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Finding work in Dubai, UAE.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Cheers for the links!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    hey guys, fresh graduate here on my way out to Dubai in 2 weeks. havent enough cash to get an apartment so I will be looking for a roomshare. I have about a 1000 euro with me. Have had enough of Ireland so sink or swim is my motto.

    any advice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    hey guys, fresh graduate here on my way out to Dubai in 2 weeks. havent enough cash to get an apartment so I will be looking for a roomshare. I have about a 1000 euro with me. Have had enough of Ireland so sink or swim is my motto.

    any advice?

    Do you have a job sorted? I don't want to be a downer but 1000euro with nothing coming in wont go far here, have you looked at the cost of room sharing? google dubizzle What are you qualified as? If you have a job you will manage. When your looking for a place you'll need to be near a bus or metro so you can get around, taxi's are cheap but if you are using them to get every where it will add up quick. if i you dont have a job or a decent prospect i would suggest staying home and saving and look at coming out after ramadan. keep looking for a job, but things move so slowly even if you got offered something fast it could still take ages to get started and get paid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    hey guys, fresh graduate here on my way out to Dubai in 2 weeks. havent enough cash to get an apartment so I will be looking for a roomshare. I have about a 1000 euro with me. Have had enough of Ireland so sink or swim is my motto.

    any advice?

    My advice is don't do it unless you have a job lined up. You're a native-English-speaking west EU national, so it will be *almost* impossible for you to get a services job. And if you do find one, they most often pay under 1000 euros per month - often less than 700 euros per month.

    Your initial 1000 euro will probably dry up very, very quickly. Dubai is a very specialized economy; you generally can't just show up with a suitcase like you could in most other developed countries. To stay you will need a sponsor (i.e. an employer) and pass a medical test. I don't think it will matter much that you're a graduate, because in Dubai if someone wants to hire a professional, they generally hire someone with experience.

    If you do it, make sure you have the price of a plane ticket home so that you can bail if you have to.

    However, you could try the Irish Village for work - they have Irish staff...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    I will be looking for office based work or english teaching. I've been trying on Bayt.com since Christmas and no response from anyone so i think my best bet is showing up.

    I was trolling the Dubizzle site last night and there seems to be fairly cheap accommodation if you intend on sharing.

    1000 UED


    465 AED here

    500 here for 1 month

    One thing I don't understand is that someone from India, the Philipines or Pakistan, countries which are ten times poorer than Ireland, can show up in Dubai to work in security, catering, house keeping or constuction and can afford it?
    I take it these people aren't been 'flown out' for interviews and they seem to manage ok. Why is it much more difficult for an Irish person? I don't understand this reasoning.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    I will be looking for office based work or english teaching. I've been trying on Bayt.com since Christmas and no response from anyone so i think my best bet is showing up.

    Good luck, but I would urge extreme caution. I don't know any teacher who wasn't recruited from abroad. You are virtually certain to not find office work I'm afraid. Seriously.
    I was trolling the Dubizzle site last night and there seems to be fairly cheap accommodation if you intend on sharing.

    "Sharing" might mean 4 or 5 people in a spartan, smelly room with a few shower curtains thrown up for privacy. Westerners do not share - the folks who do that are, mainly, Indians, Pakistanis, Filipinos. Westerners are generally provided with a big fat housing allowance from their employers or they are provided with nice accommodation from the schools they work for. For prices like the ones advertised you will be like a sardine in a very small can in an undesirable area.

    One thing I don't understand is that someone from India, the Philipines or Pakistan, countries which are ten times poorer than Ireland, can show up in Dubai to work in security, catering, house keeping or constuction and can afford it?
    I take it these people aren't been 'flown out' for interviews and they seem to manage ok. Why is it much more difficult for an Irish person? I don't understand this reasoning.

    These people often have relatives already in Dubai who can support them while they seek work. Dubai is a racist city, let's be frank. Your passport and skin colour matters. Westerners are not in contention for security, catering, or housekeeping jobs. The people who do these jobs are generally from very poor countries where people can survive on a dollar a day. The little they manage to send back to their countries from Dubai goes a long way.

    I think you are potentially walking into a mini disaster if you follow through with your plan. If you want to teach in Dubai, try to find some Irish people who have done and build connections that way. You're quite possibly just wasting your time and money otherwise. You won't be hired in an office without substantial experience.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    The information you have been providing isn't consistent with the evidence i have found. Some of the suggestions you've made are incredibly stupid like it being unusual not to be hired from abroad.
    You talk as though Dubai is an exclusive club where everybody is flown out for interviews and given massive house when evidence suggest that there are room shares at a fraction of the price you have been suggesting and some recruiters do, like any other country, hire people residing in the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    The information you have been providing isn't consistent with the evidence i have found. Some of the suggestions you've made are incredibly stupid like it being unusual not to be hired from abroad.
    You talk as though Dubai is an exclusive club where everybody is flown out for interviews and given massive house when evidence suggest that there are room shares at a fraction of the price you have been suggesting and some recruiters do, like any other country, hire people residing in the country.

    Ok good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    You have asked for advice and you don't like it, fair enough, no need to get nasty. Good luck, you will need it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    The information you have been providing isn't consistent with the evidence i have found.

    I would be genuinely interested in the evidence you found.

    The fact that you are even considering looking for office work displays a spectacular lack of understanding of the way things work in the Middle East. The normal laws of economics and employment do not apply here (I'm not in Dubai, but I am in the Middle East). As others have told you, Westerners are typically hired in the mid- to high-end jobs.
    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    Some of the suggestions you've made are incredibly stupid like it being unusual not to be hired from abroad.

    Local hires do occur (see my initial post in this thread), however it depends on contacts, qualifications and experience. It is unusual to not be hired from abroad.
    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    evidence suggest that there are room shares at a fraction of the price you have been suggesting and some recruiters do, like any other country, hire people residing in the country.

    Think about it - some of the places you link to above are in the region of 100 Euro a month (500 AED is approx 100 Euro). Think what you get in Ireland for that price. Now think about what you would get for that in a country with very underdeveloped legal systems, low building standards, little or no inspection regimes, evasive landlords and an incredibly contemptuous attitude to those on the bottom of the social ladder (i.e. those that might be in a position to afford such rents).

    You sound like a smart guy. Do I really have to suggest that you do not take everything you read on the internet at face value?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Chronically Bad Farts


    Trust me, everything that has been said here is accurate and is coming from people who have lived there.
    Dubai is a very unique place, you don't fly there & look for work like you would Canada or Australia. Think of it more as a company rather than a country.
    The Asian folk that do just show up live in extreme squalor.
    You WILL NOT get unskilled casual work.
    Everything is always prearranged, including permits & accommodation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    So whats the minimum I should bring with me then eh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    A fiver in your arse pocket and you'll be grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Hi, not sure if I'm posting in the correct place by resurrecting an old thread.

    I want to make the move to Dubai or Abu Dhabi as I need a change. I'm thinking from a funds perspective to apply for a few jobs in UAE and conduct interviews via Skype if possible only moving out in the instance I get a concrete offer. Is this doable?

    On my background, I'm a 29 yr old Business Analyst specialising in working with software developers and implementation into companies with 3 years experience. I also hold a Accounting and Finance Degree with 9 ACCA's. Additionally I have my own IT consultancy here in Ireland. Based on the above are my prospects of obtaining a position in UAE good?

    This is my first point of research so please any advice is welcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Hi, not sure if I'm posting in the correct place by resurrecting an old thread.

    I want to make the move to Dubai or Abu Dhabi as I need a change. I'm thinking from a funds perspective to apply for a few jobs in UAE and conduct interviews via Skype if possible only moving out in the instance I get a concrete offer. Is this doable?

    On my background, I'm a 29 yr old Business Analyst specialising in working with software developers and implementation into companies with 3 years experience. I also hold a Accounting and Finance Degree with 9 ACCA's. Additionally I have my own IT consultancy here in Ireland. Based on the above are my prospects of obtaining a position in UAE good?

    This is my first point of research so please any advice is welcome.

    Good plans and good prospects I'd say. Try the multinational software companies (Oracle, SAP, IBM, Google, Accenture, etc.) Apply from abroad or contact Dubai-based in-house recruiters on LinkedIn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Anyone got any links for searching for jobs / best place to get started?

    Insurance industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    Corvo wrote: »
    Anyone got any links for searching for jobs / best place to get started?

    Insurance industry.
    Not sure if there is anything suitable but they have an insurance section. Best of luck
    http://frgr.org/


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