What percentage of traffic lights ignore cyclists?

Macy0161

Woodround wrote: »

They seem to work for everyone else except me! Lame attempt at a joke...

buffalo

Gongoozler wrote: »

An odd one for you - the lights at the top of Grafton Street. I was stopped at them one day as they were on green for pedestrians. I waited and waited. I would have timed it only for I wasn't expecting it. I'd estimate i waited about 2.5 mins until a taxi came up behind me and they changed.

Not one you'll come across often given the traffic of the area, but it's a bloody long wait when you do.

The top or the bottom of Grafton St?

beauf

I assume its the one at the entrance to stephen green its a long green for pedestrians. Annoyingly cars queue single file where theres room for two cars to get through at a time. Very short green for cars (and bikes)

Chips Lovell

ozzy jr wrote: »

Not sure where you cycle, but the crossroads at Johnny Foxs is one (turning right on to Ballybrack road, with the pub on your left).

Regularly go through that junction. Never happened to me.

beauf wrote: »

I assume its the one at the entrance to stephen green its a long green for pedestrians. Annoyingly cars queue single file where theres room for two cars to get through at a time. Very short green for cars (and bikes)

Yes, it's a short green for all traffic on that one.

Gongoozler

As I said, the top of Grafton Street. As you're going on to Suffolk St.

buffalo

Gongoozler wrote: »

As I said, the top of Grafton Street. As you're going on to Suffolk St.

That's the bottom. </pedant>

Doctor Bob

buffalo wrote: »

That's the bottom. </pedant>

Geographical top, elevational bottom?

beauf wrote: »

I assume its the one at the entrance to stephen green its a long green for pedestrians. Annoyingly cars queue single file where theres room for two cars to get through at a time. Very short green for cars (and bikes)

There might be space for cars to queue side by side, but they're both aiming for the same one lane. It's a classic DCC device- double up at the stop line and let the users sort themselves out once they've crossed it. But it won't last for long as the Luas Cross City works will turn that area on its head.

On topic- the east end of Eglinton Road in Donnybrook doesn't detect cyclists, but as with others it's only apparent in the wee small hours. An additional problem at that junction is the lack of east-west pedestrian crossings on the N11, so even the option to cross as a pedestrian isn't available.

ozzy jr

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Regularly go through that junction. Never happened to me.

From which side though? It just happens on the side where you come down the hill towards the pub. There's no problems coming from the other sides.

Gongoozler

Never understood the top/bottom of streets are others seem to, so just call that the top as it's what's I've heard everyone else refer to it as. I would always call the top as it looks on a map, North wise

Chips Lovell

ozzy jr wrote: »

From which side though? It just happens on the side where you come down the hill towards the pub. There's no problems coming from the other sides.

I'd be most frequently coming from the side you mention.

ozzy jr

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I'd be most frequently coming from the side you mention.

Strange, it never changes for me there.

RayCun

Gongoozler wrote: »

Never understood the top/bottom of streets are others seem to, so just call that the top as it's what's I've heard everyone else refer to it as. I would always call the top as it looks on a map, North wise

Dublin streets go down to the river, and down to the sea

buffalo

RayCun wrote: »

Dublin streets go down to the river, and down to the sea

Exactly. Same with Upper/Lower, all depends on the river basin. So the bottom of Grafton St is the northern end, but the bottom of O'Connell St is the southern end.

Ignore the canals, they're ****.

beauf

Doctor Bob wrote: »

There might be space for cars to queue side by side, but they're both aiming for the same one lane. ....

At least you'd get twice the throughput before you have to merge.

People from northern counties saying up to Dublin just wrecks my head.

Grafton st is uphill to my mind.

Spook_ie

beauf wrote: »

At least you'd get twice the throughput before you have to merge.

People from northern counties saying up to Dublin just wrecks my head.

Grafton st is uphill to my mind.

Old hang back to railways, the up line being the line to Dublin

Why Up and Down?
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It's simply a remnant of history. Railways were first introduced in the 18th century to help get coal from mines. Wagons, with their wheels running on specially laid tracks, were pulled by men or horses from the mine to the shipping point. The bulk of coal was sent by sea because roads were so bad.

Tracks were laid from mines to docks. Normally, the mines were inland and higher than sea level, so the coal was transported down to sea level where the docks were. Thus, the direction away from the mine became known as "down" and the return trip as "up". Now, "down" is the track leading away from the main terminus (usually London), while the "up" track is towards London.

<snipped>

http://railway-technical.blogspot.ie/2011/08/why-up-and-down.html


Re Grafton St. surely only uphill in one direction, downhill in the other

Situated on the south side of the River Liffey, Grafton Street is beyond compare when it comes to shopping in Dublin. The street is pedestrian only for much of its length which stretches from St Stephen’s Green to College Green. There is a slight gradient uphill as you walk towards St Stephen’s Green with shops of all description on either side.

http://www.malonecarrental.com/aboutgraftonstreet.php

Doctor Bob

beauf wrote: »

At least you'd get twice the throughput before you have to merge.

I'm not sure I'd agree. I use that junction a couple of times a week at least (and always stop at the red), and it's tricky enough dealing with a single queue of cars attempting to overtake me on the bend approaching Surgeons without the added hassle of two lines of cars trying to get the jump on each other.

It's not as if this is a major junction in the city either- it leads to a car park and a very narrow laneway.

I've no problem with the principle of providing for vehicular capacity in a managed way, but it should never be done at the expense of the safety of other road users.

beauf

TBH its not on the route I use as a cyclist. I wasn't thinking of it from that perspective.

I dunno about major junction. But its very busy because its an escape route for cars going around Stephens green. Otherwise they are swept back into the one way system in the other direction (out of town). And they've entered it a long way back at the corner of Harcourt Street. The only alternative is down Westland row, or back all the way to cuffe street.

Not sure how you get here. Unless you work on the green it would seem exiting via cuffe street would be your route.

radia

buffalo wrote: »

Try Stephen's Green east to Earlsfort Terrace - waited through two sequences of lights there last night before giving up. Usually a bus would come along, but I must've timed it wrongly.

Yes, that one's now a complete pain for me, because I regularly cycle that way at hours when there is virtually no motorised traffic.
It's made all the more annoying by the fact that it used to be sensitive enough to detect a bike if you cycled anywhere in the lane, unlike some other junctions where you need to cycle along the tar lines where the loop was inserted.

Iwannahurl

Another traffic signal in Galway to add to the list, this one in the Claddagh.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87892311&postcount=40