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Finding work in Dubai, UAE.

  • 07-01-2014 12:26pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18


    Whats the best way to get a job Dubai? In the past three weeks I have applied for about 40 jobs but haven't yet received a response just emails confirming my application.

    Is it better to go out there get accommodation and start looking or better to find one online first?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    K ninja wrote: »
    Is it better to go out there get accommodation and start looking

    In short, yes.

    You will find that face-to-face interaction is valued significantly more than an anonymous submission on a website.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18 K ninja


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    In short, yes.

    You will find that face-to-face interaction is valued significantly more than an anonymous submission on a website.

    Thanks Tom. I was having a look at the visa situation if i decided to do this and some websites advised against it because you would find yourself in a position without a work visa which would mean searching for jobs on a tourist one.

    Would employers be willing to sponsor you there aswel if that was the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    K ninja wrote: »
    Whats the best way to get a job Dubai? In the past three weeks I have applied for about 40 jobs but haven't yet received a response just emails confirming my application.

    Is it better to go out there get accommodation and start looking or better to find one online first?

    Thanks

    Accommodation can be quite expensive in the Gulf so I think you should definitely look online first. When I moved to Doha, my initial interviews were all done over Skype and after I accepted the role my employer paid for my flight over and for a month's rent when I got settled in. That's not unusual either.

    What kind of job are you looking for?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18 K ninja


    Accommodation can be quite expensive in the Gulf so I think you should definitely look online first. When I moved to Doha, my initial interviews were all done over Skype and after I accepted the role my employer paid for my flight over and for a month's rent when I got settled in. That's not unusual either.

    What kind of job are you looking for?

    Finance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    K ninja wrote: »
    Finance

    Well definitely stay where you are for now. Whatever employer you end up with will happily pay for your flight, accommodation (at least initially, I'd expect), and get to work on sorting out your visa once you arrive. It's par for the course in the Gulf to conduct Skype interviews with hires from the West rather than face-to-face. Also, rent is expensive out here (mine is over €1000 per month) so taking a flight and waiting around will just burn a hole in your pocket.

    As for the role you're looking for, my advice would be to use the advanced job search within LinkedIn and select 'UAE', then make a few different searches with whichever relevant keywords until you find what's available. Don't rule out Abu Dhabi either; very nice close by and similarly built up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Suckler


    http://www.irishbusinessnetwork.me/ - try going through this group; very active and well connected members.

    There is a similiar group in Abu dhabi - The Irish business Council

    Both cities have Irish societies also that would be useful to make contact with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    If you are thinking of moving out without a job you will need a serious whack of savings, short term accom is expensive and its high season at the moment (as its not crazy hot) You cant take a lease on an apartment without a residents visa, but you can rent a car, you just need to show your visit visa stamp. Do you have friends living there that might be able to put you up for a bit?

    As someone that moved out on spec (3yrs ago) it can be very hard i interviewed for my current role the week I arrived and between getting offered the job and starting it took three months. My other half took almost 8 months to get a proper job with a visa. In all honestly we are doing well now but those first few months were hard going and not knowing how it will go will can be hard on you mentally. Things can move very slowly, just be prepared. If you are coming make sure its well before ramadan as anyone with hiring power will be most likely be on leave then (july this year)

    Don't pay fees to any recruitment agent its illegal.
    Unfortunately they work for companies not people so unless you are suitable for a role they have, they wont really respond. Lack of GCC experience can be a factor but international experience can negate this somewhat.

    Companies will generally only hire western expats for more senior roles. Banks have quiet high requirements for hiring locals due to current government policy but for other companies it is not as high so might be best to look in other areas.

    Good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    In short, yes.

    You will find that face-to-face interaction is valued significantly more than an anonymous submission on a website.

    I strongly disagree with this. Dubai isn't a place where someone should just move to on the off-chance that they might land a decent job. I don't even think it's possible to rent a *nice* place unless you have a employment visa. Note also that rents are usually payable in 4, 2, or 1 cheque, so you need to have a UAE chequebook and you can't get one of those unless you're a resident. Of course, you could probably house-share, but I wouldn't recommend it at all.

    For the UAE in general, if a company wants to hire you from the west, they'll conduct video interviews with you. If they hire you, they'll fly you here, give you a housing allowance up-front, and put you up in a hotel for a few weeks while you try to find a place to live.

    You should not accept any job that doesn't offer the following allowances:
    • Transport
    • Housing
    • Annual Flight Tickets to home country for you and your dependents
    • Education Allowance for your kids
    • Medical insurance for you and your dependents

    If you're single, obviously the education allowance probably isn't important. But many people move to Dubai with the intention of staying for 2 or 3 years and end up married.

    The minimum housing allowance you should accept is 90,000 AED per year (about 18k euro).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    FURET wrote: »
    I strongly disagree with this. Dubai isn't a place where someone should just move to on the off-chance that they might land a decent job. I don't even think it's possible to rent a *nice* place unless you have a employment visa. Note also that rents are usually payable in 4, 2, or 1 cheque, so you need to have a UAE chequebook and you can't get one of those unless you're a resident. Of course, you could probably house-share, but I wouldn't recommend it at all.

    For the UAE in general, if a company wants to hire you from the west, they'll conduct video interviews with you. If they hire you, they'll fly you here, give you a housing allowance up-front, and put you up in a hotel for a few weeks while you try to find a place to live.

    You should not accept any job that doesn't offer the following allowances:
    • Transport
    • Housing
    • Annual Flight Tickets to home country for you and your dependents
    • Education Allowance for your kids
    • Medical insurance for you and your dependents

    If you're single, obviously the education allowance probably isn't important. But many people move to Dubai with the intention of staying for 2 or 3 years and end up married.

    The minimum housing allowance you should accept is 90,000 AED per year (about 18k euro).


    Just to add to this, while allowances are all well and good, make sure to get a big basic as this is what your end of service benefit is generally based on. There are little or no pensions here so this is the lump sum you are working for. Must companies offer total packages now and just break it down into the above. 90kaed will get you a one bed in an ok area and maybe a 2 bed further out, but prices are rocketing up at the moment. if you manage to get a housing allowance paid directly by the company on top of your salary you are on a winner.

    Be careful what you agree to on holidays, the labour law is 30 calenders days which means your weekends are counted when you take time off as in a long weekend with 2 work days off is 4days out of your holiday allowance. Not all companies do this but its something to be aware of.

    I def agree with trying to get hired from home, it will take longer but will be worth it in the long run, they will pay towards your move out and if you are still with them when you move home they will pay towards your moving home also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 B25


    Anyone know of any agricultural work going in Dubai for Summer 2014. Im a 3rd year Ag Sc student and would love the chance of getting experience in Dubai. I am really interested in anything to do with Dairy especially maybe in a Dairy Processing Plant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭ratzy


    Hi don't mean to hijack the thread but i was just wondering if anybody could give me some feed back on wages in Dubai i am a hotel management student and i am hoping to go out to Dubai or Abu Dhabi for a 6month work placement all feed back would be greatly appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    ratzy wrote: »
    Hi don't mean to hijack the thread but i was just wondering if anybody could give me some feed back on wages in Dubai i am a hotel management student and i am hoping to go out to Dubai or Abu Dhabi for a 6month work placement all feed back would be greatly appreciated.

    I doubt you would get taken on for a work placement as they would have to pay for a full visa for you. (You have to have a residence visa to work) I haven't clue about wages but The Jumeirah Hotel group have a lot of irish people at management level, so they might be worth a go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    B25 wrote: »
    Anyone know of any agricultural work going in Dubai for Summer 2014. Im a 3rd year Ag Sc student and would love the chance of getting experience in Dubai. I am really interested in anything to do with Dairy especially maybe in a Dairy Processing Plant.

    Some Irish working in Al Ain Dairy, Almarai is the other main supplier also some Irish but Saudi based. I doubt you would get summer work for visa reasons see my other post. Still worth looking into though. Get in touch with Bord Bia, Gulf food fair will be on in two weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    seachto7 wrote: »

    Dubai is not as equality-minded as the west, to put it mildly. But the author of that piece has since been discredited and suspended by his employer, and awards he was given were withdrawn, for falsifying the stuff he puts in his articles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 B25


    Thanks for that Wuffly. Will give it a go a see how I get on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    FURET wrote: »
    Dubai is not as equality-minded as the west, to put it mildly. But the author of that piece has since been discredited and suspended by his employer, and awards he was given were withdrawn, for falsifying the stuff he puts in his articles.

    How much of the article is false though, that's what I'd like to know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    seachto7 wrote: »
    How much of the article is false though, that's what I'd like to know.

    Parts of it ring true but much of it really does not. Many construction workers are badly treated by the companies they work for - though not all are. Maids are also often treated badly, reputedly most often by Arab bosses. But it's not institutional. It's not accepted. It goes on behind closed doors. Also, a lot of the misery experienced by some Indian workers is at the hands of their fellow Indians (the caste system may be a factor).

    One problem is that Dubai is on the doorsteps of India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan - countries with enormous populations and egregious poverty levels. Many come to Dubai and have no skills, or at least no skills that are rare. They're paid very low wages as a result. The governments of some countries like the Philippines have successfully lobbied the UAE government to impose minimum standards of employment for their nationals.

    The situation is improving and the Emiratis in general are a very progressive people. You have to remember that 40 years ago, the country was an illiterate wasteland. But now, to quote wikipedia:
    In 2013, the Norway-based Global Network for Rights and Development (GNRD) released its annual International Human Rights Indicator (IHRRI) report that ranks the United Arab Emirates first among Arab countries and 14th globally for respecting human rights. The next Arab country on the list, Tunisia, was ranked at 72. The UAE was also ranked six spots ahead of the United States which was placed 20th overall. To acquire its 14th position, the UAE fared well across 21 individual categories, performing best in the education category with a 94 per cent finish for ensuring top education for all children.

    The above statement surprised me quite a bit but not as much as one might expect on an initial reading. I don't know how reliable the results are. After investigating who the Global Network for Rights and Development are, I'm inclined to skepticism.

    I am often shocked by the low levels of pay and some of the employment restrictions and rights of the underclass here. I am unashamedly looking through privileged western eyes. One of the things I've learned here is how atypical the western perspective on things is. My wife is Filipino and is far less shocked than I am about things like low pay. In her country, many people get by on less 100 euro per month and live in shacks (while others are perfectly middle class and can afford whatever a westerner can). Such poor people get to earn much more than that in Dubai, but it's still pathetic in my opinion. The problem is that there are hundreds of thousands of low-skilled workers here and economically speaking, they're just not valuable. Also, in many non-western countries, huge inequality simply does not shock people like it does in the west. And you have to remember that almost everyone in Dubai is non-western.

    All of the western expats I know are decent to the low-paid workers we encounter (security guards, building maintenance, waiters, shop assistants) and tend to tip very generously. There is almost never an opportunity to interact directly with the construction workers.

    I did meet one fellow once near where I live and he politely asked if I had any panadol. He was working in the heat so I nipped to the grocery and got him a packet of painkillers, a bottle of water, an ice-cream, and a kit-kat. A friend of mine made friends with the Nepali security guard in my building and helped him buy a laptop for his daughter back home. He also set up an email address for him and helped him apply for jobs online. It's also common for office professionals to do a monthly collection for the office cleaners etc by passing an envelope around.

    Whenever I do see openly dickish behavior towards the underclass, I'm sorry to say it, but it comes from rich Asians or Arabs lording it over their staff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    I had thought about looking for a job in Dubai when college was done, simply for the reason that I could earn a bit more money, so could start saving some cash. Maybe stick it out for a year or so. Other than that, the thoughts of going there don't appeal to me.
    I often get the impression it's just a bling bling place. "We don't have 5 star hotels! We have 6 star hotels!!". I'm not interested in bigger, better, richer, fastest, most luxurious, money money money etc etc.

    But I contradict myself saying I'd go there just to save some cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I had thought about looking for a job in Dubai when college was done, simply for the reason that I could earn a bit more money, so could start saving some cash. Maybe stick it out for a year or so. Other than that, the thoughts of going there don't appeal to me.
    I often get the impression it's just a bling bling place. "We don't have 5 star hotels! We have 6 star hotels!!". I'm not interested in bigger, better, richer, fastest, most luxurious, money money money etc etc.

    But I contradict myself saying I'd go there just to save some cash.

    Like anywhere Dubai is what you make it, its not all bling bling 7star hotels. The salaries are tax free but you work hard for them, i dont know anyone that doesn't work over time or is constantly on call via a blackberry, except for teachers. The work ethic and expectation is very different here. There are tons of out door activities in the winter, water sports, dune bashing, hiking, running, etc... Plus the middle east and far east are on your door step if you want to travel. There is plenty of culture here if you choose to look for it, Dubai might have sprung up over night but people were living here for a long time before they discovered oil. It would be hard to save money in a year, getting set up takes time and money. And to be honest companies aren't looking for graduate expats they want people with experience for senior roles. Unless you are a teacher.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭sawdoubters


    what job are you looking for


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    There's plenty of bling in Dubai but as wuffly says, you don't have to drink it up. It melts into the background for me. I enjoy the beach and eating out - those are my two main activities in Dubai.

    I'd agree that the initial year is costly. It all depends on your circumstance. I work in IT and wanted to settle here for several years, so I got my own apartment, furnished it, and bought a new car outright. I also got married in Ireland (very small wedding, no bling!), then 30 days later we had to go to the Philippines because my wife's dad died suddenly. So it was a fairly expensive year. I still managed to clear a college debt of 7k euro and save around 10k euro, while being debt free. Still, that figure was under target by a long shot.

    This year, now that that's all behind me, we'll be able to save around 40k euro from my salary plus a bit more from my wife's. The key is to live fairly modestly. A lot of expats act like kids in sweetshops. They splurge on rental apartments close to the beach (paying twice what they really need to), they go waaay overboard and buy luxury or sports cars, travel abroad every second weekend, and do loads of bungee and parachute jumps. A lot of them then have large credit card bills and grumble about not being able to save. I mean if you're going to Dubai explicitly to live like that, fine. But if, like most expats, you go there to save, then a bit of maturity is required.

    My wife and I don't have kids and live very comfortably on around 600 euro per month each after bills and rent etc - and we save most of the rest (though we do two big holidays each year).

    I'd also tend to agree with wuffly that if you're a fresh graduate it's very hard to get a job here unless your game is teaching. I am trying to encourage my 22-year-old brother to come over for two years after he graduates so that he can earn a bit of money and see some of the world. I calculate he could save around 20k euro in two years if he played his cards right.

    For other roles, I agree it's best to be senior. I was unbelievably lucky and was recruited from Ireland with only 15 months' experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    what job are you looking for

    I will (hopefully) have a journalism masters in the summer, but I have been working in online markering for the last 6+ years, so hopefully can combine the 2. I also worked as a technical writer for a while, and ironically a TEFL teacher for a few years.

    I'm late 30s, so while I would be a graduate, I wouldn't be "officially" a graduate...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I will (hopefully) have a journalism masters in the summer, but I have been working in online markering for the last 6+ years, so hopefully can combine the 2. I also worked as a technical writer for a while, and ironically a TEFL teacher for a few years.

    I'm late 30s, so while I would be a graduate, I wouldn't be "officially" a graduate...

    Realistically looking for work as a journalist will take time, a friend used to work as a photographer for the gulf news, and she started working here as a teacher, then for a small magazine. It's unlikely you'd get a journalist role without any experience of the region. I've seen some proof reading jobs which would be a good stepping stone. If i see anything i will post it on here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭sawdoubters


    the middle east does not like journalist

    http://www.indeed.ae/Journalist-jobs-in-Dubai


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    the middle east does not like journalist

    http://www.indeed.ae/Journalist-jobs-in-Dubai

    I don't see your point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    the middle east does not like journalist

    http://www.indeed.ae/Journalist-jobs-in-Dubai
    Jesus, well over one thousand posts and you only joined a month ago!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I will (hopefully) have a journalism masters in the summer, but I have been working in online markering for the last 6+ years, so hopefully can combine the 2. I also worked as a technical writer for a while, and ironically a TEFL teacher for a few years.

    I'm late 30s, so while I would be a graduate, I wouldn't be "officially" a graduate...

    I'm a tech writer. There aren't many of us in the UAE, but of those who are here, most seem to be Indian. I suspect that salaries depend hugely on the company, ranging from high to low. There seems to be a lot of online marketing jobs, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    I wouldn't expect it to be easy to find a job as a journalist easy to get anywhere in the world, not to mind Dubai. I'll have to try and combine my skills if at all possible.

    I'm hoping to steer clear of 100% online marketing. As an old boss used to say: "You're not the right fit."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    http://www.gncareers.com/jobs/content-writer-dubai-61969312-d?contextType=browse

    not sure what the salary is like, gulf news is a good place to look. There are a lot of marketing companies with their middle east base in dubai, they wont all be online/telemarketing jobs you just have to wade through the crap. leo burnett, weber shandwick, hill & knowlton, dabo & co, working with any of these would get you local exp and connections and help you move into journalism, its not all fluff my friend did war correspondence for the gulf news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Cheers for the links!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    hey guys, fresh graduate here on my way out to Dubai in 2 weeks. havent enough cash to get an apartment so I will be looking for a roomshare. I have about a 1000 euro with me. Have had enough of Ireland so sink or swim is my motto.

    any advice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    hey guys, fresh graduate here on my way out to Dubai in 2 weeks. havent enough cash to get an apartment so I will be looking for a roomshare. I have about a 1000 euro with me. Have had enough of Ireland so sink or swim is my motto.

    any advice?

    Do you have a job sorted? I don't want to be a downer but 1000euro with nothing coming in wont go far here, have you looked at the cost of room sharing? google dubizzle What are you qualified as? If you have a job you will manage. When your looking for a place you'll need to be near a bus or metro so you can get around, taxi's are cheap but if you are using them to get every where it will add up quick. if i you dont have a job or a decent prospect i would suggest staying home and saving and look at coming out after ramadan. keep looking for a job, but things move so slowly even if you got offered something fast it could still take ages to get started and get paid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    hey guys, fresh graduate here on my way out to Dubai in 2 weeks. havent enough cash to get an apartment so I will be looking for a roomshare. I have about a 1000 euro with me. Have had enough of Ireland so sink or swim is my motto.

    any advice?

    My advice is don't do it unless you have a job lined up. You're a native-English-speaking west EU national, so it will be *almost* impossible for you to get a services job. And if you do find one, they most often pay under 1000 euros per month - often less than 700 euros per month.

    Your initial 1000 euro will probably dry up very, very quickly. Dubai is a very specialized economy; you generally can't just show up with a suitcase like you could in most other developed countries. To stay you will need a sponsor (i.e. an employer) and pass a medical test. I don't think it will matter much that you're a graduate, because in Dubai if someone wants to hire a professional, they generally hire someone with experience.

    If you do it, make sure you have the price of a plane ticket home so that you can bail if you have to.

    However, you could try the Irish Village for work - they have Irish staff...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    I will be looking for office based work or english teaching. I've been trying on Bayt.com since Christmas and no response from anyone so i think my best bet is showing up.

    I was trolling the Dubizzle site last night and there seems to be fairly cheap accommodation if you intend on sharing.

    1000 UED


    465 AED here

    500 here for 1 month

    One thing I don't understand is that someone from India, the Philipines or Pakistan, countries which are ten times poorer than Ireland, can show up in Dubai to work in security, catering, house keeping or constuction and can afford it?
    I take it these people aren't been 'flown out' for interviews and they seem to manage ok. Why is it much more difficult for an Irish person? I don't understand this reasoning.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    I will be looking for office based work or english teaching. I've been trying on Bayt.com since Christmas and no response from anyone so i think my best bet is showing up.

    Good luck, but I would urge extreme caution. I don't know any teacher who wasn't recruited from abroad. You are virtually certain to not find office work I'm afraid. Seriously.
    I was trolling the Dubizzle site last night and there seems to be fairly cheap accommodation if you intend on sharing.

    "Sharing" might mean 4 or 5 people in a spartan, smelly room with a few shower curtains thrown up for privacy. Westerners do not share - the folks who do that are, mainly, Indians, Pakistanis, Filipinos. Westerners are generally provided with a big fat housing allowance from their employers or they are provided with nice accommodation from the schools they work for. For prices like the ones advertised you will be like a sardine in a very small can in an undesirable area.

    One thing I don't understand is that someone from India, the Philipines or Pakistan, countries which are ten times poorer than Ireland, can show up in Dubai to work in security, catering, house keeping or constuction and can afford it?
    I take it these people aren't been 'flown out' for interviews and they seem to manage ok. Why is it much more difficult for an Irish person? I don't understand this reasoning.

    These people often have relatives already in Dubai who can support them while they seek work. Dubai is a racist city, let's be frank. Your passport and skin colour matters. Westerners are not in contention for security, catering, or housekeeping jobs. The people who do these jobs are generally from very poor countries where people can survive on a dollar a day. The little they manage to send back to their countries from Dubai goes a long way.

    I think you are potentially walking into a mini disaster if you follow through with your plan. If you want to teach in Dubai, try to find some Irish people who have done and build connections that way. You're quite possibly just wasting your time and money otherwise. You won't be hired in an office without substantial experience.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    The information you have been providing isn't consistent with the evidence i have found. Some of the suggestions you've made are incredibly stupid like it being unusual not to be hired from abroad.
    You talk as though Dubai is an exclusive club where everybody is flown out for interviews and given massive house when evidence suggest that there are room shares at a fraction of the price you have been suggesting and some recruiters do, like any other country, hire people residing in the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    The information you have been providing isn't consistent with the evidence i have found. Some of the suggestions you've made are incredibly stupid like it being unusual not to be hired from abroad.
    You talk as though Dubai is an exclusive club where everybody is flown out for interviews and given massive house when evidence suggest that there are room shares at a fraction of the price you have been suggesting and some recruiters do, like any other country, hire people residing in the country.

    Ok good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    You have asked for advice and you don't like it, fair enough, no need to get nasty. Good luck, you will need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    The information you have been providing isn't consistent with the evidence i have found.

    I would be genuinely interested in the evidence you found.

    The fact that you are even considering looking for office work displays a spectacular lack of understanding of the way things work in the Middle East. The normal laws of economics and employment do not apply here (I'm not in Dubai, but I am in the Middle East). As others have told you, Westerners are typically hired in the mid- to high-end jobs.
    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    Some of the suggestions you've made are incredibly stupid like it being unusual not to be hired from abroad.

    Local hires do occur (see my initial post in this thread), however it depends on contacts, qualifications and experience. It is unusual to not be hired from abroad.
    ormeau 1 wrote: »
    evidence suggest that there are room shares at a fraction of the price you have been suggesting and some recruiters do, like any other country, hire people residing in the country.

    Think about it - some of the places you link to above are in the region of 100 Euro a month (500 AED is approx 100 Euro). Think what you get in Ireland for that price. Now think about what you would get for that in a country with very underdeveloped legal systems, low building standards, little or no inspection regimes, evasive landlords and an incredibly contemptuous attitude to those on the bottom of the social ladder (i.e. those that might be in a position to afford such rents).

    You sound like a smart guy. Do I really have to suggest that you do not take everything you read on the internet at face value?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Chronically Bad Farts


    Trust me, everything that has been said here is accurate and is coming from people who have lived there.
    Dubai is a very unique place, you don't fly there & look for work like you would Canada or Australia. Think of it more as a company rather than a country.
    The Asian folk that do just show up live in extreme squalor.
    You WILL NOT get unskilled casual work.
    Everything is always prearranged, including permits & accommodation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 ormeau 1


    So whats the minimum I should bring with me then eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,048 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    A fiver in your arse pocket and you'll be grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Hi, not sure if I'm posting in the correct place by resurrecting an old thread.

    I want to make the move to Dubai or Abu Dhabi as I need a change. I'm thinking from a funds perspective to apply for a few jobs in UAE and conduct interviews via Skype if possible only moving out in the instance I get a concrete offer. Is this doable?

    On my background, I'm a 29 yr old Business Analyst specialising in working with software developers and implementation into companies with 3 years experience. I also hold a Accounting and Finance Degree with 9 ACCA's. Additionally I have my own IT consultancy here in Ireland. Based on the above are my prospects of obtaining a position in UAE good?

    This is my first point of research so please any advice is welcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Hi, not sure if I'm posting in the correct place by resurrecting an old thread.

    I want to make the move to Dubai or Abu Dhabi as I need a change. I'm thinking from a funds perspective to apply for a few jobs in UAE and conduct interviews via Skype if possible only moving out in the instance I get a concrete offer. Is this doable?

    On my background, I'm a 29 yr old Business Analyst specialising in working with software developers and implementation into companies with 3 years experience. I also hold a Accounting and Finance Degree with 9 ACCA's. Additionally I have my own IT consultancy here in Ireland. Based on the above are my prospects of obtaining a position in UAE good?

    This is my first point of research so please any advice is welcome.

    Good plans and good prospects I'd say. Try the multinational software companies (Oracle, SAP, IBM, Google, Accenture, etc.) Apply from abroad or contact Dubai-based in-house recruiters on LinkedIn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Anyone got any links for searching for jobs / best place to get started?

    Insurance industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭wuffly


    Corvo wrote: »
    Anyone got any links for searching for jobs / best place to get started?

    Insurance industry.
    Not sure if there is anything suitable but they have an insurance section. Best of luck
    http://frgr.org/


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