Are Dublin Scumbags worse than London Chavs?

Foxhound38

I've lived between London and Dublin these past few years, so I have plenty of experience getting hassle from both groups. IMO the Dublin scumbag for example is far more likely to accost you or verbally hassle you in the street, but far less likely to actually do you damage than the London Chav.

What is the AH consensus?

Hello_MrFox

What kind of damage do the London chavs do?

freelancerTax

i have lived in both dublin and london (currently live in london)
got way more hassle in dublin - mostly verbal

have seen very little hassle here in london.

Sir Arthur Daley

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I've lived between London and Dublin these past few years, so I have plenty of experience getting hassle from both groups.

So you are a bit of an expert? :rolleyes:

Foxhound38

Hello_MrFox wrote: »

What kind of Damage do the London chavs do?

Far more likely to attempt a mugging or pull a knife on you. Not that scumbags in Dublin don't do that too, but the more common problem with them is verbal abuse or shooting up on public transport etc. It's a more passive annoyance.

Just my opinion of course

Lapin

Dublin scumbags all talk with Nidge Accents.

London chavs all sound the same as Mos Def.

Foxhound38

WikiHow wrote: »

So you are a bit of an expert? :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, a regular Danny Dyer

Nah, just someone who shares a commute with too many scumbags on a daily basis :pac:

stefan idiot jones

Both Vermin but London does have a healthy head start with knife and racial crime.

cmore123

Dublin ones take some beating, that's for sure....

DesperateDan

Lapin wrote: »

Dublin scumbags all talk with Nidge Accents.

London chavs all sound the same as Mos Def.

Mos Def the American rapper? Eh not really :pac:

Lapin

cmore123 wrote: »

Dublin ones take some beating, that's for sure....

I wish they would.

Lapin

DesperateDan wrote: »

Mos Def the American rapper? Eh not really :pac:

Yes really.

The ones I passed outside Stockwell and Hendon Central Tube stations the other night did.

Two opposite sides of town. Same Mos Def accents.

ceadaoin.

I lived in London and never got any hassle. Can't even say I saw that many stereotypical 'chavs' on a day to day basis. Never got any hassle in Dublin either although the tracksuit wearing scumbag types seem more numerous there

Gokei

My 90yr old Granny gets by in Dublin with no fear of scumbags.

As do my 2 children, and 6 nieces all under 10.

Maybe some self defense classes might help with your irrational fears op?

keith16

In my experience, the chavs don't infest the major parts of central London.

cmore123

It's a joke. You see them buying and selling their stuff all over the city centre. Why do the Gardai seem either disinterested or not capable of getting them off the streets?

Is it something wrong with our laws?

hatrickpatrick

In Britain they have ASBOs and jail time for scumbags.
In Ireland, it's suspended sentences all around. Maybe the occasional "Ah heyor, leave it bleedin' ouuu" :rolleyes:

Shrills

A friend of mine who has lived in both Dublin and London for years told me he feels really safe walking around Dublin at night, when drunk too, but in London he'd be afraid of being attacked.

Jonny Blaze

Go to Africa.. you will know true fear then!

Chazz Michael Michaels

Gokei wrote: »

My 90yr old Granny gets by in Dublin with no fear of scumbags.

As do my 2 children, and 6 nieces all under 10.

Maybe some self defense classes might help with your irrational fears op?

Your post really makes no sense.

Duckworth_Luas

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

Go to Africa.. you will know true fear then!

Feed the world
Let them know it's christmas time

Red Kev

keith16 wrote: »

In my experience, the chavs don't infest the major parts of central London.

Dublin is unusual for a large city in that there are a lot of working class areas right in the city centre. London, Paris and others don't have that.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

In Britain they have ASBOs and jail time for scumbags.
In Ireland, it's suspended sentences all around. Maybe the occasional "Ah heyor, leave it bleedin' ouuu" :rolleyes:

Policing is a major factor alright, though to be fair an ASBO is a badge of honour amongst some people in the UK. They could consider here what they do in some areas of Hamburg and corral all the troublemakers into one area of the city.

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

Go to Africa.. you will know true fear then!

Lived in Mali, Senegal and Guinea Bissau for 8 years, never had one bit of hassle and that includes so called dangerous Dakar. Some places like Lagos, Nairobi or Johannesburg might be dangerous but the majority of Africa is fine.

Wacker The Attacker

we is the man yoo of the souf dahblin youse fackin' cantz

Jonny Blaze

Red Kev wrote: »

Lived in Mali, Senegal and Guinea Bissau for 8 years, never had one bit of hassle and that includes so called dangerous Dakar. Some places like Lagos, Nairobi or Johannesburg might be dangerous but the majority of Africa is fine.

Ive only really been to Johannesburg...

Wacker The Attacker

Red Kev wrote: »

Dublin is unusual for a large city in that there are a lot of working class areas right in the city centre. London, Paris and others don't have that.



Policing is a major factor alright, though to be fair an ASBO is a badge of honour amongst some people in the UK. They could consider here what they do in some areas of Hamburg and corral all the troublemakers into one area of the city.



Lived in Mali, Senegal and Guinea Bissau for 8 years, never had one bit of hassle and that includes so called dangerous Dakar. Some places like Lagos, Nairobi or Johannesburg might be dangerous but the majority of Africa is fine.

Such as?

Bullseye1

I guess it depends on where you are living.

The_Valeyard

Who would win in a fight?

Gokei

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Your post really makes no sense.

She's worried about getting accosted by roaming gangs of Dublin scum.

I'm saying in 35 years I've never had any hassle from scummers.

There really is nothing to worry about.

If she's looking for something to worry about, try the massive percentage of rape victims know their attackers.. Is she going to cut off all contact with her family and neighbours? No.

Just because isolated incidents get reported widely in the media, does not mean they are a daily occurrence for the general populous.

I don't think I can explain it any simpler than that..


(Is simpler a word?)

Chazz Michael Michaels

Gokei wrote: »

She's worried about getting accosted by roaming gangs of Dublin scum.

I'm saying in 35 years I've never had any hassle from scummers.

There really is nothing to worry about.

I'd she's looking for something to worry about, try the massive percentage of rape victims know their attackers.. Is she going to cut off all contact with her family and neighbours? No, just because isolated incidents get reported widely in the media, doors not mean they are a daily occurrence for the general populous.

I don't think I can explain it any simpler than that..

I don't read that in her posts at all!

Eoin247

Gokei wrote: »

My 90yr old Granny gets by in Dublin with no fear of scumbags.

As do my 2 children, and 6 nieces all under 10.

Maybe some self defense classes might help with your irrational fears op?

If you've never seen these scumbags you either don't live in dublin or you're one of them

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

we is the man yoo of the souf dahblin youse fackin' cantz

I heard Arnold Schwarzenegger for some reason lol

Gokei

Eoin247 wrote: »

If you've never seen these scumbags you either don't live in dublin or you're one of them

Reel in the personal abuse there Eoin. I never said anything about never seeing scummers, just that I've never had any hassle from them.

Have a quick re read there.

Eoin247

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Such as?

I've only been living in dublin for less than half a year and don't know the name of areas that well. But areas near Pearse Street and Connolly station come to mind. You don't have too walk too far behind the nice buildings like the convention center to see these working class areas.

A friend told me that there's some law in Dublin that there can't be big areas with just high or low economic classes in it. That's why you can walk suddenly from expensive townhouses into small old tenements.

Gokei

Eoin247 wrote: »

small old tenements.

I can safely inform you your friend is plain wrong.

Eoin247

Gokei wrote: »

Reel in the personal abuse there Eoin. I never said anything about never seeing scummers, just that I've never had any hassle from them.

Have a quick re read there.

Didn't mean to offend there, that's why i included the winky

However you must be extremely lucky (or a body builder?) if you have never been harassed verbally or physically and you live in Dublin long term. Pretty much everyone that i've ever talked about this to (provided that they have lived for a while in dublin) , has at least gotten some sort of verbal abuse and usually on public transport for some reason.

Gokei

Eoin247 wrote: »

Didn't mean to offend there, that's why i included the winky

However you must be extremely lucky (or a body builder?) if you have never been harassed verbally or physically and you live in Dublin long term. Pretty much everyone that i've ever talked about this to (provided that they have lived for a while in dublin) , has at least gotten some sort of verbal abuse and usually on public transport for some reason.

To be blunt I'm getting bored defending my posts against your second hand info.

Sunnyisland

Eoin247 wrote: »

Didn't mean to offend there, that's why i included the winky

However you must be extremely lucky (or a body builder?) if you have never been harassed verbally or physically and you live in Dublin long term. Pretty much everyone that i've ever talked about this to (provided that they have lived for a while in dublin) , has at least gotten some sort of verbal abuse and usually on public transport for some reason.

Not a body builder, so maybe just lucky , But never have had hassle in Dublin city centre anytime I have been there,which would be quite a lot.

Foxhound38

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Such as?

Dorset Street, North Circular Road, Sheriff Street, East Wall etc etc...

Foxhound38

Gokei wrote: »

She's worried about getting accosted by roaming gangs of Dublin scum.

I'm saying in 35 years I've never had any hassle from scummers.

There really is nothing to worry about.

If she's looking for something to worry about, try the massive percentage of rape victims know their attackers.. Is she going to cut off all contact with her family and neighbours? No.

Just because isolated incidents get reported widely in the media, does not mean they are a daily occurrence for the general populous.

I don't think I can explain it any simpler than that..


(Is simpler a word?)

I'm thinking you might be slightly misreading the tone of my OP there Gokei

Also, sit at the Abbey Street Luas stop for an hour and tell me with a straight face that Dublin has no scumbag problem :pac:

usersame

Admittedly I've never lived London but I'd like to offer that Limerick >Cork > Dublin

Your average Dublin scumbag has enough scumbag mates and scummy things to do to not care about the average person whereas in cork knackers exist only to cause hassle for the ordinary man, limerick bring worse than cork

usersame

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Dorset Street, North Circular Road, Sheriff Street, East Wall etc etc...

Most people are intimidated in those areas but it's unlikely anything would actually happen to a regular joe

blindside88

usersame wrote: »

Admittedly I've never lived London but I'd like to offer that Limerick >Cork > Dublin

Your average Dublin scumbag has enough scumbag mates and scummy things to do to not care about the average person whereas in cork knackers exist only to cause hassle for the ordinary man, limerick bring worse than cork

Careful now or you'll have willie o 'dea on here going mad

Foxhound38

usersame wrote: »

Most people are intimidated in those areas but it's unlikely anything would actually happen to a regular joe

I currently work on the NCR - it's as you say, safe (for the most part - the wits need to be kept about you). A good few scumbags, junkies and winos roaming around but the worst you tend to get in the day is the odd bit of verbal abuse if anything.

It is a working class area of the city centre though, which was the question and why I provided it as an example.

dd972

Funny to see this thread because it crossed my mind yesterday in Central London that I love Zone 1 and the better suburbs like Chiswick but loathe the outlying areas, the Enfield's, Greenford's and Ilford's.

In Dublin I'm completely the opposite, I hate town and love Clontarf, Howth, Booterstown, Dalkey etc.

I certainly don't miss the 'village idiot' psyche of Ireland ( Dublin included ) where seemingly everyone has a pre-conceived idea in their head about what a 'knacker' or a 'scumbag' or a 'quare' looks like, cosmopolitan cities like London, Madrid, Brussels or Berlin are too big time for that kind of s**t. Hassle and jibes from strangers are virtually non existent in London compared to Dublin.

Dublin City Centre is also worse because of the close proximity of disadvantaged areas to the main thoroughfares, London's low life like the 'Chelsea / West Ham fan' types or the post code urban street gang youths are easily avoided if you stay out of their pubs and areas and they're too marginalised to boss the vibe and atmosphere of the city.

5uspect

Dublin city center may as well be compared to a borough in London. You really can't compare the two directly. Dublin is a compact city with a visible junkie element in a significant part of the city centre due to this small size. London is sprawling with many central areas and surrounding boroughs. There are super affluent areas and there are run down areas. It's also far busier with many more people coming and going for a few scummers to be noticed.

I lived in West London for two years in a nice area and didn't see a single scumbag/chav/scrote except maybe late at night when a few of them went drinking during the summer by the river in Richmond. It was bliss, except for the rent.

Policing is much more heavy handed however. It is becoming something of a Police State over there.

podmu80

usersame wrote: »

Admittedly I've never lived London but I'd like to offer that Limerick >Cork > Dublin

Your average Dublin scumbag has enough scumbag mates and scummy things to do to not care about the average person whereas in cork knackers exist only to cause hassle for the ordinary man, limerick bring worse than cork

A scumbag in Dublin is no different to a scumbag in Cork or Limerick or anywhere else.
Pure nonsense to say Dublin scumbags keep to themselves, a higher class of scum if you will, and stay within the bounds of their own little community and leaving the general public be,but down south their out to get the ordinary Joe soap. Scum is scum regardless of location,no difference whatsoever.

Mint Aero

Red Kev wrote: »

Dublin is unusual

Yep

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVGOKaD7eSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unYlBWWZtDA

London 1 -0 Dublin :pac:

Thelonious

Sure all you'd want is a wet warm gee...

All ceminists are funts

The Dubs win this one with ease - the only time they'll beat London at anything.

BillyMitchel

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Such as?

All the flat complexes in and just outside. Dolphin House/Fatima is not even ten min walk. Thomas street/Meath street is more or less city centre. Deveney (sp) Gardens is city centre. Sheriff St. I could go on.

PersonallyI think they give character to the city. Some great people in these areas that make Dublin the great city it is.

Can't speak for London but Manchester had its fare share but I never witnessed anything. I think they just like to be loud and seen but mostly pretty harmless.

Innit Bruv

The One Who Knocks

We should round them up and send them all off to these work camps... then when they're too-....hang on,...wait a minute!