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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Past30Now


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    It was noticeable too that we played with 2 sweepers at times so it appears as though a bit of thought is going into the defensive side of things early on.

    Happy New Year all. It was great to get out for a match.

    Maynooth were very limited, and looked like they had barely played together, which should be a comment reserved for a Dublin 3rd string side. It was a disappointing goal to give away, but other than that moment, we did OK. Our senior players looked comfortable, but Dean Rock could have done a lot more for the forwards around him. There were at least three occasions when he could have played a clever pass into one of Dawson or Collins instead of having a lash from 35 yards out. He miles ahead of those guys in terms of a place, but I thought he was too selfish.

    Our half backs barely crossed the half way line throughout the match, which seems to be a response to the match vs Donegal. Delighted to see Graham Hannigan line out for the Dubs. He's our third clubman to play a senior match for the county, and has bags of potential.

    It will be significantly harder against Offaly on Wednesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Happy New Year .. yeah that's pretty much what I saw too yesterday. Maynooth look like they're using their 1st go at the O'Byrne Cup as a "getting to know you" exercise for the Sigerson later on - John Cotter as good as said they decided to park the bus to keep the scoreline in check.

    Micky Fitz wouldn't have been too happy with his all round performance on Dardis and the goal sorta reinforced that notion too. There's a wider family connection to Graham Hannigan so much like yerself I was delighted to see the young lad get a run.

    For a big chap you would've thought that Dawson would be far more comfortable under a high ball around the square, but he has shown in the past and again yesterday that he has the ability to win low ball out in front of his marker. I'm sorta reminded as to where Danny Watson has gone after a spectacular introduction in the O'Byrne Cup last year v Louth (what a horrible night that was weather wise).

    I think we keep the same panel now for the remaining games in the cup, but I'd like to see the likes of Davey Byrne (Olafs playing OBC with UCD) get a run down the road - the lad has bags of potential but seemed to suffer a little last year in the adjustment to the senior set up. As for Wednesday, I'm sure Deegan and Dunleavy will see some action

    It's unfortunate really that as you say this is a 3rd string set up and in truth the lads will struggle to make a impact even in the early stages of the league but outside the established players yesterday I think the likes of Small, O'Conghaile, Carthy, Dawson & Collins are keepers for the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    I'm sorta reminded as to where Danny Watson has gone after a spectacular introduction in the O'Byrne Cup last year v Louth (what a horrible night that was weather wise).

    Where indeed, the weather was poxy but his performance wasn't. Not the only time he did the business for us last year either but he wasn't heard from again unfortunately.

    I wasn't able to make the match but I'll make the next one and get a good look at some up and comers though I reckon the best chance to see them in the coming year will be with their respective clubs, the first team (at least for the league) is probably fairly set at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Merry New Year Fellow Dubs. This is the year that Sam returns to his rightful home in our glorious capital. I can feel it in my bones. :D
    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Well 4 days into the new year and an O'Byrne cup game against a poor Maynooth was never gonna inspire a gushing match report. It was a poor game all told against extremely limited opposition. The usual mish mash of early season football mistakes, poor passing and woeful shooting with Dean Rock being the main culprit. As with every season the problem area of midfield reared its head again. It was the one area Maynooth competed and held the upper hand until Shane Carthy moved there and exerted a little influence.

    I'd agree with that. Dean Rock looks to me, like someone who is feeling the pressure of 98,475 other forwards breathing down his neck. Perhaps he is over eager to make a good impression & rack up big scores. There were signs of it at that charity game up in Belfast last month. Some of the wides he kicked there were atrocious too. I think he'd stand a better chance of nailing down a jersey, if he'd just relax a bit, let the game come to him and look for the chance to pass more, instead of the opportunity to shoot. Still, that's easy for me to say, I'm not the one with the 98,475 other forwards breathing down my neck ! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Where indeed, the weather was poxy but his performance wasn't. Not the only time he did the business for us last year either but he wasn't heard from again unfortunately.

    I wasn't able to make the match but I'll make the next one and get a good look at some up and comers though I reckon the best chance to see them in the coming year will be with their respective clubs, the first team (at least for the league) is probably fairly set at this stage.

    Yeah I rarely get over to the badlands (Southside) for Senior games so the promising young lads in Judes, Annes etc tend to escape me. I did however happen upon Watson 3-4 years ago when they ran a football challenge in Innisfails over a weekend.

    I might be talking out me blowhole but there were 4-5 teams brought together (we were represented on Fingal team) - Watson was a rugged type in the mould of Vinny Murphy/McNally and more than held his own. In saying that he's not a "young" lad - I'm guessing 28/29 now so more than likely he's had literally his 15 mins - but what a 15 mins in fairness - I tend to forget he also missed a 3rd goal chance that day that was easier than the 2 he scored ..
    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Merry New Year Fellow Dubs. This is the year that Sam returns to his rightful home in our glorious capital. I can feel it in my bones. :D


    I'd agree with that. Dean Rock looks to me, like someone who is feeling the pressure of 98,475 other forwards breathing down his neck. Perhaps he is over eager to make a good impression & rack up big scores. There were signs of it at that charity game up in Belfast last month. Some of the wides he kicked there were atrocious too. I think he'd stand a better chance of nailing down a jersey, if he'd just relax a bit, let the game come to him and look for the chance to pass more, instead of the opportunity to shoot. Still, that's easy for me to say, I'm not the one with the 98,475 other forwards breathing down my neck ! :rolleyes:

    There was a prevailing opinion not just in Dublin but in general that they were virtually a shoe-in for the AI - I personally thought Dublin were 3-5 points better than any other team in Ireland last year with the possible exception of Mayo and we don't need to look very far to see how that turned out :rolleyes: ....all due respect to Donegal the door swung open and they ran straight in, at the end there wasn't even a door, it had come off the hinges around 55 minute mark ... in the latter part of last year there were a number of unbeatables beaten - All Blacks v South Africa, Real Madrid in near enough the opening game of the season and The Grey Gatsby turning over Australia - the fact with most of these upsets is that they can be rectified in a very short time, but not Dublin and the mere fact that it's gonna be 9 months in the waiting makes it that little bit more uncertain .. so yeah there's definetely an overwhelming feeling of unfinished business.

    Dean Rocks play would be a frustrating situation if it was happening at the business end of the year - but I'd near enough guarantee, when Flynn, DC, Brogan are around him and in his ear that the correct decisions will be made - it is slightly frustrating for the lads like Dawson & Collins looking to make an impression to see wastefull ball - on the otherhand he wouldn't need to be told how poor his place kicking was last week, irrespective of the context of the game. I'd be confident that Dean will eradicate that aspect fairly quickly.

    Tonights game has all the hallmarks of another OBC v Louth match - howling gale out there at the minute just need some driving rain now to totally ruin the night ... I'll be there ..... thoughts and moans tomoorow :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭davidfitz22


    I really hope we can avoid Dublin this year, we would be on the end of an unmerciful backlash from last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Currie in goals, Dunleavy mid, Scully TSS wing frwd and Philly Ryan in da corner are the changes from weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Past30Now


    I'm getting soft and allowed myself to be talked out of going last night. Followed it on twitter and it looked like a good workout. Any stand out performances?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    The great thing about being a Brogan, Flynn or MDM is knowing that you won't be called upon this early in the year to display your worth on a wintry evening in January. The lads that had to answer the call last night were asked to make the proverbial silk purse.

    Don't get me wrong this was a lot better game than it had the right to be and credit for that must go to a very hard working Offaly team. They certainly started with a good bit of confidence after the Laois result at the weekend (diminished somewhat by the hammering Laois took off Maynooth last night) but their movement was very good, the 2 corner lads had plenty to work off early on and the 11 (Carroll) kept at it the whole night. In fairness to them even when Philly Ryan got our noses in front the Offaly lads kept at it and it was really only apparent in the last 10 mins or so that they were starting to lose their way and running out of ideas.

    I don't know how objective you can be analysing lads playing for a Dublin team rather than The Dublin team. But for what it's worth I thought Rock had an excellent game - probably in the same way you'd give a minor player MOTM in an U14 game, his all round play was a step up on last week and his fielding was very good too, I'd be happy with the contribution too for the other established players Devereaux & Brady.

    Of the lads looking to put down a marker I'd whisper it quietly but I saw enough of O'Conghaile last night to make me think that he's on the verge of a step up to the championship panel. Even this early in the year he looks to have boundless energy, sharp around the tackle, elegant ball carrier and scored a sweet point too.

    There's been a lot of positive talk about Niall Scully and he showed glimpses of some good basic skills last night, but as my young lad said to me "he's a bit of a DIY'er" and was prone to taking too much out of it at times. Likewise Deegan jnr made a cameo got to see some ball and played some nice intelligent stuff through Offaly late on.

    At the back which is really where we're looking to tighten, Small once again had a solid game and the 2 games in quick sucession brought Culligan on no end last night. Thought he read the game very well and improved leaps and bounds as the game went on - my jaysis he's a block of a lad too, I'd back him in the physicality stakes. It would be interesting to see how he gets on against a cuter FF line, where his positioning away from goal may leave him vulnerable but we're looking a season away at the least imo.

    All in all it was a decent nights football - nothing but a sprinkling of fairy dust can stop Laois getting a right good hammering at the weekend by the looks of it. Then we're looking to either DCU or Mordor in a semi which should extend this panel a fair bit either way. Ta

    Edit .. just as an aside and a young lad that I personally think will hold a lot of promise in the FF line in years to come, Conor McHugh scored 8 points for DCU last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭corny


    cullen-calls-time-on-dublin-career/

    Not altogether surprising but sad none the less.

    Wasted at centre back(imo) for ages but still great player for Dublin. Didn't he score in every game in 2011?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    Fantastic servant to Dublin football. Wish him all the best in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Anyone get down to Portarlington yesterday ? a bit of pride returned to the Laois jersey by all accounts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Yeah, it was a strange one. There was a very strong wind in the first half, which really helped Laois. It took us until the 50th minute or so just to draw level. We were up by three for the last 15 mins, but a Laois goal put them ahead by 2. We got the goal back immediately thanks to a Kev Mc peno. Then Emmets last minute pt won it for us. Thomas Brady was the only one to really stand one imo. He has a real physicality to him (a la O'Gara & Connolly) which meant he was hard to knock off the ball, or foul, or force into over carrying, which happened a lot in the last 10 mins or so, when Laois were trying to act the mick. I'm not convinced that Phily Ryan or CC have the size or the strength to be full time options up front just yet. Jonny Cooper and Phily Mc got their first run out of the year, but they were both fairly quiet. Dean Rock put away a good number of frees but with the likes of Berno, Flynner etc still to return, I don't think he has done enough yet to claim a starting jersey. Still, there is always the league & the rest of the O'Byrne Cup to be played....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Fishingmad2013


    would it be possible for anyone to send me on the club transfer list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Yeah, it was a strange one. There was a very strong wind in the first half, which really helped Laois. It took us until the 50th minute or so just to draw level. We were up by three for the last 15 mins, but a Laois goal put them ahead by 2. We got the goal back immediately thanks to a Kev Mc peno. Then Emmets last minute pt won it for us. Thomas Brady was the only one to really stand one imo. He has a real physicality to him (a la O'Gara & Connolly) which meant he was hard to knock off the ball, or foul, or force into over carrying, which happened a lot in the last 10 mins or so, when Laois were trying to act the mick. I'm not convinced that Phily Ryan or CC have the size or the strength to be full time options up front just yet. Jonny Cooper and Phily Mc got their first run out of the year, but they were both fairly quiet. Dean Rock put away a good number of frees but with the likes of Berno, Flynner etc still to return, I don't think he has done enough yet to claim a starting jersey. Still, there is always the league & the rest of the O'Byrne Cup to be played....

    Who is CC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Who is CC?

    Cormac Costello


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ah, of course, thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    would it be possible for anyone to send me on the club transfer list?

    PM sent


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Lads do ye know if any Super Valu stores in Dublin are selling tickets for Sunday? My local one's machine is broken.
    I'd advise ye to get there early as there will probably be large queues for tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    Lads do ye know if any Super Valu stores in Dublin are selling tickets for Sunday? My local one's machine is broken.
    I'd advise ye to get there early as there will probably be large queues for tickets.

    Last 3 games have just been pay at the turnstiles 10 for adults 5 for students and oaps


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Joekers wrote: »
    Last 3 games have just been pay at the turnstiles 10 for adults 5 for students and oaps
    You'll have to get a ticket for this at the ground before going through the turnstiles. Super Valu (in Meath anyway) are selling tickets in advance. The queues for the ticket vans could be quite long if you're not there early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Berno is on the Late Late tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Paranoid Mandroid


    Anyone know the result from todays game ? cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭saltandpepper10


    Anyone know the result from todays game ? cheers

    Dublin win by 2 points good finnish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭whatnext


    Anyone know the result from todays game ? cheers

    Dublin by 2 injury time points
    All square at 70 mins
    Dubs blew a 9 point lead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    A 2 point win isnt great, we should be beating teams like Meath by 8/10 points.


    Seemed to miss a lot of goal chances again, which is a big concern that we cant put teams away easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭emmetlego


    Slattsy wrote: »
    A 2 point win isnt great, we should be beating teams like Meath by 8/10 points.


    Seemed to miss a lot of goal chances again, which is a big concern that we cant put teams away easier.

    It's the O'Byrne cup. Means nothing. You Dubs should relax, guarantee it meant a lot more to Meath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    emmetlego wrote: »
    It's the O'Byrne cup. Means nothing. You Dubs should relax, guarantee it meant a lot more to Meath.


    Throwing away a 9 point lead, at any level, regardless of the team we put out, isnt good.
    Its a trait i dont like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭emmetlego


    It's a trait that won't be there in the summer. The O'Byrne is a glorified challenge game.

    Toys out of the pram. Typical


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