Gameweek 16 Transfers.

Lemlin

iroced wrote: »

I have a similar team. Yaya for Hazard. Terry for Mert. Vlaar for B. Turner. Dawson for Chester. Marshall for Harper. (And Gab for Ward but it's kind of the same in the end).

And yes that's already a strong lineup. I missed out on Arsenal CS run. And sold Zab too early. But his replacements (Clyne and later Vlaar) first allowed me to make a little profit, second gave me points. The main problem is they both turned out to be short terms options.

Right now I'm debating the following 2 options:

1. Plan the ideal strikeforce, like yourself. And there are many scenarios to reach it.

a. Bank on Yaya and get Hazard this week. Then downgrade Terry. Vlaar and Dawson could wait if their price don't plummet since they have great gw16 and 19 home fixtures. Get a MCi MF for gw19 onwards.

b. Forget about Chelsea hosting Palace this w-e and slowly downgrading my defence. Cardiff's Marshall being my second keeper I'd go for a cheapie that rotates well with him e.g. CP, Sto, Sun, WBA...

2. Forget about the "ideal" strikeforce and get the popular GK: Howard. He will double up with Coleman, So I'd hope for several Everton CS.
I coulkd always get Hazard for Yaya in addition anyway.



Not sure what you meant exactly but if you played your WC in GW 4 that was during the 1st international break.

I'm taking a wait and see approach. Patience, as I said, is huge for me now. This time last week I alsmost pulled the trigger on Cabaye and Rooney in for Lukaku and Oscar. Instead, I held back, thought about it, decided I wanted Chelsea cover vs Sunderland and ended up going with Hazard which was the right move.

Right now I'm torn between a 4th big mid or having the big three of Ramsey/Ozil/Hazard and then two mids like Fer and Cabaye to rotate. The problem with that is that I'm not a big fan of rotating because you almost always invariably get it wrong. Cabaye and Fer both scored away from home at the weekend for example. I wouldn't have fancied Norwich to get a result at West Brom, whatever about Newcastle at the shambles that is currently United.

iroced

Lemlin wrote: »

The problem with that is that I'm not a big fan of rotating because you almost always invariably get it wrong. Cabaye and Fer both scored away from home at the weekend for example. I wouldn't have fancied Norwich to get a result at West Brom, whatever about Newcastle at the shambles that is currently United.

Tell me about it. Have Mignolet and Boruc from the start. Got Marshall for Boruc 2 GWs ago. Over 15 GWs got my keeper 9 times wrong :eek: !!! Only 4 times I got it right. And twice it was even. Fortunately I have been a lot more inspired with my defense.

In midfiled and upfront I generally prefer having one of the best cheapie performer of the season as my usual bench fodder or fixture dependent starter rather than rotating between 2 or 3 guys. Been burnt in the past with that.
In defense it's trickier. Unless you go for deadwood to fill up your 15-man squad you kind of have to play a little rotation... Especially when Christmas comes you'd like to have 15 "playable" players. On that matter are you not concerned of going to Christmas with only Mignolet available as a GK ? Though it's the safest position to have a deadwood player.

FHFC

FHFC wrote: »

Actually the international windows this year were rubbish for price rises.

A lot of people seem to leave it till after the second international game to do anything and both windows this year feck all happened before that.

The week which was great for wildcarding (which I ended up doing by pure good fortune) was week 4, after the first international window but also after the transfer deadline.

The transferring and price rises that week were huge, I made about 1m in the week. Thats when I'll be doing the early WC any other year.

Sorry, it was GW 5 actually. My team value went from 101.8 to 103.2.

And I signed Ramsey... :cool:

FHFC

Lemlin wrote: »

Right now I'm torn between a 4th big mid or having the big three of Ramsey/Ozil/Hazard and then two mids like Fer and Cabaye to rotate. The problem with that is that I'm not a big fan of rotating because you almost always invariably get it wrong. Cabaye and Fer both scored away from home at the weekend for example. I wouldn't have fancied Norwich to get a result at West Brom, whatever about Newcastle at the shambles that is currently United.

Am looking at if its possible to have the Rooney/Aguero/Suarez holy trinity and 4 big mids. I can do it but not with Ozil with defence downgraded to 1 big defence (Merts, Terry etc) with Howard in goal.

Then I can fit a midfield of Ramsey, Yaya/Silva, Walcott, Hazard and Bannan.

That depends on Walcott getting back in the team of course but could afford anyone except Ozil.

If I went for Coutinho as one of the 4 mids I could afford Ozil.

Hmmmm, I wonder? Prob more of a plan for Jan wildcard though...

Lemlin

iroced wrote: »

Tell me about it. Have Mignolet and Boruc from the start. Got Marshall for Boruc 2 GWs ago. Over 15 GWs got my keeper 9 times wrong :eek: !!! Only 4 times I got it right. And twice it was even. Fortunately I have been a lot more inspired with my defense.

In midfiled and upfront I generally prefer having one of the best cheapie performer of the season as my usual bench fodder or fixture dependent starter rather than rotating between 2 or 3 guys. Been burnt in the past with that.
In defense it's trickier. Unless you go for deadwood to fill up your 15-man squad you kind of have to play a little rotation... Especially when Christmas comes you'd like to have 15 "playable" players. On that matter are you not concerned of going to Christmas with only Mignolet available as a GK ? Though it's the safest position to have a deadwood player.

It's rare that teams rotate their goalkeeper. They only tend to do it at the end of the season to give the subs a run out and when the competition side of things may be over e.g. last season.

That said, getting a sub 'keeper into the team is in my plans when I get a chance. I'm not willing to take a 4 point hit for one.

iroced

FHFC wrote: »

Am looking at if its possible to have the Rooney/Aguero/Suarez holy trinity and 4 big mids. I can do it but not with Ozil with defence downgraded to 1 big defence (Merts, Terry etc) with Howard in goal.

Then I can fit a midfield of Ramsey, Yaya/Silva, Walcott, Hazard and Bannan.

Just out of curiosity which defense you get with Roo/Ag/Su upfront and Ram/Yaya/Walc/Haz/Ban in midfield considering you also have Howard in goal?

FHFC

iroced wrote: »

Just out of curiosity which defense you get with Roo/Ag/Su upfront and Ram/Yaya/Walc/Haz/Ban in midfield considering you also have Howard in goal?

Williamson, B Turner, Chester, Gabidon, Merts. I think I could afford Terry either, but I have both for a while so prob couldn't afford to but one of them back if I sold them.

machiavellianme

That defence doesn't look so bad.
How much is your team worth?
I had a look at that setup and can only just about manage - and that's with my team worth 112.5m!
Plus I have Rooney/Aguero/Suarez/Ramsey/Yaya from their lowest price points

FHFC

machiavellianme wrote: »

That defence doesn't look so bad.
How much is your team worth?
I had a look at that setup and can only just about manage - and that's with my team worth 112.5m!
Plus I have Rooney/Aguero/Suarez/Ramsey/Yaya from their lowest price points

Odd, I'm only at 109.5 or so. Had Ramsey, Suarez, Hazard and Aguero early,but only got Rooney lately, never had Yaya. Had Chester from start and stubbornly lost 0.2 on him!

This is what it looks like and I've 0.5m to spare so Yaya or silva work, I'm now leaning towards silva...too many changes needed to get there though so probably a Jan plan, and by then everything will be different!

machiavellianme

Wait a minute, just realised that by dropping Krul for Gazzinaga I could have:

Szczesny / Gazzaniga
Coleman / Williamson / Vlaar / Gabbidon / Chester
Morrison / Özil / Yaya Touré / Ramsey / Hazard
Rooney / Agüero / Suarez

Tempting! But not for a 16pt hit!

Currently have:
Szczesny / Krul
Coleman / Mertesacker / Terry / Gabbidon / Vlaar
Morrison / Fer / Yaya Touré / Ramsey / Hazard
Rooney / Agüero / Suarez

Danger781

Would I be mad to consider Dawson OUT, Evans or Williamson IN?

Dawson due a drop so tempted to just bank the 0.2 profit I've made on him. Better off keeping him for the season?

FHFC

Danger781 wrote: »

Would I be mad to consider Dawson OUT, Evans or Williamson IN?

Dawson due a drop so tempted to just bank the 0.2 profit I've made on him. Better off keeping him for the season?

He was going to be the last out of my denser downgrading. All long as he kept his place anyway.

Spurs improving event though they've kept conceding as yet. But thei r next 3 homes after Liverpool at good for CS potential. Will prob keep him till Jan wc

Danger781

FHFC wrote: »

He was going to be the last out of my denser downgrading. All long as he kept his place anyway.

Spurs improving event though they've kept conceding as yet. But thei r next 3 homes after Liverpool at good for CS potential. Will prob keep him till Jan wc

Keep in mind I've already used my FT. This is a -4 hit.

I've got some thinking to do

Tottenham will surely keep a considerable amount of CS over the course of the season. Considering I brought him in at 5.0 I'm not losing anything on him per se, other than profit that could be used elsewhere. In fact I'm currently 0.2 short of bringing in Silva for Navas so it seems like the perfect transfer.

On top of that, it will give me decent defender to play this week. I am not playing Dawson up against Suarez, which leaves me with Vlaar against United. Not sure which one of those two is worse to be honest. At least Evans has a chance of a CS.

iroced

machiavellianme wrote: »

Wait a minute, just realised that by dropping Krul for Gazzinaga I could have:

Szczesny / Gazzaniga
Coleman / Williamson / Vlaar / Gabbidon / Chester
Morrison / Özil / Yaya Touré / Ramsey / Hazard
Rooney / Agüero / Suarez

Tempting! But not for a 16pt hit!

Currently have:
Szczesny / Krul
Coleman / Mertesacker / Terry / Gabbidon / Vlaar
Morrison / Fer / Yaya Touré / Ramsey / Hazard
Rooney / Agüero / Suarez

That's a strong looking team. You must be highly ranked.

There's no rush to get your "ideal" team. You have two weeks to get Ozil in and he's not rising in price. Gives you time to downgrade the appropriate players at the best time.

FHFC

Lads,

As I said above I need to either do Gerrard to Silva or Brady to a mid range midfielder for this weekend.

I'm struggling to settle on the best 6.5 to 7.5ish mid for the Xmas period. Options I'm considering are:

Mirallas. Would prefer him given Evertons for and fixtures but dunno if I can take the game time risk at this time of year with him, Delofeu and Pienaar sharing 3 spots. He could be a great signing though.

Fer. Just not convinced by a Norwich attacker, despite the stats. He's scored big last week, can't see him doing it every week. But good fixtures, and those stats. Rising tonight, need to get my skates on if doing it.

Paulinho. Another eith great shooting stats, and Spurs attack starting to come round. Their overall shots is a high number too.

Alfred Borden

really dont know what transfer to make, my save it up and see how terry does this weekend, might swap him out for a united defender with their good fixtures and will have money left over to upgrade midfield

Panthro

It appears that I did in fact panic over the weekend, and did not imagine taking a 12point hit.
Ahh well.

Remy --> Lukaku
Gerrard --> Hazard
Oscar --> Nasri
Lovren --> Distin

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Mignolet

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----Coleman--Distin--Terry

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Morrison--Nasri--Ramsey--Hazard

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Suárez--Lukaku--Agüero---

Boruc--Brady--Vlaar--Whittaker

FHFC

Leaving it for tonight, want to see FFS cup draw too, hurry up lads.

Leaning towards midfield of Ramsey, Silva, Hazard, Mirallas, Morrison for now. With a very close eye on Walcott getting game time.

PARlance

FHFC wrote: »

Lads,

As I said above I need to either do Gerrard to Silva or Brady to a mid range midfielder for this weekend.

I'm struggling to settle on the best 6.5 to 7.5ish mid for the Xmas period. Options I'm considering are:

Mirallas. Would prefer him given Evertons for and fixtures but dunno if I can take the game time risk at this time of year with him, Delofeu and Pienaar sharing 3 spots. He could be a great signing though.

Fer. Just not convinced by a Norwich attacker, despite the stats. He's scored big last week, can't see him doing it every week. But good fixtures, and those stats. Rising tonight, need to get my skates on if doing it.

Paulinho. Another eith great shooting stats, and Spurs attack starting to come round. Their overall shots is a high number too.

I'm in similar position and I'm edging towards Paulinho... I don't know why though. It's too close, Mirallas would have been way out in front but gametime is a big worry.

Mr.Prodston

I'm really unsure over what transfer to make this week.



Obviously Gerrard has to go which means that Ramsey will have to stay (my comrades will understand not transferring him out at a hit) which leaves me another problem in that I'll have to play the little bugger. I want to play Howson and Ravel this week however logical or illogical it is, I won't have them much longer most likely and have a feeling they could finally do something for me. Trust and patience even if I do plan to offload them soon.

I won't take a hit while I'm still in with a shout of qualifying in the FSA Champions League and therein lies my problem. I want to make about 3/4 changes and so I'd be quite happy to bank my transfer for this week but Chelsea scare me and I should really get my .1 out of Gerrard at the very least. Williams to Chester is a transfer high on my list too. Next week could be fun :pac:

I'm probably 24 hours early posting this with a lot to happen with Chelsea etc but just trying to work out where I'm going and even typing it out can make me see sense and any advice would be most welcome.

iroced

If I were you I'd forget about your illogical logic of playing both Howson and Ravel (^^) and get Hazard in for Gerrard. Long term imvestment. Should be immediate positive effects starting this week-end .
Your defense is far good enough for this GW (Coleman and both Turner should make you happy ). You can focus on it next week.

moreau

IMO Def Hazard for Gerrard , Mr P.

Don't overthink it:)

Lemlin

Raf32 wrote: »

really dont know what transfer to make, my save it up and see how terry does this weekend, might swap him out for a united defender with their good fixtures and will have money left over to upgrade midfield

They way United are defending, there are no "good" fixtures for that defence. United have also been rotating so I honestly can't see why ahead of Xmas someone would go with a United defender over a Hull, Crystal Palace, Cardiff or Norwich defender.

They're all a million less as well.

Contemplating some surgery

Mig -> Howard (great fixtures for Howard)
Johnson -> Olsson (Norwich)
Gerrard -> Hazard

hmmm

Lemlin

Deleted User wrote: »

Contemplating some surgery

Mig -> Howard (great fixtures for Howard)
Johnson -> Olsson (Norwich)
Gerrard -> Hazard

hmmm

If it was me, I'd hold off on Mig to Howard if it's an eight point hit. I presume you are doing Johnson to Olsson to free up some cash for Gerrard to Hazard?

I honestly think Mig has a decent chance of some decent save points this weekend, if not a clean sheet. Spurs are brutal at shooting at the minute.

Cantona's Collars

Lemlin wrote: »

If it was me, I'd hold off on Mig to Howard if it's an eight point hit. I presume you are doing Johnson to Olsson to free up some cash for Gerrard to Hazard?

I honestly think Mig has a decent chance of some decent save points this weekend, if not a clean sheet. Spurs are brutal at shooting at the minute.

Just reading that Liverpool have a poor record at WHL.I ditched Mig as the best he was managing was 1 or 2 points with the odd 3 pointer for saves bonus.Too expensive for those returns.

Nerdlingr

Lukaku in for Remy? No-brainer right? Everton have a nice run of games coming up.

Mr.Prodston

iroced wrote: »

If I were you I'd forget about your illogical logic of playing both Howson and Ravel (^^) and get Hazard in for Gerrard. Long term imvestment. Should be immediate positive effects starting this week-end .
Your defense is far good enough for this GW (Coleman and both Turner should make you happy ). You can focus on it next week.

moreau wrote: »

IMO Def Hazard for Gerrard , Mr P.

Don't overthink it:)

Haha cheers, this is why I knew I should put my crazy hipster notions in public to get some sense knocked into me. I just have the fear that Howson will score, he's gone very close to getting attacking returns nearly every week recently and Ravel at home to Sunderland playing in the hole most likely too. Maybe Ramsey will get injured tonight and help me out

I'm still waiting until after the game and I'm considering Oscar as I could then afford Silva in a GW or 2 also.

Lemlin

zerks wrote: »

Just reading that Liverpool have a poor record at WHL.I ditched Mig as the best he was managing was 1 or 2 points with the odd 3 pointer for saves bonus.Too expensive for those returns.

I agree he is expensive for the returns but I wouldn't agree with a 4 point hit to take him out either.

He's on the chopping block for me also but I'm happy enough to hold off for now as other transfers are taking precedence and I really don't think getting him out is worth a deduction.

Lemlin

Lemlin wrote: »

If it was me, I'd hold off on Mig to Howard if it's an eight point hit. I presume you are doing Johnson to Olsson to free up some cash for Gerrard to Hazard?

I honestly think Mig has a decent chance of some decent save points this weekend, if not a clean sheet. Spurs are brutal at shooting at the minute.

4 point hit only.

Johnson to Olsson for cashola indeed