Forum to Become Commercial Bingo Centre

danjo-xx

Only half listening to wlrfm in work this morning and they were saying that after March there will be no more gigs as place with be a bingo cente, with Restaurant downstairs and Next door off licence.

Said this was the way to go in these times and were hoping it would attract interest from commercial bingo firms from abroad.

Something like that anyway..

Hard to believe.

Ghostbusthat

Terrible news for live music in Waterford. We may as well forget about any touring bands stopping off here now.

O Riain

Ghostbusthat wrote: »

Terrible news for live music in Waterford. We may as well forget about any touring bands stopping off here now.

They never did anyway

old gregg

O Riain wrote: »

They never did anyway

Hard to blame them

Dicky Pride

How can a town that complains to EVERYONE about a €5 door charge ever maintain a venue for live acts?

Waterford has been known as a shocking city for live music for many, many years.

The Four of us played in a venue in Waterford last weekend and 25 people showed up (the majority of them travelled from outside of Waterford to see the gig)

Sure look at the attitude of people upon hearing this news "sure there were never any decent acts anyway". BULL. There's a possibility that your favourite band, who probably hail from some dark hole of Canada and nobody's ever heard of them, haven't played in the forum and this pisses you off.

There's a reason why the same 3-4 bands play in the same venues each week. Waterford people won't pay for anything (the town is only busy when there's something free on - tall ships music, Spraoi etc - daytripper tries something and loses a fortune thanks to people's belief that they were being ripped off, even when the opposite was true).

Waterford people only seem to want the jam tarts. So that's what they deserve tbh.

old gregg

^ This has also sadly been my experience being involved in music in Waterford for many years. A truly grim place to run music events.

Cabaal

Dicky Pride wrote: »

The Four of us played in a venue in Waterford last weekend and 25 people showed up (the majority of them travelled from outside of Waterford to see the gig)

Felt cheated when I saw them in Kitlers in Kilkenny, there's two of them for a start and only one of the original band! :pac:

Anyway, for an offer of a comparison they played in Kitlers back a few months back and the place was very busy,

dzilla

sign of how things are going in waterford. I don't know the cost of running a bingo event, but it can look as a cheaper alternative to a social outlet with a chance of a cash windfall, (spend a small amount and possible win a small fortune similiar to the amount of bookies openning nationwide)

its a pity because there is no stand out location for big bands to come to Waterford. In my opinion dance music is popular and has been the last 10 years because it is easier to set up a dj with a set of decks or laptop than a whole band, you have to pay less people, and you can pack out places like 10 (crystal) etc and charge a premium for the bottles

Ghostbusthat

O Riain wrote: »

They never did anyway

I have been to see a number of touring bands in the Forum in the past few years? There might not have been a huge amount of them, but it was nice to see the ones that did manage to get an alright crowd.

MRnotlob606

billy connolly played there willie nelson and johnny cash played there,This a discrace that the are turning it in to a bingo centre

CardBordWindow

I think this is a great opportunity to mix the whole lot together. Drinking, dancing, live music and bingo!
A true test of a bingo champion : See who can pay attention to what numbers have been called out at random times during songs, while dancing drunk.
'Smack my SEVENTEEN up'

MRnotlob606

reminds me of the the music fest in 2011 when 50 cent played at the rsc, there was probably more people outside watching than people inside the place , and even then some of the people in there had sneaked in,:(

Cabaal

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

reminds me of the the music fest in 2011 when 50 cent played at the rsc, there was probably more people outside watching than people inside the place , and even then some of the people in there had sneaked in,:(

It was 50 cent, what exactly did expect? :pac:

nkay1985

Very sad to see. I've always tried my best to go see bands when they play The Forum. The gigs were always very good with the sound being better than most places I've been to. But there was always very small numbers when I did go there so it's not surprising. Looks like a lot more travelling to Cork/Dublin in the future.

0rt

The forum has been making more money doing bingo than it has with live music as far as im aware..
Their accounts are in the red, so why wouldnt they make the change if they will benefit?

Personally, ive seen bands playing on peoples doorsteps in this city and people wont even open their doors.

I say fair played to the management for making an admin decision, it will keep them and their staff in business.
But its a sad day when a music venue closes its doors.

PTH2009

It's sad to see a venue close had a good few times over the last few years saw acts such as limehouse lizzy, the umbeliveables, Tommy Tiernan among others

People in this city always something cheap or something free. Sounds like daytripper might not take place next summer if they made such a loss. More trips to Dublin and cork for decent live music

mike65

We're (and the whole business is ) a long way from the days when Music Moves could wangle The Smiths etc to Waterford when they were hot acts.

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-smiths/1984/savoy-waterford-ireland-1bd7d558.html

Nypd

In fairness the place has been flip flopping from one thing to another, try this try that without giving anything a chance to bed in.
Promotor seemed to try just about everything and failed, with most of the gigs.
Smash hits, spring break, Dave Clarke rinse wash and repeat.

Dicky Pride

Nypd wrote: »

In fairness the place has been flip flopping from one thing to another, try this try that without giving anything a chance to bed in.
Promotor seemed to try just about everything and failed, with most of the gigs.
Smash hits, spring break, Dave Clarke rinse wash and repeat.

I don't think that's fair, and any truth in it reflects what Waterford people reacted to. Those acts you mentioned obviously filled the place so it makes sense that they revisited them whenever possible.

Take a look at the acts that they have welcomed down the years and it's really impossible to say that they haven't tried new things. Daytripper is a perfect example of this.

Look at the other end of town - No Hot Ashes, Jam Tarts, Lebowski, Unusual Suspects...rinse, wash and repeat. Why? Because that's what Waterford people want. Bring in a new, unheard of originals band, and they'll be playing to nobody. Such is life.

The Forum should be applauded for hanging on as long as they did.

With Mick O'Keeffe in Shorrts now, you'll more than likely see the likes of Smash Hits etc down there now. Maybe the odd sprinkling of a Jack L and the likes as well.

Eroticplants

**** the forum.
https://crystalnightclub.ticketabc.com/events/-peter-hook/

obezyana

Eroticplants wrote: »

**** the forum.
https://crystalnightclub.ticketabc.com/events/-peter-hook/

What a stupid post. Did the Forum upset you in some way? If it's yourself promoting the gig you linked I doubt you will get any takers seen as you seem to have a childish way of promoting.

Effects

Dicky Pride wrote: »

The Four of us played in a venue in Waterford last weekend and 25 people showed up (the majority of them travelled from outside of Waterford to see the gig)

I think that one can be blamed on the band. Still, must be hard having to play to a crowd like that.

Nypd

Dicky Pride wrote: »

I don't think that's fair, and any truth in it reflects what Waterford people reacted to. Those acts you mentioned obviously filled the place so it makes sense that they revisited them whenever possible.



With Mick O'Keeffe in Shorrts now, you'll more than likely see the likes of Smash Hits etc down there now. Maybe the odd sprinkling of a Jack L and the likes as well.

Im not being unfair, Hats off to the forum they survived for years doing their own thing.

Ghostbusthat

Anyone think Shortt's is gonna take their place? Just had a look at the listings from the link above and The Answer will be playing there in March.

AdMMM

Ghostbusthat wrote: »

Anyone think Shortt's is gonna take their place? Just had a look at the listings from the link above and The Answer will be playing there in March.

Well considering the booker from the forum (who was formerly at Electric Avenue) is back in Shortts, I'd say that's some very good detective from you there!

It's a shame that the Forum is gone. The acoustics were always fantastic and I was always very grateful to be able to see some fantastic bands on our doorstep for sometimes half the price that you'd see them in Dublin for... and even still people were complaining about prices.

Some of my best nights out ever were there and I think the New Years Party is going to be fantastic there!

PTH2009

Ghostbusthat wrote: »

Anyone think Shortt's is gonna take their place? Just had a look at the listings from the link above and The Answer will be playing there in March.

Really there a good band. Think i will be going that night please god

Crusty Blaa

I was up there Friday to see O Emperor play and it was almost embarrassing how small the turn out was in their hometown. It was mainly just family and friends up there. Felt sorry for the lads, speaking to the drummer after and he said its one of the smallest crowds they have played in front of.

danjo-xx

Heard the demon drink will be sold at these new bingo sessions or has this always been the case.

nkay1985

Crusty Blaa wrote: »

I was up there Friday to see O Emperor play and it was almost embarrassing how small the turn out was in their hometown. It was mainly just family and friends up there. Felt sorry for the lads, speaking to the drummer after and he said its one of the smallest crowds they have played in front of.

I have to say that by comparison to their previous gigs I thought this was a lot less advertised. It was the first of their Waterford gigs I've ever missed due to being on a work night out which was a pity.

Just watch though, they'll go and get well-known this coming year and the whole town will be giving out about them not coming home to play.

dzilla

nkay1985 wrote: »

Just watch though, they'll go and get well-known this coming year.

Reckon that ship has sailed

nkay1985

dzilla wrote: »

Reckon that ship has sailed

As in you reckon they're well-known already or won't ever be?

Nypd

nkay1985 wrote: »

I have to say that by comparison to their previous gigs I thought this was a lot less advertised. It was the first of their Waterford gigs I've ever missed due to being on a work night out which was a pity.

Just watch though, they'll go and get well-known this coming year and the whole town will be giving out about them not coming home to play.

I didn't hear anything about the gig, shame would have loved to go see the boys play.
You would think with a handful of gigs left there they would advertise them right.
Maybe that's why it's becoming a bingo hall !!

dzilla

nkay1985 wrote: »

As in you reckon they're well-known already or won't ever be?

I reckon if their current project doesn't make emdey will prob go their separate ways.... i like them.... jus think that the vibe is with bands like the coronas n original rudeboys at the moment who arent as good as em but get the crowds

nkay1985

dzilla wrote: »

I reckon if their current project doesn't make emdey will prob go their separate ways.... i like them.... jus think that the vibe is with bands like the coronas n original rudeboys at the moment who arent as good as em but get the crowds

Yeah but apparently they're very close to signing for a label that would actually suit them as opposed to Universal. I think if that happens, it'd be the final push. It's terrible to see because they're far superior to 95% of Irish output at the moment but aren't "commercial". I really think they'd have a market in the UK but you'd just need the right representation.

dzilla

Yup. I dont know how labels etc work. I knkw they where popular in Germany?

nkay1985

dzilla wrote: »

Yup. I dont know how labels etc work. I knkw they where popular in Germany?

Yeah they have a following there alright. Wallis Bird seems to be making a living from being based there.

Crusty Blaa

nkay1985 wrote: »

Yeah but apparently they're very close to signing for a label that would actually suit them as opposed to Universal. I think if that happens, it'd be the final push. It's terrible to see because they're far superior to 95% of Irish output at the moment but aren't "commercial". I really think they'd have a market in the UK but you'd just need the right representation.

The lads have been nominated for the Choice Music Award amongst the likes of Kodaline, Little Green Cars and others. Nice bit of coverage for them.

nkay1985

Crusty Blaa wrote: »

The lads have been nominated for the Choice Music Award amongst the likes of Kodaline, Little Green Cars and others. Nice bit of coverage for them.

Yeah I saw that. They were nominated for 'Hither Thither' too.

Lady Thor

I love the forum, going to miss it