Shamrock Rovers to enter B Side in First Division

overshoot

Gavin shels wrote: »

I'd be leaning towards Galway in the Premier over Wexford to start tbh.

jesus no!!!
iv had enough of the city teams folding and re-emerging in D1 back at zero rather than sucking it up and taking the pain. Limerick, galway, cork and derry have a combined age equal to my bloody dog!
Plenty of clubs have kept trodding along and actually sucked it up, bohs right now, shams, mons & cobh of teams who have really done it in the past few years but stayed alive. Sligo cleared a lot of debt early 2000s as they languished mid D1

we supposedly need them but the longest cork franchise was 25 years! this repeated folding is what the league as a whole doesnt need! they should start at the bottom (remember cork & derry got to skip the A championship when their was a promotion system in place from it), make them operate as amateurs for 5 years and maybe then they will start to operate within their means and stop making the league a laughing stock

*i will however acknowledge the extreme efforts of GUST and FORAS to save their respective clubs

For the poster asking about a Tipp team on the southern region, how about Kildare County and their massive following come back on board?

overshoot

Omackeral wrote: »

For the poster asking about a Tipp team on the southern region, how about Kildare County and their massive following come back on board?

i hear sarcasm in this but it would balance my south division nicely which only has 9! :pac: lets just give them their real name though and call them newbridge.

anyway iv given 28 teams that were all there in the last 3 years! 3 leagues we cant provide 2 at present! of course the proposal could weaken the second tier but the idea is to make it more accessible to other clubs!

i could always allow mervue and salthill in to get the even 30 but they might earn promotion to the main league again

shanec1928

overshoot wrote: »

jesus no!!!
iv had enough of the city teams folding and re-emerging in D1 back at zero rather than sucking it up and taking the pain. Limerick, galway, cork and derry have a combined age equal to my bloody dog!
Plenty of clubs have kept trodding along and actually sucked it up, bohs right now, shams, mons & cobh of teams who have really done it in the past few years but stayed alive. Sligo cleared a lot of debt early 2000s as they languished mid D1

we supposedly need them but the longest cork franchise was 25 years! this repeated folding is what the league as a whole doesnt need! they should start at the bottom (remember cork & derry got to skip the A championship when their was a promotion system in place from it), make them operate as amateurs for 5 years and maybe then they will start to operate within their means and stop making the league a laughing stock

*i will however acknowledge the extreme efforts of GUST and FORAS to save their respective clubs

by letting the club fold...

ben.schlomo

shanec1928 wrote: »

by letting the club fold...

Always wonder why ill informed people bother commenting on things they clearly fail to grasp.

Augmerson

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Always wonder why ill informed people bother commenting on things they clearly fail to grasp.

Thinly veiled you are stupid shut up post.

Lawrence1895

In terms of gate money, why not. I suppose, they will bring a decent away crowd.

Vision of Disorder

I would much prefer to see a new club (or several of them) entering the First Division than Shamrock Rovers B. That said I much rather the division have eight teams including Shamrock Rovers B than try and function with just seven.

When people are proposing alternatives though it would be helpful if they didn't include makey-uppy fantasy clubs to save the league (a la the return of Kilkenny/Monaghan/whomever).

I'd much prefer to have a league set up akin to Scotland or something like that in terms of numbers but let us not delude ourselves that there's dozens of clubs out there chomping at the bit to play senior ball. That's just not the reality of the situation. If Tralee and Carlow hadn't been shunted aside last time round we might be in a better place now. Or they might have gone the way of Fingal too!

overshoot

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Always wonder why ill informed people bother commenting on things they clearly fail to grasp.

as much as i get all the back storey does it matter? does it reflect well on the league that the combined total age of clubs in cork, limerick, galway & derry is about 15? does it look well that this carry on is allowed?

EPL posters are blasted for offering franchise Fcs, but if all they hear is x league of ireland team has been dissolved whats the point in showing an interest? the LOI has issues beyond the FAI

i basically threw up the 2011 league structure minus division one... kilkenny at least had rumours of a revival a few years ago, mons still exist just not at senior level, they could have gone the way of cobh if they had the option and im sorry to those i offended for throwing in 1 new team! The others at least did show an interest in playing at that level and may do again.

would it work, christ knows but im bored just blaming the FAI, at least shout alternatives as the current system will lead us back to one division soon enough

Gavin "shels"

Vision of Disorder wrote: »

I would much prefer to see a new club (or several of them) entering the First Division than Shamrock Rovers B

What sane Board of Management would join the LoI?

overshoot wrote: »

i basically threw up the 2011 league structure minus division one... kilkenny at least had rumours of a revival a few years ago,

Something that always stays with me is in Kilkenny for our first trip there in 2007 we asked a group of kids playing football/wearing Man Utd, etc... gear where Buckley Park was, they had never heard of it and looked at us like we had 10 heads. Turns out we were 5 mins down the road (for anyone who hasn't been to Buckley Park it's at the back of a corn field basically).

born2bwild

Augmerson wrote: »

Thinly veiled you are stupid shut up post.

If you read this post like Yoda it has a different meaning.

Captain Havoc

The rumors of Kilkenny City's return was a few fans setting up a facebook page, definitely a story with no solid foundation.

dreamers75

Dont get Paul Lennons point

http://www.thestar.ie/star/a-rovers-team-in-the-first-division-would-be-a-sham-36753/

Surely any decent under 19s player will stay in the premier if hes decent. Plus with the under 15/17 elite leagues in the offing they would be best off staying where they are.