Simmental heifer help

Mad4simmental

Well lads, not the usual. Finding it very hard to find good heifers. I am after 3/4 breed Simmental heifers from 400/500kg. Red and white farm breed no dealers. Reddy for breathing as we are getting back into sucklers. It's like hens teeth at the moment trying to find good stock. Anyone have any cumming up for sale or know sumone that mite have a few? Any ideas, I don't really want to import as there should be good anof stock in Ireland. Thanks for your help.

Kevin McCloud

Donedeal seems popular these days with livestock for sale.

Mad4simmental

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

Donedeal seems popular these days with livestock for sale.

Ya I keep an eye on that to, allot of bulls on it. Not many Simmental hefirs like what I'm after.

Kevin McCloud

Have a look on this website im sure you will find it of interest and may help you out.
http://www.irishsimmental.com/site/

Mad4simmental

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

Have a look on this website im sure you will find it of interest and may help you out.
http://www.irishsimmental.com/site/

Thanks for that Kevin.

moy83

I'd say anyone that breeds 3/4 simmental heifers would be keeping them for themselves rather than selling them on .
Would buying good limo heifers and putting a simmental bull on them be an option ? You would be a bit slower getting what you wanted but it would be easier put together a bunch of limos at the moment

Mad4simmental

That is a way of doing it allrit but I'd be a few years down the road before I'd be where I sorta want to start from if that makes sence. We ust to be able to get them no bother, allot of men ust to keep them and sell them every year as breeding heifers. I don't mind paying good cash for them. Is it just me or is there allot of very average stock for sale at the moment?

Mad4simmental

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Farrell

Mad4simmental wrote: »

That is a way of doing it allrit but I'd be a few years down the road before I'd be where I sorta want to start from if that makes sence. We ust to be able to get them no bother, allot of men ust to keep them and sell them every year as breeding heifers. I don't mind paying good cash for them. Is it just me or is there allot of very average stock for sale at the moment?

Yea donedeal looks to be that way, with allot of big price tags. Saw a nice red white Oct 12 heifer 450kg make €840 in the mart, donedeal is over €1000

sallypark

What part of the country are you in Mad 4 simmental? We have a 5 nice heifers here.

Mad4simmental

sallypark wrote: »

What part of the country are you in Mad 4 simmental? We have a 5 nice heifers here.

In Laois but more than happy to travil. Where are you based?

Mad4simmental

Farrell wrote: »

Yea donedeal looks to be that way, with allot of big price tags. Saw a nice red white Oct 12 heifer 450kg make €840 in the mart, donedeal is over €1000

True, I also saw a lad after $3900 for a heifer with a calf at foot, granted she was top quality but not a cup of milk under her!

Miname

Ive 3 real nice limo off sim cows. they are ideal breeding heifers will be going out the middle of february if you want i'll send on a few pics. they are about 450kg. dec12 animals. Theres a sale coming up next week in elphin with 90 sim springers, would probably be a better option to get moving straight away.

Mad4simmental

Miname wrote: »

Ive 3 real nice limo off sim cows. they are ideal breeding heifers will be going out the middle of february if you want i'll send on a few pics. they are about 450kg. dec12 animals. Theres a sale coming up next week in elphin with 90 sim springers, would probably be a better option to get moving straight away.

Send me pics of your girls if you can thanks. It's hard to find good strong heifers ATM.

Farrell

Mad4simmental wrote: »

True, I also saw a lad after $3900 for a heifer with a calf at foot, granted she was top quality but not a cup of milk under her!

Seams to be allot of stupid prices, all over the website, but anyone realistic is selling (well adds go).
Is the high prices due to hagglers

Mad4simmental

I'd say they get annoyed by allot of hagglers all-rite. I think it's just allot of chancers to be honist. Sum boys trying to flog of old cul cows that took 6 months to get back in calf for the price of good young stock. I do hope that there isn't that many stupid people out there buying this crap.

moy83

Is this one any good to you Mad4 ? She is due to calve in the next couple of weeks .

Mad4simmental

moy83 wrote: »

Is this one any good to you Mad4 ? She is due to calve in the next couple of weeks .

She is pretty much exactly what we are after. I should have mentioned we are looking at getting into the autumn calving. We ust to calve at this time of the year but wanto give it a go in autumn. Good sale on next week in Roscommon naby you could piggy back that ;-) I'd say you would be ate for her!

moy83

Mad4simmental wrote: »

She is pretty much exactly what we are after. I should have mentioned we are looking at getting into the autumn calving. We ust to calve at this time of the year but wanto give it a go in autumn. Good sale on next week in Roscommon naby you could piggy back that ;-) I'd say you would be ate for her!

I will calve her down probably and maybe sell then . She is PBNR and in calf to a limo ( elderberry galahad I think )
What kinda money would you say she would make ? She is not a huge heifer as they go

Mad4simmental

moy83 wrote: »

I will calve her down probably and maybe sell then . She is PBNR and in calf to a limo ( elderberry galahad I think )
What kinda money would you say she would make ? She is not a huge heifer as they go

As she stands you would think she is worth $1600 at current prices. With a good calf at foot around $2000 or a shade over that. What you think?

moy83

Mad4simmental wrote: »

As she stands you would think she is worth $1600 at current prices. With a good calf at foot around $2000 or a shade over that. What you think?

If I got that money I would be delighted . If I do sell her ill post up the price .

Mad4simmental

moy83 wrote: »

If I got that money I would be delighted . If I do sell her ill post up the price .

Ya do I'd be interested to see my self. Whit the prices sum are making I wouldn't take any less to be honist.

Farm King

Anybody at the sale in Elphin last night? What kind of prices were the heifers going?

Mad4simmental

Interested myself!

Rabbit1989

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/in-calf-simmental-heifers-/6216209

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/sim-limo-in-calf-heifers-for-sale/6213370

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/cattle-for-sale/6056307

The above three links are SMx but as previously stated lads want made money for SMx's, however what we use on our farm are the link below, we find them to be smashing mothers, plenty of milk, and will NEVER attack you. The good old Black Whitehead! Far cheaper to buy and I don't really know if there is that big a difference in the progeny.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/hereford/6225646

hugo29

Rabbit1989 wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/in-calf-simmental-heifers-/6216209

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/sim-limo-in-calf-heifers-for-sale/6213370

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/cattle-for-sale/6056307

The above three links are SMx but as previously stated lads want made money for SMx's, however what we use on our farm are the link below, we find them to be smashing mothers, plenty of milk, and will NEVER attack you. The good old Black Whitehead! Far cheaper to buy and I don't really know if there is that big a difference in the progeny.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/hereford/6225646

some nice looking SIM x in tyrone

Bizzum

Gone a little off Sim cows, Too much of a hit to take on the bull calves!

Mad4simmental

Rabbit1989 wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/in-calf-simmental-heifers-/6216209

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/sim-limo-in-calf-heifers-for-sale/6213370

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/cattle-for-sale/6056307

The above three links are SMx but as previously stated lads want made money for SMx's, however what we use on our farm are the link below, we find them to be smashing mothers, plenty of milk, and will NEVER attack you. The good old Black Whitehead! Far cheaper to buy and I don't really know if there is that big a difference in the progeny.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/hereford/6225646

Nice stock, we ust to have a good few of the oul black whit heads, personally I loved them, you could rub them down in the field and when they got ust to the farm you could nearly just open the gate and they would just walk down the road and into the next field. They knew exactly where they wer going ha.

Rabbit1989

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/simmental-heifer/6238512

These are nice! No price though, prob €1200 or mad money like that!

dh1985

Farm King wrote: »

Anybody at the sale in Elphin last night? What kind of prices were the heifers going?

Heard around 1900 to 2000 average for them. Wasnt there myself so this is second hand info

moy83

She calved

Mad4simmental

Smashing pair, She's a gorguse hefier. Is she pure breed or 3/4? Best of luck with them. Sheep be a good milker to.

Mad4simmental

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Smashing pair, She's a gorguse hefier. Is she pure breed or 3/4? Best of luck with them. Sheep be a good milker to.

She'll be a smashing milker

moy83

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Smashing pair, She's a gorguse hefier. Is she pure breed or 3/4? Best of luck with them. Sheep be a good milker to.

Thanks , she is PBNR .

tanko

Nice looking calf, is that your first one of EBY? Would you reccomend him for heifers?

moy83

tanko wrote: »

Nice looking calf, is that your first one of EBY? Would you reccomend him for heifers?

I think thats the first one . But probably have a couple more on the way . My laptop is broken so I cant get onto kingswood to check out whats bulled with what .
She calved in the cubicles without a bother so hopefully thats a good sign for the rest of them . Thats a fine sized calf for a heifer too so on first impressions im happy with EBY but time will tell it better I suppose

Bizzum

Super outfit Moy. Isn't that what ya want from a bull, a nice calf, unassisted calving, no messing and a healthy calf up and motoring.

She'll mature into a grand cow. What age did she calve down at?

moy83

Bizzum wrote: »

Super outfit Moy. Isn't that what ya want from a bull, a nice calf, unassisted calving, no messing and a healthy calf up and motoring.

She'll mature into a grand cow. What age did she calve down at?

I think she is around 26/27 months but I'll have to check it up to be sure

hugo29

Nice one moy, you still selling her,

Bizzum

moy83 wrote: »

I think she is around 26/27 months but I'll have to check it up to be sure

Exactly the age we like to calve at. Bull them around 18mths. I know Teagasc are pushing calving at 24mths hard now but I think if you can leaving a heifer on the extra few mths makes a big difference.
We do have to go early sometimes, we've 2 heifers a year old now that may go to the bull in April to calve next spring, needs must!

moy83

hugo29 wrote: »

Nice one moy, you still selling her,

I think so , but the old lad is getting fond of her :rolleyes:

moy83

Bizzum wrote: »

Exactly the age we like to calve at. Bull them around 18mths. I know Teagasc are pushing calving at 24mths hard now but I think if you can leaving a heifer on the extra few mths makes a big difference.
We do have to go early sometimes, we've 2 heifers a year old now that may go to the bull in April to calve next spring, needs must!

I dont think there is much wrong with calving at the two years . Some of the older lads around here were always saying to calf young while there is a bit of give in them . A nice easy calving bull is a definite anyhow

Mac Taylor

There is 30 sim cows for sale in Gort this Thursday all in calf to either a ch or sim bull. Owner is reducing herd. It will be interesting to see what they make, last year cows were making in or around 2k at reduction sales.

moy83

Mac Taylor wrote: »

There is 30 sim cows for sale in Gort this Thursday all in calf to either a ch or sim bull. Owner is reducing herd. It will be interesting to see what they make, last year cows were making in or around 2k at reduction sales.

Do you know what time that sale is on ? Might mosey down for a look if I get a chance

Genghis Cant

Some powerful looking cows here too:

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/rockbellew-herd/6323291

Mac Taylor

moy83 wrote: »

Do you know what time that sale is on ? Might mosey down for a look if I get a chance

8pm sharp!! so it says on donedeal. If I can get out of work on time, I'll probably go myself. Tyre kicker only this time. I need to sell a few before I buy anything new.
My charge for this information is a cup of tae with apple tart and cream!!!

moy83

Mac Taylor wrote: »

8pm sharp!! so it says on donedeal. If I can get out of work on time, I'll probably go myself. Tyre kicker only this time. I need to sell a few before I buy anything new.
My charge for this information is a cup of tae with apple tart and cream!!!

I'll only be snooping myself . If the wife gets out of work early ill go down and pay for the info with tart and tea no bother .

Mac Taylor

moy83 wrote: »

I'll only be snooping myself . If the wife gets out of work early ill go down and pay for the info with tart and tea no bother .

I say 70% of those attending the mart every Thursday are tyre kickers, mind you great social occasion for the older generation. My auld man goes religiously every thursday just so that he can complain about farming, I think its like group therapy!!

Mad4simmental

Mac Taylor wrote: »

There is 30 sim cows for sale in Gort this Thursday all in calf to either a ch or sim bull. Owner is reducing herd. It will be interesting to see what they make, last year cows were making in or around 2k at reduction sales.

Tanks ya were going, was in Kildare lastnight good stock mostly Lims not what we were after but very nice cattle. Roscray Friday and Meath Tuesday :-) slowey slowley as they say!

GrandSoftDay

Mac Taylor wrote: »

8pm sharp!! so it says on donedeal. If I can get out of work on time, I'll probably go myself. Tyre kicker only this time. I need to sell a few before I buy anything new.
My charge for this information is a cup of tae with apple tart and cream!!!

Your as well off being a tyre kicker tonight I think, can't see any of those cows being bought too cheap. Fair stock though, some of them used to be summered close enough to me.

Mac Taylor

Full house for the sale. To be fair good quality sim cows averaging 700-800 plus. Just saw the first 10. All due from Paddys day to either a ch or sim bull. 06 to 07 - 1600 to 1700. 08 to 10 - 1700 to 2000