Moneybookers/Skrill

P.Walnuts

Well lads

Looking for a bit of advice, I have 3 accounts (PP, B365, Betfair) and keep funds in each independent of one another. My stakes are a % of bank, so I find if one account goes low I become a little limited. I do it this way to avoid multiple transactions on my bank statement.

Anyway, i'd like to pool my online cash in moneybookers and then deposit when needed into whichever account i'm going to bet on. Is there anything I should look out for before setting up an account?

The way i'm thinking of doing it will mean multiple transactions on accounts per day (depending if i bet of course) as in stake deposited in, winnings (hopefully ) withdrawn back out to moneybookers.

Does this sound reasonable?

Cheers

Mezcita

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Well lads

Looking for a bit of advice, I have 3 accounts (PP, B365, Betfair) and keep funds in each independent of one another. My stakes are a % of bank, so I find if one account goes low I become a little limited. I do it this way to avoid multiple transactions on my bank statement.

Anyway, i'd like to pool my online cash in moneybookers and then deposit when needed into whichever account i'm going to bet on. Is there anything I should look out for before setting up an account?

The way i'm thinking of doing it will mean multiple transactions on accounts per day (depending if i bet of course) as in stake deposited in, winnings (hopefully ) withdrawn back out to moneybookers.

Does this sound reasonable?

Cheers

Should be fine. Paddy Power withdrawals to Moneybookers go through in under an hour normally. Betfair about a day.

Only potential problem might be constantly removing your balance from each bookie each day. Betdaq gave out to me about that.

Finally, get a security fob off moneybookers for added protection on your account.

P.Walnuts

Mezcita wrote: »

Should be fine. Paddy Power withdrawals to Moneybookers go through in under an hour normally. Betfair about a day.

Only potential problem might be constantly removing your balance from each bookie each day. Betdaq gave out to me about that.

Finally, get a security fob off moneybookers for added protection on your account.

Cheers man

What's a security fob?

Also I asked on chat for PP and B365 how multiple withdrawals would be viewed, they said no problem so hopefully there a good as their word.

Mezcita

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Cheers man

What's a security fob?

Also I asked on chat for PP and B365 how multiple withdrawals would be viewed, they said no problem so hopefully there a good as their word.

No worries.

The security fob is a token thing that they send out to you which is a bit like the ones banks use for online banking security. Basically means that every time you lodge money with your Moneybookers account you have to use the token to randomly generate a number. Good in case your account gets hacked.

https://www.skrill.com/en/vip/support/#token

You can get a moneybookers card as well and use it to withdraw cash if you wish

Samba

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Well lads

The way i'm thinking of doing it will mean multiple transactions on accounts per day (depending if i bet of course) as in stake deposited in, winnings (hopefully ) withdrawn back out to moneybookers.

Does this sound reasonable?

Cheers

Perfectly resonable, just make sure to get your account fully verified first, as you'll be restricted to small transactions until you get the letter and bank verification sorted.

Mezcita wrote: »

Only potential problem might be constantly removing your balance from each bookie each day. Betdaq gave out to me about that.

Finally, get a security fob off moneybookers for added protection on your account.

This is where you might have a problem, bookies pay fees to process transactions and that's why they were giving out, if you abuse this some may remove Skrill as deposit/withdrawal option.

You won't get the security token unless you have VIP status with skrill.

The best thing about skrill is you can earn cashback on deposits, friend of mine runs this site, you can get new or existing accounts tagged for cashback, it gets paid directly to your skrill account on a monthly basis.

I've arranged a special rate of 0.5% cashback on all deposits for anyone who uses promo code boards, existing accounts can also sign up np, just follow the link above.

To get your VIP status activated you need to deposit 2k in 30 days and contact them to let them know.

I'm signed up for this myself, haven't had any problems depositing/withdrawing and cashback gets paid out like clockwork.

If anyone needs any more info, just send me a pm, it's free money tbh and any half serious gambler should have this set up imo.

P.Walnuts

Cheers for all the help lads, account is up and running and going well.

Sparticous

hello iv just got myself one of these skrill cards if i win a bet online and transfer money to my skrill account can i withdraw with my card instantly and how long does it take for money to get from my bookies account to skrill account

shmeee

Sparticous wrote: »

hello iv just got myself one of these skrill cards if i win a bet online and transfer money to my skrill account can i withdraw with my card instantly and how long does it take for money to get from my bookies account to skrill account

From PP to Skrill, 1 hour.

Bet365 within about 4 hours.

Most you can withdraw at an ATM in 24hours is €250 in cash with the skrill mastercard.

Sparticous

Nice one that suits me perfect

paulb06

Bare in mind there is a charge for ATM withdrawals, I think it's about €2.50 per withdrawal.

Sparticous

paulb06 wrote: »

Bare in mind there is a charge for ATM withdrawals, I think it's about €2.50 per withdrawal.

I'd only use account to collect winnings do u use this is it as quick as everybody says

shmeee

Sparticous wrote: »

I'd only use account to collect winnings do u use this is it as quick as everybody says

It's €1.80 withdrawal fee.

It is as quick, I withdraw money from PP/Bet365 and can go down to an ATM in a matter of hours, handy if in need of a few quid to keep you going.

evosteo

can anyone confirm what shows up in the bank account when you deposit and withdraw to and from skrill????? dont like the b365,pp,betfair showing up on the account as i will hopefully be looking for a mortgage and i was advised to get rid of them as they go against your application, cheer steve

Dio On The Doubles

Same boat as you Evosteo. I just set up a skrill yesterday with the aim to be able to hook it up to Mara and other bookies that don't accept paypal. I also want to be able to withdraw from the ATM.

Main question I have is can banks see your withdrawal from the ATM in a mortgage review process?, in that they would ask what your skrill activities are?. I guess it's more for the financial part of boards but thought I'd mention here in case anyone has been through this before.

Cheers

shmeee

Dio On The Doubles wrote: »

Same boat as you Evosteo. I just set up a skrill yesterday with the aim to be able to hook it up to Mara and other bookies that don't accept paypal. I also want to be able to withdraw from the ATM.

Main question I have is can banks see your withdrawal from the ATM in a mortgage review process?, in that they would ask what your skrill activities are?. I guess it's more for the financial part of boards but thought I'd mention here in case anyone has been through this before.

Cheers

Firstly the banks aren't stupid, they know that most customers that use Skrill use it for gambling to be fair but at least it doesn't show up as such, but they must be able to trace it all the same. But its still better that just PP or Bet365 showing on statement.

It shows up as follows for me with BOI for a transaction

POS16MAR MB*MONEYBOOK

or

POS23MAR SKR*SKRILL.COM

Not sure why they are different, may be something to do with one was PP and other Bet365. But no mention of bookies in statement, but as I said, moneybrookers may use is for online gambling.

paulb06

shmeee wrote: »

Firstly the banks aren't stupid, they know that most customers that use Skrill use it for gambling to be fair but at least it doesn't show up as such, but they must be able to trace it all the same. But its still better that just PP or Bet365 showing on statement.

It shows up as follows for me with BOI for a transaction

POS16MAR MB*MONEYBOOK

or

POS23MAR SKR*SKRILL.COM

Not sure why they are different, may be something to do with one was PP and other Bet365. But no mention of bookies in statement, but as I said, moneybrookers may use is for online gambling.

Yes and plus does anyone know the reason when you go to upload money to Skrill it asks you for what reason? ie gambling or non gambling.

Dio On The Doubles

shmeee wrote: »

Firstly the banks aren't stupid, they know that most customers that use Skrill use it for gambling to be fair but at least it doesn't show up as such, but they must be able to trace it all the same. But its still better that just PP or Bet365 showing on statement.

It shows up as follows for me with BOI for a transaction

POS16MAR MB*MONEYBOOK

or

POS23MAR SKR*SKRILL.COM

Not sure why they are different, may be something to do with one was PP and other Bet365. But no mention of bookies in statement, but as I said, moneybrookers may use is for online gambling.

Cheers for that good to know as with Paypal they shove the name of the bookie (or whoever you sent it to) into the transaction on statement.

I intend on having 6 months of credit card statements and bank statements without any bookies transactions at all but just wonder if I access my funds with the skrill atm card will the banks see that transaction between skrill and me via the skrill atm card in the mortgage review process?. Sorry don't know if I was totally clear about that on original post.

I basically want to show no digital trace of gambling at all so don't want to get there and then find that atm transactions are being looked at from skrill in the Mortgage process. Hoping to leave a gambling pot out there on skrill and not have anyone involved in the mortgage process know about it only myself while i move it between bookies.

Cheers

shmeee

Dio On The Doubles wrote: »

Cheers for that good to know as with Paypal they shove the name of the bookie (or whoever you sent it to) into the transaction on statement.

I intend on having 6 months of credit card statements and bank statements without any bookies transactions at all but just wonder if I access my funds with the skrill atm card will the banks see that transaction between skrill and me via the skrill atm card in the mortgage review process?. Sorry don't know if I was totally clear about that on original post.

I basically want to show no digital trace of gambling at all so don't want to get there and then find that atm transactions are being looked at from skrill in the Mortgage process. Hoping to leave a gambling pot out there on skrill and not have anyone involved in the mortgage process know about it only myself while i move it between bookies.

Cheers

No, the transaction between your skrill acount and the skrill mastercard will not show on any bank statements, they have nothing to do with them, only that you may use one of their ATM's. So no fear of that.

How do you intend to deposit into your skrill account without any notice of it on accounts? Even if it just says what I quoted above earlier.

Dio On The Doubles

shmeee wrote: »

No, the transaction between your skrill acount and the skrill mastercard will not show on any bank statements, they have nothing to do with them, only that you may use one of their ATM's. So no fear of that.

How do you intend to deposit into your skrill account without any notice of it on accounts? Even if it just says what I quoted above earlier.

Cheers man good to know that for the ATM transactions. I'm going to deposit my gambling balance over but don't intend on applying for a mortgage inside 6 months so I'll have time to let it clear off the credit card statements. The perfect crime as it were :pac:

shmeee

Dio On The Doubles wrote: »

Cheers man good to know that for the ATM transactions. I'm going to deposit my gambling balance over but don't intend on applying for a mortgage inside 6 months so I'll have time to let it clear off the credit card statements. The perfect crime as it were :pac:

Sounds okay so, and then just withdraw as you need with the Skrill card, it's limited at €250 in 24 hours btw. Its a great option all the same. I try and deposit a good lump at once and hopefully last's me a decent spell of time and then take out with the skrill card as good as instantly.

Dio On The Doubles

shmeee wrote: »

Sounds okay so, and then just withdraw as you need with the Skrill card, it's limited at €250 in 24 hours btw. Its a great option all the same. I try and deposit a good lump at once and hopefully last's me a decent spell of time and then take out with the skrill card as good as instantly.

Sounds the proper job alright. Be great to have access like this to withdraw straight to the pocket every so often if on a winning streak.

evosteo

liking the sound of that, how do you get the card?????

Dio On The Doubles

paulb06 wrote: »

Yes and plus does anyone know the reason when you go to upload money to Skrill it asks you for what reason? ie gambling or non gambling.

Very interested to know this too. Got asked today when verifying my credit card and found it very strange.

Dio On The Doubles

evosteo wrote: »

liking the sound of that, how do you get the card?????

Need to find this out too. I haven't read through the site fully yet.

shmeee

Dio On The Doubles wrote: »

Need to find this out too. I haven't read through the site fully yet.

Just set up a skrill moneybrookers account and then apply for one, comes in the post a few days later and it's linked to your skrill account. Easy job, quick and simple.

http://g.skrill.com/mastercard/ie/

paulb06

I have a card myself and it's great as long as you don't use ATM too often. You can w/d back into your bank a/c too. Just be aware that when you make a transaction through your bank a/c it will initially show on your statement and then disappear only to appear back a few days later :mad:

Extremely frustrating and they do not answer any queries with regards to it. Ive set up numerous calls which to date have never been answered!

shmeee

paulb06 wrote: »

I have a card myself and it's great as long as you don't use ATM too often. You can w/d back into your bank a/c too. Just be aware that when you make a transaction through your bank a/c it will initially show on your statement and then disappear only to appear back a few days later :mad:

Extremely frustrating and they do not answer any queries with regards to it. Ive set up numerous calls which to date have never been answered!

What kind of transaction do you mean?

paulb06

shmeee wrote: »

What kind of transaction do you mean?

If I uploaded via my Debit Card. It will show on my statement, then disappear and reappear a few working days later. I've been reading about it and it's like they 'pre authorise' it and then remove it. Then apply for all payments on a certain day.

Dio On The Doubles

shmeee wrote: »

Just set up a skrill moneybrookers account and then apply for one, comes in the post a few days later and it's linked to your skrill account. Easy job, quick and simple.

http://g.skrill.com/mastercard/ie/

Cheers Shmeee. that'll show ya how little I've been on there gonna get that sent out to me now thanks.

Sparticous

If I deposit to paddy power threw paypal can I withdraw winnings still through my skrill card

paulb06

As far as I know you can't. Must withdraw through the same deposit method.

shmeee

paulb06 wrote: »

As far as I know you can't. Must withdraw through the same deposit method.

Bet365 allow like once a month or something like that, can't remember exact details. I deposited through a different method and was able to process it back to the my bank account, just live chat them and asked and went through a week later, bounced back the first time as wasn't allowed.

Sparticous

How do u activate ur skrill card is it by using it at ATM

shmeee

Sparticous wrote: »

How do u activate ur skrill card is it by using it at ATM

Yes, and change pin if want to then.

Samba

paulb06 wrote: »

Yes and plus does anyone know the reason when you go to upload money to Skrill it asks you for what reason? ie gambling or non gambling.

If you select non-gambling then you won't be able to transfer/deposit those funds to any gambling merchant, it's just to restrict the funds on your account for non-gambling activities.

Dio On The Doubles wrote: »

I basically want to show no digital trace of gambling at all so don't want to get there and then find that atm transactions are being looked at from skrill in the Mortgage process. Hoping to leave a gambling pot out there on skrill and not have anyone involved in the mortgage process know about it only myself while i move it between bookies.

Cheers

As another poster alluded, the banks are not stupid, if you really want no trace you can now upload to skrill using a paysafe card, that way you deposit and withdraw to sites with skrill funds all the bank will see is funds hitting your account.

I'd stick to using bankwire to avoid their upload fees, if using your card deposit directly to the bookie to avoid the upload fees. It shows up on your statement the same. You'd still probably have to explain those transactions to any bank manager if applying for a mortgage.

Direct card deposits also show up as below.

POS SKR*SKRILL.C

shmeee wrote: »

Sounds okay so, and then just withdraw as you need with the Skrill card, it's limited at €250 in 24 hours btw. Its a great option all the same. I try and deposit a good lump at once and hopefully last's me a decent spell of time and then take out with the skrill card as good as instantly.

It's 1.80 a pop unless you've got vip status in which case it's free. You can also withdraw 250-2.5k depending on your vip level (your average punter wouldn't come close to the volume required to reach that level though).

frankmul

Just checking to see if I have this correct. It's free to lodge money to skrill, free to deposit to bookie, free to withdrawl from bookie to skrill. Skrill just charge you to withdraw your money from them unless your a VIP?

shmeee

frankmul wrote: »

Just checking to see if I have this correct. It's free to lodge money to skrill, free to deposit to bookie, free to withdrawl from bookie to skrill. Skrill just charge you to withdraw your money from them unless your a VIP?

There is a fee if you upload directly to your skrill account through the skrill website. There is no fee if you upload via skrill from a bookies site, ie. Powers or Bet365 and so on. There is no charge to withdraw to your skrill account from the bookies. There is a fee to withdraw money back to your bank account or for using the skrill mastercard unless your a VIP.

Fees listed here : https://www.skrill.com/en/personal/fees/

The only fee I pay is to withdraw at atm via skrill mastercard, €1.80 and I'd send over the correct amount from bookies acccount to my skrill acccount, for example €101.80 so I can take out a €100. Or pay a few to send to my bank account, €2.95 a transaction.

yabadabado

Just set up a skrill a/c and it says on the site to upload money from visa is 1.9%.Am I right in thinking it is then free to send the money from Skrill to PP ,Bet 365 etc ?

seklly

yabadabado wrote: »

Just set up a skrill a/c and it says on the site to upload money from visa is 1.9%.Am I right in thinking it is then free to send the money from Skrill to PP ,Bet 365 etc ?

Yep, free to deposit and withdraw to/from PP/Bet365, but withdrawing from Skrill to bank will also get charged.

shmeee

yabadabado wrote: »

Just set up a skrill a/c and it says on the site to upload money from visa is 1.9%.Am I right in thinking it is then free to send the money from Skrill to PP ,Bet 365 etc ?

Don't upload on the skrill site. Upload from the online bookies site, ie. bet365, go to deposit method and select skrill there then, and it will go from your bank to your skrill account then onto your bet365 and there won't be that charge to upload fees.

yabadabado

shmeee wrote: »

Don't upload on the skrill site. Upload from the online bookies site, ie. bet365, go to deposit method and select skrill there then, and it will go from your bank to your skrill account then onto your bet365 and there won't be that charge to upload fees.

Do I not need to have cash on the Skrill a/c to begin with ?

paulb06

yabadabado wrote: »

Do I not need to have cash on the Skrill a/c to begin with ?

No once you have money in your bank account you will be ok. Bank>Skrill>Bookie in the one transaction.

yabadabado

Cheers ,so just link my bank account to my Skrill account and I avoid all fees.

shmeee

yabadabado wrote: »

Cheers ,so just link my bank account to my Skrill account and I avoid all fees.

You avoid all deposit fees into bookies, but still there is a charge to withdraw back to bank account from skrill account.

yabadabado

shmeee wrote: »

You avoid all deposit fees into bookies, but still there is a charge to withdraw back to bank account from skrill account.

Perfect thanks guys.
I will be just glad if I have a few quid to withdraw back to my bank a/c

RIALTO1

Hi all, similar problems here re banks and mortgages.

I had considered the o2moneycard but apparently you can't withdraw to this with some bookies. I was thinking that bank transfers to an o2 money card look clean from a banks perspective vs transfers to skrill. Another problem I saw was that to top up skrill via paysafecard incurs 5.5% charge!!

So my plan now is bank to o2moneycard. Then o2moneycard to skrill. Can then withdraw via skrill at ATM, or alternatively use either card to buy stuff.

Does anyone with a better understand of all this see any issues with this?

Many thanks

Shanotheslayer

Lads does anybody use Neteller?

Just a few questions on it:

Anyone know the % charges etc?
What's the best way to get your money out?
Does anybody use their card?
Is it reliable/ does it show up in bank accounts in a negative way?

Bateman

RIALTO1 wrote: »

Hi all, similar problems here re banks and mortgages.

I had considered the o2moneycard but apparently you can't withdraw to this with some bookies. I was thinking that bank transfers to an o2 money card look clean from a banks perspective vs transfers to skrill. Another problem I saw was that to top up skrill via paysafecard incurs 5.5% charge!!

So my plan now is bank to o2moneycard. Then o2moneycard to skrill. Can then withdraw via skrill at ATM, or alternatively use either card to buy stuff.

Does anyone with a better understand of all this see any issues with this?

Many thanks

Betfair allows withdrawals and deposits from o2 money card and charges for neither, depends on what you're betting I guess but betfair covers the basics and being able to use o2 card on it is a big plus

shmeee

Bateman wrote: »

Betfair allows withdrawals and deposits from o2 money card and charges for neither, depends on what you're betting I guess but betfair covers the basics and being able to use o2 card on it is a big plus

Is there a charge for uploading funds to skrill via o2money?

I don't mind the charge with paysafe as of now as keeps accounts clean, but if better alternative, I'd take it.

magherakid

Website has been down last few days for me, anyone else having problems?