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Biggest/Favourite Twists in games?

  • 18-11-2013 2:39am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭


    Me, I love a good Mindfu*k
    Whats your favourite twist in gaming history; be it the shocker when it was revealed that the Princess was in another Castle in Mario or something much more mundane. (Also there may be a Spoiler or two below)

    While it wasn't massive I'd say my favourite twist of sorts would be in Spec Ops: The Line
    Okay I'm downplaying the twist for those who haven't had the honor of playing it yet but Imo that ending was like *head explodes* Probably the most enjoyable narrative in a game I have ever played though. The multiple choice endings were excellent and the choices you're given of "killing Konrad", letting him "kill" you or killing yourself was so well done. The game wasn't afraid of depicting war as barbaric which is avoided too often in gaming imo.

    CoD MW2 When Sheppard Betrays Ghost is pretty shocking too. I Never thought I could have had an emotional attachment to a CoD character till that fateful day :'(

    Anyone have any favourites?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    "Would you kindly?"

    Perhaps not my favourite but it's the one that always pops into my head when I hear people talk about twists.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    The big one in Knights of the Old Republic was good. Definitely didn't see that coming when i played it originally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    The darkness. You know the scene I'm talking about...

    First time I'd shed a tear over a videogame since Aeris.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    The Shodan revelation in System Shock 2. Very well set up and executed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Gokei


    Wesker, the bastard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    FFVII Aeris wtf??? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    FFVII Aeris wtf??? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    that isn't a twist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,733 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "Snake, you've been talking to..."
    "Me... dear brother"

    Metal Gear Solid 1. Probably the first game I ever played where I realised the story was important in games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    that isn't a twist.

    Of course it was.

    Killing a main character like that might happen more nowadays, but storytelling in gaming was in it's infancy back then and it was fairly shocking. You expect the characters that you play as and control to stay alive for the whole game. That's just how things worked back then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Kirby wrote: »
    Of course it was.

    Killing a main character like that might happen more nowadays, but storytelling in gaming was in it's infancy back then and it was fairly shocking. You expect the characters that you play as and control to stay alive for the whole game. That's just how things worked back then.

    No.

    A twist will make you think differently about the previous hours of gameplay.

    Aeris dying was a shock, and a great story moment, but it is not a twist. It doesn't 'twist' the story.

    Cloud being a clone and his memories being fake was a twist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    While not massively a twist the RAT PATROL 01 thing in MGS4 being an anagram was pretty cool. That and who big mama actually was (It wasn't exactly hidden from the player for too long tbf still a twist nontheless) Two highlights in what was ultimately a somewhat let down of a story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    I thought the twist early on in Assassin's Creed 3 was great.
    For those that have played it, were you expecting something awful to happen to Connors father making him become an assassin, but then Haytham turns out to be a Templar and one of the main bad guys of the game, did not see that coming. Good move, making us like him, then twist, he is the bad guy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Randall Floyd


    Silent Hill 2, what James did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    "Would you kindly" for me too, that was excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,966 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Silent Hill 2, what James did.

    Yes....Yes this wins. Still think about that mindf*ck of an ending every now and then.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Metal gear solid
    when you find liquid is master miller in the first metal gear solid
    my poor stomach did somersaults!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Kirby wrote: »
    Of course it was.

    Killing a main character like that might happen more nowadays, but storytelling in gaming was in it's infancy back then and it was fairly shocking. You expect the characters that you play as and control to stay alive for the whole game. That's just how things worked back then.

    It was actually very derivative at release... if you lived in Japan. That moment in FFVII was a reaction to the phantasy star series and Dragon Quest which pulled off similar twists, and did them a whole lot better might I add. FFVII was playing catch up.

    Phantasy Star was never popular here and the west didn't see a Dragon Quest game after 4 until 8 on the PS2 so for most westerners, myself included, it was quite a shock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    when you find liquid is master miller in the first metal gear solid
    my poor stomach did somersaults!

    :pac: whats the sense in spoilering the post without mentioning which game its a spoiler for. I read that with total fear it would spoil a game I've yet to play :P
    I was so young when I played that but I still had a mindplosion moment :P


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    :pac: whats the sense in spoilering the post without mentioning which game its a spoiler for. I read that with total fear it would spoil a game I've yet to play :P
    I was so young when I played that but I still had a mindplosion moment :P

    forgot to put it in :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    forgot to put it in :o

    Don't worry. I still love you brochacho


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Etrian Odyssey:
    The labyrinth was a post apocalyptic Tokyo!

    Deadly Premonition:
    Just the whole end of the game when all the bizarre craziness actually starts making sense.

    Nier: The way new game + completely changes your view of the story.
    You were pretty much destroying humanities last hope of survival and committing genocide.

    Xenoblade Chronicles: The ending was just superb.
    The whole revelation about how the world was created was brilliant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Metal gear solid 1 and 2
    : fight with pyscho mantis was a complete mind**** with his mind powers changing your channel and rumbling your controller and everything about mgs 2 how its basically a lead to confuse and anger raiden and the player into believing you are saving the president from terriorits but in truth in was just a snake simulator mission and kojima trolling you.


    Silent hill 2:
    what james did

    Braid:
    you are thinking you were saving the princess but in truth you were the monster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Kirby wrote: »
    "Would you kindly?"

    Perhaps not my favourite but it's the one that always pops into my head when I hear people talk about twists.

    I'm still peeved that this twist was revealed to me about 2 hours before actually experiencing it myself so sadly I can't really call it a twist. I've only myself to blame though having only played the game for the first time this year.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Metal Gear 2 :
    Who is this Blonde guy ? Why am I not Snake ?!

    Recently Far Cry 3 :
    Kill your friends = sex with hot lady...good times !!...then she kills me...wtf !!...didn't see that coming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Recently Far Cry 3 :
    Kill your friends = sex with hot lady...good times !!...then she kills me...wtf !!...didn't see that coming

    To be fair everything you knew about her and the islanders led me to believe that's exactly what would happen. I think most people were dubious and wary at the point. If that came as a surprise than I'm not sure you were paying attention throughout the game. They were f*cking crazy. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Most of my past favourites have already been mentioned but from this year I would say the whole last 15 - 20 mins of Bioshock Infinite. My mind was blown after that. :D
    “There’s always a lighthouse. There’s always a man. There’s always a city”

    Edit: Just thought of another two. Virtue's Last Reward is full of twists.. far too many to go through and yet still has a story that works

    And Shadow of the Colossus where you slowly begin to realise
    You are the bad guy
    and it reveals
    It's link to Ico


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭ProjectColossus


    Perhaps less of a twist and more of a plot development, but the part in Beyond Good and Evil where
    the lighthouse sanctuary is attacked/destroyed and all the orphans are kidnapped
    was quite a surprise, and very well executed. The game had more traditional plot twists - double agents, secret identities and the like, but the spoilered part had proper emotional impact and was a major highlight in a great game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Kirby wrote: »
    To be fair everything you knew about her and the islanders led me to believe that's exactly what would happen. I think most people were dubious and wary at the point. If that came as a surprise than I'm not sure you were paying attention throughout the game. They were f*cking crazy. :P

    But I loved her....:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭Not The Real Scarecrow


    The bit in Pacman where
    he eats the differently colored dot and eats a ghost.
    Totally changed my whole perception of reality:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Pong, where you are having a nice casual relaxing game and suddenly s*** gets real fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Braid:
    you are thinking you were saving the princess but in truth you were the monster

    I love that game. I have no idea what its about though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Grimebox wrote: »
    I love that game. I have no idea what its about though.

    The Manhattan Project apparently.

    I'm not making it up and I'm also just as confused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    The Manhattan Project apparently.

    I'm not making it up and I'm also just as confused.

    I read that explanation too. Still don't get it


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    That bit, about half way through TloU, and something horrible happens to a character you have grown attached to.
    And the worst thing is its prefaced, innocently with a conversation that sounds so innocuous beforehand, but a mere minute later becomes one of the saddest things I have ever come across in any media, a thing that will probably stay with me a long time.
    Bring a tear to a glass eye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    That bit, about half way through TloU, and something horrible happens to a character you have grown attached to.
    And the worst thing is its prefaced, innocently with a conversation that sounds so innocuous beforehand, but a mere minute later becomes one of the saddest things I have ever come across in any media, a thing that will probably stay with me a long time.
    Bring a tear to a glass eye.

    Its so weird I was gonna post about TLOU in this as I'm playing through it again but I was gonna mention
    the ending. Was full on sure that we were letting Ellie go for a stage. Is it Tess you are on about?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    No, the part of game that knocked me for six, was when
    Sam having the chat with Ellie, about what happens to peoples souls when they are bitten, are they still in there or are they just gone, and she replies that, underneath it all, she thinks they are just gone, and with that she leaves Sam, who then, alone, examines a bite from an infected on his leg, then we see the next morning and the sight of Ellie finding Sam turned and what ensues from that moment. The horrible thing wasn't Sams execution at the hands of his older brother, and Henry's subsequent suicide, but the way the conversation the previous night took on a whole more desperate tone, a child looking to know if his soul would live on somehow, or would it be trapped inside a monster or be just gone, and getting no comfort from another child who had no idea, then Sam spending his last night as himself alone
    , it still makes me shiver and marks the point in the game, for me, when it went from being another survival horror, Resident Evil/Uncharted mashup to being something far more grown up, a game that asks a lot more of the audience than a tolerance for gore and jump scares.

    Also, the scenes with Ellie as the explorer in the snow were amazing, I could have played an entire game like that, reminded me of the film Hanna.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭sarumite


    While not the greatest twist, I didn't see the end of dead space coming.


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