point out that you should have gone to specsavers
front of your eyes

what dont we see?

still dodging the question is all I see

Attack the post not the poster please as I dont appreciate being told to go to Specsavers

channelsurfer2

I guess we will wait and see if it has a good take up or not. It may suit some it may not suit others but until Vodafone come along with a tv offering, which I doubt will be anytime soon its there as a choice for people to decide if they want it or not at that price.

Faz6r

Faz6r wrote: »

i dont know why i bother, if you you dont see them
who am i to point out that you should have gone to specsavers
plus if you guys are happy paying extra for mediocrity then all is good
some people are/will never be happy
so to find some happy eircom customers paying over the odds is inspirational to me. good for you
it seems amazing to me you see the little asterix but not the bigger picture in front of your eyes

You have been proved wrong and that hole you are digging yourself into is getting deeper.

Soarer

Faz6r wrote: »

i dont know why i bother, if you you dont see them
who am i to point out that you should have gone to specsavers
plus if you guys are happy paying extra for mediocrity then all is good
some people are/will never be happy
so to find some happy eircom customers paying over the odds is inspirational to me. good for you
it seems amazing to me you see the little asterix but not the bigger picture in front of your eyes

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

I've posted my situation a few pages back, and you still have enlightened me as to what my alternative is.

It's been said before and I'll say it again. Like most bargains, they suit some people and not others. I believe in my current situation, it's the cheapest option for me. Your solution of aerials/multiple boxes/remotes doesn't suit my needs....not with two lads under 5! But I'm not gonna go off on a rant, putting people down for going that route. ..I can see how it works for some.

You obviously have an issue with Eircom...many do. But don't let your blinkered view of the company dissuade others from what's a genuine bargain...if their situation suits.

Davy

I'm going to close this thread because it seems to going round in circles.

There is plenty of threads in cable forms for the more technical questions.

If anything needs to be added to this thread please let one of the mods know, just report this post.

Thanks