Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

salmocab

Thats disappointing, bit plain and soccery bit more navy on the sides would have been nice. The shade of blue is nice. Have to see it in the flesh though sometimes it can look better.

eire4

Not liking that top. Having the navy as a contrast on the top was always much better I felt.

kiddap

I think it will look gorgeous with silver...............

ProudDUB

Massive congrats to the Dublin Minors, who beat Kilkenny today in the sctick fightin'

Meanwhile Vanilla Ice says he's sorry.....kind of...in a way...ice, ice baby..

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-scumbag-remark-was-clumsyi-knew-i-was-in-trouble-when-joe-brolly-backed-me-34713888.html

Nice try Tomas, but I ain't buying any of this 'clumsy slip of the tongue' ballsology.

DoctaDee

Anyone get up to PP to get a goo at the new jerseys in the flesh so to speak ? Great win for the minors, showed a lot of resolve, interesting to see a good few St. Brigids lads making the set up - I thought Na Fianna did all the hurling this side of the river .....

wazzer1

Anyone well up on the rules here?? Can a player black carded in normal time reappear in extra time?

DoctaDee

Nope anyone black or red carded during normal time has to sit it out - can return to 15 players in ET as you probably know..

Stoner

DoctaDee wrote:

Nope anyone black or red carded during normal time has to sit it out - can return to 15 players in ET as you probably know..

Even a straight black first offense? I understand that a yellow followed by a black is effectively a red.

Good rule really, I'd forgotten that, it gives a bit more weight to the black card. Something that in the league this year is increasingly being used as a soft red imo.

ProudDUB

ProudDUB wrote: »

Massive congrats to the Dublin Minors, who beat Kilkenny today in the sctick fightin'

Meanwhile Vanilla Ice says he's sorry.....kind of...in a way...ice, ice baby..

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-scumbag-remark-was-clumsyi-knew-i-was-in-trouble-when-joe-brolly-backed-me-34713888.html

Nice try Tomas, but I ain't buying any of this 'clumsy slip of the tongue' ballsology.

Yeah it's a good follow up by him, but I think he's using his uncle's excuse, and "scumbags" is much less ambiguous than "animals".

DoctaDee

Stoner wrote: »

Even a straight black first offense? I understand that a yellow followed by a black is effectively a red.

Good rule really, I'd forgotten that, it gives a bit more weight to the black card. Something that in the league this year is increasingly being used as a soft red imo.

Yeah once yer action involves an instruction from the ref to leave the field of play yer goosed. There is a somewhat misguided notion that the ET is a new game - but with the yellow cards carrying into ET its really not - tho to further confuse the matter you can field an entirely different 15 at the start of extra time

So by my reckoning its possible to give 39 players a run out in a game that goes to ET - 15+6 sub's normal and 15+3 in ET, what sort of message would that send to a lad if he didn't get on

Davys Fits

ProudDUB wrote: »

Massive congrats to the Dublin Minors, who beat Kilkenny today in the sctick fightin'

Meanwhile Vanilla Ice says he's sorry.....kind of...in a way...ice, ice baby..

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-scumbag-remark-was-clumsyi-knew-i-was-in-trouble-when-joe-brolly-backed-me-34713888.html

Nice try Tomas, but I ain't buying any of this 'clumsy slip of the tongue' ballsology.

So you think it fine in one breath to refer to the the great game of hurling as stick fighting and then go on to take offense with someone using the word scumbag in reference to your great football team. Slip of the tongue was it?

howiya

wazzer1 wrote: »

Anyone well up on the rules here?? Can a player black carded in normal time reappear in extra time?

Had to look this up yesterday, maybe we were at the same game. The rule is that any player ordered off in any circumstance cannot return but can be replaced

howiya

ProudDUB wrote: »

Massive congrats to the Dublin Minors, who beat Kilkenny today in the sctick fightin'

Meanwhile Vanilla Ice says he's sorry.....kind of...in a way...ice, ice baby..

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-scumbag-remark-was-clumsyi-knew-i-was-in-trouble-when-joe-brolly-backed-me-34713888.html

Nice try Tomas, but I ain't buying any of this 'clumsy slip of the tongue' ballsology.

Is it hard to write hurling? What name have you made up for football?

Nidgeweasel

DoctaDee wrote: »

Nope anyone black or red carded during normal time has to sit it out - can return to 15 players in ET as you probably know..

2 yellows in 70 minutes (and thus sent off) you can come back in for ET can you not?

I might be going off old rules.

DoctaDee

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

2 yellows in 70 minutes (and thus sent off) you can come back in for ET can you not?

I might be going off old rules.

Nearly sure that would come under being ordered off the field of play Nidge so by rights not eligible to play in ET... I'd stand corrected if told otherwise

but1er

Got my tickets for the game in Kilkenny today buzzing

Bonniedog

PD, I have to say the use of the word "stick fighting" is a term invented by a particularly obnoxious "gah" hating, deracinated. Chelsea loving (god help us) SINDO journalist.

I know you meant it in jest, but it is a detestable term.

BonnieSituation

If we're rounding on ProudDub then God help us. Is this why the Kerry lads had such thin skins. 3/5 seems to be the magic number. A fair few on here need to catch themselves on.

The Big One in Ulster is next Sunday (Not withstanding my Ancestral seat beating Antrim at the wwekend) and God help the infraction potential if a light gibe from a Dublin supporter about Dublin hurling (A well known Dub on here I might add) is causing such offemce.

I thought we had calmed down after TÓS's retraction.

Bonniedog

Is that the Ulster bogball you are referring to :-)

ProudDUB

Thanks BS. The term has been in use, long before Ian O'Doherty purloined it to have a go at the GAA. And it will be use long after he has gone to the Retirement Home For Sad and Bewildered Journalists. A couple of years ago, there was a thread (not created by me) over on Ressers, called the 'Schtick Fightin' Qualifers'. No one seemed to object to it. But if the scumbags, gougers, gurriers, delicate flowers on here, don't like it, it is duly noted.

BonnieSituation

Bonniedog wrote: »

Is that the Ulster bogball you are referring to :-)

The Glorious Sport of Ulster Bogball to you.

ProudDUB wrote: »

Thanks BS. The term has been in use, long before Ian O'Doherty purloined it to have a go at the GAA. And it will be use long after he has gone to the Retirement Home For Sad and Bewildered Journalists. A couple of years ago, there was a thread (not created by me) over on Ressers, called the 'Schtick Fightin' Qualifers'. No one seemed to object to it. But if the scumbags, gougers, gurriers, delicate flowers on here, don't like it, it is duly noted.

I've often used the term stick fighting to distinguish between it and stick ball (golf) in a funny and idiosyncratic way.

billyhead

How come the match on Saturday is being played in Croke Park. Would it not make sense for the GAA to play it in a packed Parnell?

Bonniedog

I did say you were only using it in jest!

BTW, the originator of the term, afaik, was another SINDO journo who is no longer with us.

It is one of those Pavlov's Dog terms for me, but obviously you don't mean it in same way!


On another note - did anyone hear the Longford manager before the Offaly match? He spent the whole interview basically saying that there wasn't really much point in them even playing because even if they did win a few matches they'd have to play the Dubs, and that their best players weren't available, and a few other excuses besides.

Dempsey tore him a new one, politely, pointing out that there were Longford players who had beaten Dublin at both minor and under 21, and were actually the best players in the county!

It was possibly the most pathetic interview I've heard since Mattie McDonagh of Galway threatened to bring Dublin to the High Court the day after the 1983 final.

Apparently Heffo's reaction was priceless, and unprintable :-)

Stoner

billyhead wrote:

How come the match on Saturday is being played in Croke Park. Would it not make sense for the GAA to play it in a packed Parnell?

Double header for Welford no?

Bogballers and stick fighters at war on the same day

Or

5.15pm Football, Wexford v Kildare
7.15pm Hurling, Dublin v Wexford

Bonniedog

Home game for Dublin, should be in Parnell. Not sure who was drawn first in football. I suspect it was Kildare as can't see the Wexicans surrendering home advantage in that!

klairondavis

Bonniedog wrote: »

Home game for Dublin, should be in Parnell. Not sure who was drawn first in football. I suspect it was Kildare as can't see the Wexicans surrendering home advantage in that!

Kildare have not played a home Leinster Championship fixture since 1995.

gormdubhgorm

klairondavis wrote: »

Kildare have not played a home Leinster Championship fixture since 1995.

It would not make any differnce where the lillies played.
They are the most over-rated team in the country I think, mainly because when McGeeney was managing them he had perfected staring intently into the distance. Yet never managed to beat teams he should not have or even run them close. No sign of improvement only regression.
The staring into the distance seems to have wowed the journo's who would go on about things like "intensity" and "drive".

Bonniedog

I had forgotten the matches were changed because of Brucie.

Not sure I totally agree with you about McGeeney. In his last year Kildare had a decent 21s teams and I think he wanted to bring them into the senior panel even at cost of writing off their year, and it was that which cost him the job?

Having said that, he has not done much with Armagh I suppose.

People forget too how close Kildare and Wexford came to turning Dublin over in 2011. Is it a case of Dublin improving exponentially, or the others accepting what Alex Ferguson would describe as the greatest sin - mediocrity!

In Kildare's case, they fked away great underage potential imho.

robbiezero

Bonniedog wrote: »

I had forgotten the matches were changed because of Brucie.

Not sure I totally agree with you about McGeeney. In his last year Kildare had a decent 21s teams and I think he wanted to bring them into the senior panel even at cost of writing off their year, and it was that which cost him the job?

Having said that, he has not done much with Armagh I suppose.

People forget too how close Kildare and Wexford came to turning Dublin over in 2011. Is it a case of Dublin improving exponentially, or the others accepting what Alex Ferguson would describe as the greatest sin - mediocrity!

In Kildare's case, they fked away great underage potential imho.

The top teams have all evolved a substantial amount in the last 4 years, Dublin most of all. The strength and conditioning of these teams is almost professional. They all have well drilled defensive systems, their support play is top notch as it is futile to carry balls into tackles against these teams now due to the expertise in tackling (which is a facet that really differentiates tier 1 teams from the rest).
Whenever I watch the likes of Kildare, Meath and Laois, I just think they are still playing the same style and level of football as they did 10 years ago. No real defensive system, can concede large scores, carrying the ball into tackles etc.
The likes of Meath and Kildare really need to take a long look at what they are doing. There is no reason they shouldn't be at the same level as the likes of Donegal, Tyrone and Mayo other strong traditional football counties. Hopefully some of the good work being done underage in Kildare will bear fruit soon.

Pierce_1991

Bonniedog wrote: »

I had forgotten the matches were changed because of Brucie.

Not sure I totally agree with you about McGeeney. In his last year Kildare had a decent 21s teams and I think he wanted to bring them into the senior panel even at cost of writing off their year, and it was that which cost him the job?

Having said that, he has not done much with Armagh I suppose.

People forget too how close Kildare and Wexford came to turning Dublin over in 2011. Is it a case of Dublin improving exponentially, or the others accepting what Alex Ferguson would describe as the greatest sin - mediocrity!

In Kildare's case, they fked away great underage potential imho.

I agree on McGeeney, I was always a fan of his. If nothing else Kildare were a really entertaining team to watch, I always enjoyed their games. The 2011 final I think is probably the best Leinster Championship game I've been to, it was an absolute cracker.