Bullet bounces off mugging victims face, kills teenage mugger

Foxhound38 · 31-12-2013 5:09pm #1

A fairly bizzare story to say the least!

Interested in the AH consensus here - on the one hand, a 16 year old lies dead. Mugger or not, I don't think anyone wants that. On the other hand, karma?

I'm split on this one myself - if the mugger was a bit older I'd be saying "good enough for him", but 16 is very young and is the death a cause to celebrate? Totally self-inflicted all the same, full sympathies to the victim and here's to a speedy and full recovery!

dmc17 · 31-12-2013 5:11pm

That'll teach him

Pacing Mule · 31-12-2013 5:11pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

A fairly bizzare story to say the least!

Interested in the AH consensus here - on the one hand, a 16 year old lies dead. Mugger or not, I don't think anyone wants that. On the other hand, karma?

I'm split on this one myself - if the mugger was a bit older I'd be saying "good enough for him", but 16 is very young and is the death a cause to celebrate? Totally self-inflicted all the same, full sympathies to the victim and here's to a speedy and full recovery!

That's what you get when you try to mug Chuck Norris.

Couldn't care less that he was 16 tbh. Deserved it.

Days 298 · 31-12-2013 5:11pm

He had a bright future mugging and shooting other innocent people. His accomplish tried to kill a person. No loss.

wazky · 31-12-2013 5:12pm

Muggers had a hard neck trying to rob someone, pity he didn't have a hard face however.

Goat the dote · 31-12-2013 5:12pm

Tough sh1t.
Doubt he would have cared if the victim died or not

Satriale · 31-12-2013 5:13pm

Only pity is the bullet didnt get the second mugger too.

PizzamanIRL · 31-12-2013 5:14pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

if the mugger was a bit older I'd be saying "good enough for him",

That's a strange thing to say. Age doesn't matter with scumbags. Whether they're 16 or 30 it doesn't matter. I don't see why you would feel sorry because he's 16. They were shooting the victim in the FACE like.

31-12-2013 5:15pm

Saying I'm glad he died isn't right, but if one of the two was going to die, I'm glad it wasn't the original victim.

He was going to murder someone in cold blood and instead killed himself, it was the better outcome for sure.

P_1 · 31-12-2013 5:15pm

Live by the sword, or in this case the 9mm handgun...

whomitconcerns · 31-12-2013 5:15pm

No sympathy here...he was complying and they shot anyway...

Mint Aero · 31-12-2013 5:15pm

Coolest story of the year

Mr. CooL ICE · 31-12-2013 5:17pm

That's mad. Did the mugging victim have an ivory tusk on his face or something?

DarkJager · 31-12-2013 5:17pm

A scumbag is a scumbag regardless of what age they are. Delighted he won't get a chance to mug someone ever again

Foxhound38 · 31-12-2013 5:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Saying I'm glad he died isn't right, but if one of the two was going to die, I'm glad it wasn't the original victim.

He was going to murder someone in cold blood and instead killed himself, it was the better outcome for sure.

That's pretty much where I stand. It's not a question of "deserving it" (because there is no question on who is to blame for what happened), it's a question as to whether it's anything to feel particularly good about.

The reason I bring the 16 thing into it is because 16 isn't (in my view) too old to be rehabilitated into something approaching a decent human being.

mlumley · 31-12-2013 5:18pm

He wont do it again.

Mousewar · 31-12-2013 5:20pm

16? Way too young.
No he didnt deserve to die because he fell in with some trigger happy lunatic. God, when i think what kind of idiot I was at 16...

My name is URL · 31-12-2013 5:21pm

I want to know what moisturiser the guy uses

Witcher · 31-12-2013 5:21pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

The reason I bring the 16 thing into it is because 16 isn't (in my view) too old to be rehabilitated into something approaching a decent human being.

Maybe if they're smashing windows or burning wheelie bins but when they're shooting people in the face they're too far gone.

31-12-2013 5:23pm

How does a bullet bounce off your face!

The Diabolical Monocle · 31-12-2013 5:28pm

At least Jay Leno is safe.

dearg lady · 31-12-2013 5:30pm

It was a third party who fired the shot. I don't think this kid deserved to die, he was mugging someone, he deserves to be in a serious amount of trouble, but not dead.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 31-12-2013 5:31pm

that is equal parts hilarious and wonderful, although hopefully the victim makes a full and easy recovery

Wacker The Attacker · 31-12-2013 5:31pm

It's probably better this way.

He was clearly headed for a lifetime of shankings by a string of 40 stone prison daddies.

Wacker The Attacker · 31-12-2013 5:32pm

dearg lady wrote: »

It was a third party who fired the shot. I don't think this kid deserved to die, he was mugging someone, he deserves to be in a serious amount of trouble, but not dead.

f**k him

CrabRevolution · 31-12-2013 5:34pm

Seems most people didnt read the story, the bullet wasnt fired by the lad who died. His partner in crime fired it, it bounced off the victim's face (man in the iron mask? jason voorhees?) and then killed yerman.

So these statements of 'he fired a bullet at a mans face, he deserved to die', arent really true....well, the bullet firing anyway.

Rough Sleeper · 31-12-2013 5:35pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

The reason I bring the 16 thing into it is because 16 isn't (in my view) too old to be rehabilitated into something approaching a decent human being.

It's also pretty sad to think that's someone can be so ****ed up by the age of 16 that they'd blow some innocent stranger's brains out for a wallet or a phone. Must have been a pretty ****e life (with an admittedly rather exotic ending).

Nothing to be happy about here.

Phoebas · 31-12-2013 5:36pm

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Seems most people didnt read the story, the bullet wasnt fired by the lad who died. His partner in crime fired it, it bounced off the victim's face (man in the iron mask? jason voorhees?) and then killed yerman.

So these statements of 'he fired a bullet at a mans face, he deserved to die', arent really true....well, the bullet firing anyway.

We can't be allowing the facts of the case get in the way of AH bloodlust.

Pacing Mule · 31-12-2013 5:36pm

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Seems most people didnt read the story, the bullet wasnt fired by the lad who died. His partner in crime fired it, it bounced off the victim's face (man in the iron mask? jason voorhees?) and then killed yerman.

So these statements of 'he fired a bullet at a mans face, he deserved to die', arent really true....well, the bullet firing anyway.

I read it before posting. Stand by it too. He was in an armed group terrorising and robbing an innocent man.

dearg lady · 31-12-2013 5:37pm

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

f**k him

why? You have no idea what his back story is, what pushed him to mug someone, what crappy life he may have had. Even if he had everything great and mugged the guy just because he's a d*ck he still doesn't deserve to die. Would you advocate the reintroduction of the death penalty for crimes such as mugging?

keith16 · 31-12-2013 5:38pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofQ6i9I1IYY

galwayrush · 31-12-2013 5:38pm

I hope the intended victim is ok

One less scumbag in the world is good

Witcher · 31-12-2013 5:39pm

dearg lady wrote: »

why? You have no idea what his back story is, what pushed him to big someone, what crappy life he may have had. Even if he had everything great and mugged the guy just because he's a d*ck he still doesn't deserve to die. Would you advocate the reintroduction of the death penalty for crimes such as mugging?

A lot of people have hard lives and don't mug people.

It's no excuse.

But sure God love him..he was probably the conscience of the group.

Foxhound38 · 31-12-2013 5:39pm

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

It's also pretty sad to think that's someone can be so ****ed up by the age of 16 that they'd blow some innocent stranger's brains out for a wallet or a phone. Must have been a pretty ****e life (with an admittedly rather exotic ending).

Nothing to be happy about here.

In fairness, the 16 year old wasn't the shooter - he was an accomplice in crime to the shooter.

artanevilla · 31-12-2013 5:40pm

What the fùck was the chaps face made of? That's the only question here.

dearg lady · 31-12-2013 5:40pm

Blay wrote: »

A lot of people have hard lives and don't mug people.

It's no excuse.

But sure God love him..he was probably the conscience of the group.

Perhaps read the second half of my post?

Rough Sleeper · 31-12-2013 5:46pm

Foxhound38 wrote: »

In fairness, the 16 year old wasn't the shooter - he was an accomplice in crime to the shooter.

My bad. I always go mad at people for commenting on stories without actually even reading them, and here I am doing it myself.

Witcher · 31-12-2013 5:47pm

dearg lady wrote: »

Perhaps read the second half of my post?

I read it all, what's your point?

The very fact you mentioned his 'hard life' means you consider it a mitigating factor in crime.

Witcher · 31-12-2013 5:48pm

Presumably it was a small calibre pistol and the round hit somewhere hard like his cheekbone and deflected out to the side.

Mocha Joe · 31-12-2013 5:48pm

artanevilla wrote: »

What the fùck was the chaps face made of? That's the only question here.

WHY HAS NO_ONE ANSWERED THIS?!!?

Phoebas · 31-12-2013 5:49pm

Blay wrote: »

The very fact you mentioned his 'hard life' means you consider it a mitigating factor in crime.

That's a pretty standard mitigating factor, regularly accepted by judges all around the world, no?

Nodin · 31-12-2013 5:51pm

bluewolf wrote: »

How does a bullet bounce off your face!

The forehead at an angle would be my guess, along with a smaller cartridge like a .22. If it does turn out to be yer mans mush and/or a larger calibre I'll be surprised indeed.

dearg lady · 31-12-2013 5:51pm

Blay wrote: »

I read it all, what's your point?

The very fact you mentioned his 'hard life' means you consider it a mitigating factor in crime.

I think it can push people to do messed up things. I don't think it makes doing those things okay. But there is a difference between acknowledging something is wrong and should be punished and being glad the person is dead.
So, as I asked, would you like to see the reintroduction of the death penalty for crimes such as muggings?

Witcher · 31-12-2013 5:52pm

Phoebas wrote: »

That's a pretty standard mitigating factor, regularly accepted by judges all around the world, no?

It is indeed but it's a load of horsesh1t. The opinions and actions of a judge are often far removed from reality and public opinion.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 31-12-2013 5:53pm

the death penalty is wrong because the state has no business murdering citizens, muggers rapists and various other assholes dying in the course of their crimes is generally always something to be celebrated

Witcher · 31-12-2013 5:53pm

dearg lady wrote: »

I think it can push people to do messed up things. I don't think it makes doing those things okay. But there is a difference between acknowledging something is wrong and should be punished and being glad the person is dead.
So, as I asked, would you like to see the reintroduction of the death penalty for crimes such as muggings?

I never said I was glad that he died or that he deserved it.