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Francie Barrett

Gamebred wrote: »

I dont know much about the case but I'm pretty sure they are still rangers football club? new owners doesnt mean its a new club.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ownership_of_Rangers_F.C.#Liquidation_and_current_ownership

The details are all there. Technically, I don't think Rangers were actually ever relegated. The club simply ceased to be for a brief time, before it was re-formed and a new entity applied for permission to join the Scottish league.

Peintre Celebre

The main question they're saying is the definition of relegation. Coral don't have a definition in their rules and it was pointed out in the dictionary in court it's to play in a lower league, says nothing about having to be bottom of table or anything.

Coral really do themselves no favours the amount of bad publicity from this. This is like the time they did Britain at the bookies times 10. Real own goals there.

They say he didn't inform them he was a bookmaker and he's semi pro cos he's trying to make profit I cannot fathom that. By their logic someone doing the lottery is semi pro. And what relevance does his former career have on it?

mick malones mauser

Gamebred wrote: »

I dont know much about the case but I'm pretty sure they are still rangers football club? new owners doesnt mean its a new club.

It is a new club.....
I hope he gets his money but ..
If you backed a horse to finish last ( if such a thing were possible) and the horse had a heart attack and died 2 furlongs out and never finished the race.
Would he be deemed to have finished last.

Peintre Celebre

mick malones mauser wrote: »

It is a new club.....
I hope he gets his money but ..
If you backed a horse to finish last ( if such a thing were possible) and the horse had a heart attack and died 2 furlongs out and never finished the race.
Would he be deemed to have finished last.

Not really relevant to the punter. If you back a club to win the league and they get taken over and win will the bet be void cos it's a new club?

Francie Barrett

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Not really relevant to the punter. If you back a club to win the league and they get taken over and win will the bet be void cos it's a new club?

Of course you pay out, but that is different. In that scenario, the club finished with the maximum amount of points, they lift the trophy, done deal.

Rangers didn't finish in the relegation zone, they weren't put into administration or docked x amount of points to relegate them, neither did the Scottish FA formally declare that they were being relegated into division 3. They simply ceased to be.

Peintre Celebre

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Of course you pay out, but that is different. In that scenario, the club finished with the maximum amount of points, they lift the trophy, done deal.

Rangers didn't finish in the relegation zone, they weren't put into administration or docked x amount of points to relegate them, neither did the Scottish FA formally declare that they were being relegated into division 3. They simply ceased to be.

Im not saying anything about relegation. I'm pointing out flaws in their point of not paying based on it being a new club, not the method of relegation

Gamebred

The bet wasnt to finish in the relegation zone or finish with so many pts, it was to be in a lower division the next season and its a winner imo, Corals problem for not having conditions attached.

mick malones mauser

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Not really relevant to the punter. If you back a club to win the league and they get taken over and win will the bet be void cos it's a new club?

Peintre

We are not talking about new owners buying an existing club.
The club ceased to exist....
Rangers were liquidated..that means they died.ceased to exist
A new club was formed and that club applied to the Scottish League for membership.
A club can come out of administration (as an individual can come out of a coma) but liquidation of a corporate body is death....

I still hope he gets paid.

Peintre Celebre

Part of Coral's defence is it's a new entity with new owners

mick malones mauser

Anyway back to horses

2 weeks ago I was given 3 horses for Dundalk
Zanjabeel refused to leave stalls
Equation time (non runner)
Full Shilling came 6th

Last week Full shilling ran and won at 9/1

tonight Zanjabeel goes at 5.00 with Smullen up and Equation of Time goes in the 5.30

Might be worth a bet

Imhof Tank

I full agree with MMM but just on the point about Corals not defining what relegation means in their ts&cs, I think it would be clearly implied in any Scottish football bet that "relegation" means relegation in accordance with the SFA rules - which I presume state something like the bottom 2[?] teams in the league at season end are "relegated"

The press release means nothing in a legal sense

HarshOstrich

How does the Irish placepot work because the winning units being multiplied with the winning amount per unit doesn't add up to the total prize fund where as when I do the same thing with Chepstow placepot today it was the exact amount of the total prize fund for Chepstow

mick malones mauser

HarshOstrich wrote: »

How does the Irish placepot work because the winning units being multiplied with the winning amount per unit doesn't add up to the total prize fund where as when I do the same thing with Chepstow placepot today it was the exact amount of the total prize fund for Chepstow

The tote take 20% for themselves, the remainder is divided between the winning units. ..or is it 25%.I forget

BumperD

30% rake.

Peintre Celebre

I can't read Andy holding's tips, I absolutely hate anyone writing like 'John Gosden's charge' 'the son of Galileo'. Read them he will have those two lines in absolutely every tip. Pure filler and irrelevant

HarshOstrich

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

I can't read Andy holding's tips, I absolutely hate anyone writing like 'John Gosden's charge' 'the son of Galileo'. Read them he will have those two lines in absolutely every tip. Pure filler and irrelevant

I listened to his podcast for Dundalk last night , for the first 5 races anyway and they all placed with 2 winners
Hello Humphrey @7/1
Ducchesoflorence @ 11/2
He did put easy boy as his nap and song of love was next best and both where 3rd.

HarshOstrich

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

I can't read Andy holding's tips, I absolutely hate anyone writing like 'John Gosden's charge' 'the son of Galileo'. Read them he will have those two lines in absolutely every tip. Pure filler and irrelevant

I listened to his podcast for Dundalk last night , for the first 5 races anyway and they all placed with 2 winners
Hello Humphrey @7/1
Ducchesoflorence @ 11/2
He did put easy boy as his nap and song of love was next best and both where 3rd.

Peintre Celebre

Ya he said a good tipster just can't read them. The one thing I'd say though is he has absolutely zero concept re price and I mean that. remember a few weeks ago he tipped one at 3/1 at Southwell who looked one of the worst priced horses of the week and had been about 6/1. BSP 7.6

Peintre Celebre

This is our year YNWA

BumperD

Sunday Forum is the best racing news show anywhere.

kfallon

BumperD wrote: »

Sunday Forum is the best racing news show anywhere.

Unless Bob Cooper is presenting it :rolleyes:

Peintre Celebre

Are many people going to Westport tomorrow?

naughto

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Are many people going to Westport tomorrow?

1st thing in the morning

Peintre Celebre

Will you be queuing for the girls early ya

Peintre Celebre

In case you're wondering

naughto

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Will you be queuing for the girls early ya

Big crowd here it's falling nicely it's dole dole for 90 % of the lads.

Vicky Narni, Priya Young and Alexa Brooke Are the ladies incase ye where wondering

byronbay2

naughto wrote: »

Big crowd here it's falling nicely it's dole dole for 90 % of the lads.

Vicky Narni, Priya Young and Alexa Brooke Are the ladies incase ye where wondering

Any chance of pics??

naughto

byronbay2 wrote: »

Any chance of pics??

Ya didn't think I serious did ya sure iam at work

Shemale

Ireland's a joke, a few morons who cant use phones upset a few morons that went rabbling to their local FG moron who runs to the morons in the press and Ireland gets even more headlines to make us look like a country of morons.

Mayo the home of football sour grapes, Enda and this non story involving morons.

Must look up the babestation number and give it a few calls tonight.

naughto

byronbay2 wrote: »

Any chance of pics??

You asked I delivered