A sensation of pressure from Next-Gen?

Gamer Bhoy 89

I'll explain. Ever since around the beginning of Autumn, I'll say around the time GTA V came out (September-ish), adverts and teasers have begun hitting our TVs, advertising new games coming out for the PS4 and Xbox One.

An advert for Call of Duty Ghosts came on the TV the other night and I was enjoying watching it until I saw the ending where it said "Coming soon to Xbox One" or something. It really made me go "uugh......"

I then saw a trailer for Forza 5 come on in between watching WWE on Monday night. I actually thought that it was coming out on the Xbox 360 as well as Xbox One until I saw the end of it saying "Exclusively on Xbox One" only to feel more, how can I explain it other than, minorly depressed.

All of these ads, commercials, teasers, and the general mention of both next-gen consoles have begun to flood me with immense pressure. By that, I mean that I feel rather too pushed into getting one of these consoles when I have no idea when or how I'm going to get one anytime soon.

When they finally hit the stores, it's all that will plague the gaming community. Does anyone else feel the same way, feeling pressured into ordering one of these consoles?

krudler

Not in the slightest, there's plenty of life left in the current gen and it'll be a while before the power of the new gen is really seen, and obviously the companies want to advertise their new babies.

Retr0gamer

After the reviews the PS4 launch titles are getting in today's reviews, nope no pressure. Looks like yet another launch full of Perfect Dark Zeros and Kameos. Who remembers them?

ShadowHearth

Well, after today, having Ps4 controller in my hands and playing with it, I just cant wait to get my ps4. Its not even the games themselves that really makes me want it as a sense of actual new hardware and new nerd toy. Its a PLAYSTATION! :pac:
I did changed my Knack preorder to NFS Rivals after seeing few Reviews and playing Knack itself today. Its not bad, but I will pick it up later when it is dirt cheap. It will go go cheap soon...

Do I feel pressure? Nope. Am I hyped to get a nice new hardware? Feck YEAH! I am saying this as a hardcore PC gamer too.

richymcdermott

Next gen wont start till Metal gear Ground zero is out for me.

Agricola

The next gen console stopped being appealing to me since I started PC gaming. I already have a machine that can blow a playstation 4 out of the water so there really isnt much to get excited about graphics wise. I do miss the anticipation I had getting the first PS or the PS2. They were real leaps in technology.
..... Plus launch games are rarely any good. I'll get one some time but it'll be a long time

super_furry

Just decided there to cancel my PS4 pre-order. The launch titles are typically average and until Destiny drops, I don't think there's a true next-gen game available. I've more than enough to be getting on with the 360 and PS3. I'll probably pick up a PS4 next summer - hopefully with a new larger hard-drive sku.

ZiabR

Next Gen for me starts in March with Titan Fall. 360 has plenty of good games still to play!

Overheal

Titan Fall looks fun. The kinda fun that makes me want to own a console again, but I'm going back off to University next year so I'll just mooch on someone else's mooching of mother's purse-strings

grizzly

Get a PC, problem solved :P

Retr0gamer

Hard to get excited when Dark Souls 2 is out in March.

Gamer Bhoy 89

I can't afford to upgrade my PC. I have been playing consoles my whole life. That would add to it actually.

sarumite

Nope, not in the slightest. When I look at the games I have available to play in my backlog its the smaller games like FTL, Waking dead, Thomas was alone etc that grabs my attention the most while big blockbuster like Far cry 3, dead space 3, mass effect 3 (a lot of 3's it would appear) remain barely played. I don't need next gen for that. In a while I will, but not now.

biggebruv

nah i can wait 2013 has been a great year of games I dont think 2014 will top it

this is the worst part about new consoles the transition period it takes awhile for the big new gen games to pop up we will probley hear all about these games in 2014 then the release them in 2015

Skerries

do the console makers supplement the developers of the first game exclusives for next gen as they will only sell a limited amount due to a small user base?

Kiith

I look forward to seeing what they can do a few months after launch, but i won't be buying one till mid 2014 at the earliest. Playing AC4 on the PS3 at the moment, and as long as there's only small difference between the multiplatform releases, i'll stick with the current gen and a new pc.

Danonino.

This whole get a PC nd you won't need a console is getting old fast.
Seriously, people buy consoles for the exclusive games. Just using the PS3 as an example: Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Journey, Little Big Planet, Demons Souls. Thats 5 games of the top of my head.

Saying all you need is a PC is nonsense, really. What you really need is every console. Say that instead.

Will I Amnt

Danonino. wrote: »

This whole get a PC nd you won't need a console is getting old fast.
Seriously, people buy consoles for the exclusive games. Just using the PS3 as an example: Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Journey, Little Big Planet, Demons Souls. Thats 5 games of the top of my head.

Saying all you need is a PC is nonsense, really. What you really need is every console. Say that instead.

It's f**king pointless. It's a thread about the next gen consoles. If you don't have anything to say about it...

You wouldn't go into a rugby thread to say you don't like rugby and that you just like a bit of soccer or GAA. It's ridiculous.

ShadowHearth

Danonino. wrote: »

This whole get a PC nd you won't need a console is getting old fast.
Seriously, people buy consoles for the exclusive games. Just using the PS3 as an example: Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Journey, Little Big Planet, Demons Souls. Thats 5 games of the top of my head.

Saying all you need is a PC is nonsense, really. What you really need is every console. Say that instead.

Just to put a little note on that: Pc has exclusive and more of then then both old gens put together. So exclusives are not just Console "thing". Multiplatform releases are always more superior on Pc too. You cant really ignore such a strong platform and put your head in a sand.
I do agree that current topic is about next gen consoles here, so PC might stay away from this thread.

Back on topic: a lot of people say that there are no games worth getting, but mutliplatform games are an improvement. A console gamer who wants to play bf4 or Cod ( not that massive improvement maybe in cod case :pac: ) will benefit a lot from new gen. As much as you can hate and dont like modern shooters - they are popular and sale shiet loads.
Sony exclusive might not be great or must haves, but there is enough of games to keep people going. I am pretty sure Xbox exclusives will be quite better. I do have ps4 Preordered and payed off, but I do like Xbox one exclusive a lot more.

Kiith

No one is saying not to buy a next gen console because of the pc, they are just saying they don't feel the pressure of buying one now because they have a good gaming pc (or because of current gen consoles). Nothing wrong with that, and it's perfectly relevant for this thread.

Hercule

nothing worth getting at launch - cancelled pre-order after drive-club and watchdogs delay

GTR63

Retr0gamer wrote: »

After the reviews the PS4 launch titles are getting in today's reviews, nope no pressure. Looks like yet another launch full of Perfect Dark Zeros and Kameos. Who remembers them?

Can`t believe Killzone got average reviews :rolleyes:

Sticking with my 3DS & Tearaway for the Vita this Christmas and New Year may pick up Rayman Legends aswell.

Calhoun

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well, after today, having Ps4 controller in my hands and playing with it, I just cant wait to get my ps4. Its not even the games themselves that really makes me want it as a sense of actual new hardware and new nerd toy. Its a PLAYSTATION! :pac:
I did changed my Knack preorder to NFS Rivals after seeing few Reviews and playing Knack itself today. Its not bad, but I will pick it up later when it is dirt cheap. It will go go cheap soon...

Do I feel pressure? Nope. Am I hyped to get a nice new hardware? Feck YEAH! I am saying this as a hardcore PC gamer too.

I felt like this when I got my vita, excitement wore off after sony didn't release any new games for it.

krudler

biggebruv wrote: »

nah i can wait 2013 has been a great year of games I dont think 2014 will top it

this is the worst part about new consoles the transition period it takes awhile for the big new gen games to pop up we will probley hear all about these games in 2014 then the release them in 2015

Happens with every launch in fairness, the ps2 and ps3 launches were pretty poor too, it's at least 6-12 months until the first really worthwhile game start coming out and longer again before the developers really start pushing the hardware. Some of the best games of each console come out in it's final years, this current gen won't be any different.

LuckyFinigan

I won't get one until at least March next year. I have a huge backlog of games due to ps+ so I'm not short of stuff to play. I'll wait for Metal Gear and Infamous and see what else is on the horizon before I take the plunge.

Danonino.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Just to put a little note on that: Pc has exclusive and more of then then both old gens put together. So exclusives are not just Console "thing". Multiplatform releases are always more superior on Pc too. You cant really ignore such a strong platform and put your head in a sand.
I do agree that current topic is about next gen consoles here, so PC might stay away from this thread.
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But thats my point. If the PC has exclusive titles buy a PC. You're agreeing with me but making it out like I said exclusives were a console only perk.
I was replying to this nonsense along with a few more that pop up all the fecking time:

grizzly wrote: »

Get a PC, problem solved :P

Not to just pull Grizzly out or anything, it was obviously said as a joke. I just find it infuriating when people try compare every other gaming dvice with thier super PC. There is a reason the WiiU exists just like there is a reason people dust off their Super Nintendo and gather round for some micro machines. It's the same reason people spend time, money and effort building a dedicated gaming pc. To play games. The current gen of consoles were worth the price of admission. I have no doubt the next gen will too. But to say you have no interest in consoles because you have an awesome PC is like saying you don't find cheesecake appealing because you stocked up on steaks for the next 2 years and they are delicious. I like cheesecake after my steak damn it. Cheesecake is fecking awesome.

nesf

Most of the posters saying "Get a PC!" are just making a joke and a very long running one on this forum (console gamers face this problem every four or five years, hardcore PC gamers face (cheaper) problems much more frequently as a different bit of the PC could use an upgrade, no one escapes the upgrade treadmill). Some of the others are saying "I'm happy I moved to PC" but they're just relating to the thread topic: The pressure to get the Next Gen because of advertising.

There isn't any real PC Gamer Master Race Post in this thread. Pity really, the peons seem to be getting uppity.

Danonino.

I hope you don't mean me when you say uppity, I was just making sure I wasn't being misunderstood is all. Plus its been a while since I had cheesecake, thinking of that set me off. You don't have any cheesecake do you? If you do you should give me some.





I deserve it.

No pressure here. Got too many games still to play and there'll be plenty more for the next 18 months or so. That's generally when price drops or decent bundles come along so I'll be waiting.

On a slightly separate note, another reason I don't mind waiting is that getting new electronics has almost become run-of-the-mill for me. I still remember getting my 360 (I think I was 20 or 21 at the time) and was so, so excited on the way up, set it up in the sitting room so I could show my parents what it could do (hadn't had a console in their house since PS1) and just buzzing for days. It wasn't about the new games, I'd played the games before for ages elsewhere, it was just brilliant. Then over the summer I got a 3DS and I'm enjoying it but there was very little buzz buying it at the time.

swine

I'm sure everyone is waiting anxiously for a port of Euro Truck Simulator 2 to the Xbox One and the PS4, no really. <smiley face>

In saying that, I see no reason to get in on the ground floor on either of the new machines. The launch line-ups are pretty weak looking and the list of features they're backtracking on (or delaying) is more than off-putting right now. Considering the troubled launches of the PS3 and the 360 I would currently avoid both new machines. After watching a few videos of a few cross platform titles either, there is a difference there, but not enough to warrant a new purchase.

All imo.

K.O.Kiki

I'll consider a PS4 once I've gone through my PS3 game collection from PS+.

So, sometime next year then.

P.S. Everyone should play Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen.

P.P.S. Except PC gamers cos they don't have it :pac:

jaykhunter

gamercfc wrote: »

When they finally hit the stores, it's all that will plague the gaming community. Does anyone else feel the same way, feeling pressured into ordering one of these consoles?

That's interesting. It's what advertising is all about, trying to make you feel inadequate without the product; buy our stuff and happiness will ensue! I do agree, the PS/360 will feel mighty old very soon. Especially when we'll be blasted with it over the next few weeks.

I think I'll be fine as I'm not rabidly interested in any of the launch titles. Watchdogs being delayed was a major blow for me. Not that we'll be able to do anything about it, I'm sure they're sold out everywhere That and I bought a gaming rig at the top of last year so if possible I just buy new games for that.

Scavenger XIII

Honestly haven't the slightest interest in the new consoles, won't be going near them until there's a big next-gen-only fighter I can't do without (KI looks a bit of fun but it isn't selling me a new console).

Have enough old games I haven't got playing to skip the next 3 generations TBH (if we even get that many before they become something else entirely).

calex71

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Hard to get excited when Dark Souls 2 is out in March.

That will be one to dust off a 360 for certainly, though I do hope it gets a next gen release down the road too ..... not that I'll need an excuse to play it twice


February / March look like a release schedule we would usually see pre-christmas with the amount of next gen stuff out or put back until then. Tonnes of stuff that I'm currenly interested in getting released then, time being a bigger factor than money (not that I've loads of money) for those release dates. I think it was 6 games on my last count that I was interested in a 4 week release window.

nesf

Danonino. wrote: »

I hope you don't mean me when you say uppity, I was just making sure I wasn't being misunderstood is all. Plus its been a while since I had cheesecake, thinking of that set me off. You don't have any cheesecake do you? If you do you should give me some.





I deserve it.

Peons don't get cheesecake! Don't be silly.

I can't stand when people come along in a thread about consoles and say, "oh PCs are better". This is the only forum where something similar is actually allowed without punishment. As someone stated, you wouldn't go into other forums and do something similar, would you?

As for the next gen consoles - nope, no pressure. I never buy anything launch day, especially new platforms, as the range of games that usually are on offer are terrible. I'll probably purchase one in another year or so, when all the problems and kinks have been ironed out and there is a better back-catalogue of games. Also I'm not worried about the current gen- the Playstation 2 was releasing games up until recently, a few years into the current gen of consoles, so I can't imagine anything different happening with the Xbox 360.

Also it does seem that the next gen consoles are getting hit hard with people cancelling their preorders.

Retr0gamer

Deleted User wrote: »

I can't stand when people come along in a thread about consoles and say, "oh PCs are better". This is the only forum where something similar is actually allowed without punishment. As someone stated, you wouldn't go into other forums and do something similar, would you?

I'm not punishing it because people getting worked up about it is much worse than people stating they prefer PC gaming. The people getting worked up about it need to grow some thicker skin because they aren't being insulted personally. PC gaming is an option as is console gaming and I would be abusing my powers punishing people for stating their preference for PC gaming. There's arguments for both sides.

I'd be more inclined to punish the people over reacting to these comments and taking it personally. It's even worse when it's a very obvious troll for humours sake.

sarumite

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm not punishing it because people getting worked up about it is much worse than people stating they prefer PC gaming. The people getting worked up about it need to grow some thicker skin because they aren't being insulted personally. PC gaming is an option as is console gaming and I would be abusing my powers punishing people for stating their preference for PC gaming. There's arguments for both sides.

While I agree with you, the whole 'superior PC race' does get very tiresome very quickly. As someone who plays games on both PC and consoles, I never really understand the urge of some on here to jump into console centric threads to talk about how PC's are better. I actually find it kind of sad really, its like they are constantly looking for validation or something.

mrm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm not punishing it because people getting worked up about it is much worse than people stating they prefer PC gaming. The people getting worked up about it need to grow some thicker skin because they aren't being insulted personally. PC gaming is an option as is console gaming and I would be abusing my powers punishing people for stating their preference for PC gaming. There's arguments for both sides.

I'd be more inclined to punish the people over reacting to these comments and taking it personally. It's even worse when it's a very obvious troll for humours sake.

Strange that, because when the console counterparts used to do it to each other the mods used to come down very heavy on the, as it was called, 'fanboy flame wars'. I believe it was quite successful in reducing the 'problem'.

If you would like to punish people for this type of approach within threads go into this weeks posts in the Diablo 3 thread and see the 'taking it personally' over reaction when Paths of Exile was mentioned (all self proclaimed PC master racers BTW). Interesting one of the main 'over reactors' who got their knickers in a twist is a thanker of your post. Not so happy when the tables are turned! The games thread contains quite a good community, the one blight being this 'Get/ Have a PC' (joke?;)) response got weary a looooooooooooong time ago.

Anyway before I get my ban, no pressure felt atall re the next gen consoles. I feel the current gen consoles are only starting to kick off in the last 18 months, and there's much more in them (IMHO) This coupled with the sales price of games only a few months after release (coupled with Humble Bundle/gog/ steam sales) means it is certainly not a necessity to get a new console to continue gaming.

Anyway, nobody should move on until they have at least played Demons Souls, Vanquish, Journey and Dragons Dogma (and probably Thomas was Alone). You really haven't got the best out of this gen until you have played those.:) 'Superior' Games!

Retr0gamer

mrm wrote: »

Strange that, because when the console counterparts used to do it to each other the mods used to come down very heavy on the, as it was called, 'fanboy flame wars'. I believe it was quite successful in reducing the 'problem'.

There's absolutely no comparison to the PC gaming thing and the moronic console flame wars (can't wait for this gens inevitable one :rolleyes:).

From moderating the forum I usually find nothing wrong with PC gaming being mentioned. Usually it's a very valid post making valid points until someone comes in spouting how the PC gaming master race should shut up and get out of the thread that the trouble starts and it's those people who are in the wrong since they kick it off by expressing their offense at nebulous opinions. If someone is actually trying to start trouble they will be dealt with as usual but I find the vast majority of the time it's some one reacting to a PC post that is the sole cause of all the trouble.

Reading through this thread it's a perfect example of that happening.

Anyway end it at that it's off topic.

2Mad2BeMad

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's absolutely no comparison to the PC gaming thing and the moronic console flame wars (can't wait for this gens inevitable one :rolleyes:).

From moderating the forum I usually find nothing wrong with PC gaming being mentioned. Usually it's a very valid post making valid points until someone comes in spouting how the PC gaming master race should shut up and get out of the thread that the trouble starts and it's those people who are in the wrong since they kick it off by expressing their offense at nebulous opinions. If someone is actually trying to start trouble they will be dealt with as usual but I find the vast majority of the time it's some one reacting to a PC post that is the sole cause of all the trouble.

Reading through this thread it's a perfect example of that happening.

Anyway end it at that it's off topic.

But this thread is about next gen consoles, why do people feel the need to post and say "I prefer pc" when all thats doing is talking off topic and stating a preference which no one really cares about becauses its a console discussion, more like spam to me:pac:

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pc gamer here:pac:

mrm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's absolutely no comparison to the PC gaming thing and the moronic console flame wars (can't wait for this gens inevitable one :rolleyes:).

According to some reports flying around the net the new console flame war could revolve around whose console has been bricked the most by the day one patch. Another reason not to succumb to pressure and become an early adopter!

Retr0gamer

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

But this thread is about next gen consoles, why do people feel the need to post and say "I prefer pc" when all thats doing is talking off topic and stating a preference which no one really cares about becauses its a console discussion, more like spam to me:pac:

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pc gamer here:pac:

It's very simple. A response of 'no I've a good PC' in a thread pretty much asking whether you are excited about the next gen consoles is perfectly valid response. We are discussing games here that come in all shapes and flavours and on different systems not just console games. Nobody is flat out saying I prefer PC, they are saying they don't see the point in owning a new system when they have a PC system that offers more or better.

If you don't think that is a valid response to the question posed then I'm sorry but that's the reality and I'm not going to ban PC gamers from commenting on games threads (when in fact a lot of PC gamers game on consoles as well but people don't think before the accusations start flying). It's a perfectly fine response and totally on topic and I don't see how you can argue it isn't.

The only problem here is people reacting to posts first before actually understanding what is being said.

Danonino.

This whole get a PC nd you won't need a console is getting old fast.
Seriously, people buy consoles for the exclusive games. Just using the PS3 as an example: Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Journey, Little Big Planet, Demons Souls. Thats 5 games of the top of my head.

Saying all you need is a PC is nonsense, really. What you really need is every console. Say that instead.

That is a perfectly fine response to what the two other posts said about not feeling any pressure to buy next gen and instead having PCs to game on. They were said in a joking manner, some of the replies afterwards were also said in a joking manner, but to say the thread derailed because of replies to 'Get a PC' rather than the actual posting 'Get a PC' would be a strange thing to say indeed. It works both ways. I personally posted to say "hey hang on a second, there is plenty of reasons to own a console" and then had to post again to stop being misunderstood. If someone can post a troll then it should be perfectly understandable if someone posts back.

Then the PC master race discussion threw everything everywhich way. Can't someone please think of the children.

Retr0gamer

It wasn't really a perfectly fine response, it was totally off topic and responding to an obvious troll. No need for it and it kicked everything off. You were responding to something you perceived was said than was actually said. Nobody actually said there's no point in getting a console if you have a PC (if they did point it out to me) but for some reason you went ahead and addressed that point even though it wasn't made at all thus kicking things off. This unfortunately happens an awful lot. Again people need to think before they post.

astonaidan

Retr0gamer wrote: »

After the reviews the PS4 launch titles are getting in today's reviews, nope no pressure. Looks like yet another launch full of Perfect Dark Zeros and Kameos. Who remembers them?

I liked Kameo

ShadowHearth

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

But this thread is about next gen consoles, why do people feel the need to post and say "I prefer pc" when all thats doing is talking off topic and stating a preference which no one really cares about becauses its a console discussion, more like spam to me:pac:

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pc gamer here:pac:

Some people might still live under a rock and dont like it, but PC topic will surface more and more in the upcoming next gen of gaming. PC was always strong platform, but now it is actually going in to its golden age and becoming a lot more realistic platform then it ever was.

Saying that "I wont bother with next gen, because I have PC" is a super valid point in thread like this ( when you come to think about it ). It looks like that "console gamer ONLY" crowd got their knickers in a twist over this. And trust me, there is a huge difference between: "console only gamer", "pc gamer only" and "gamer who is on both platforms". In most cases "pc gamer only" had a taste of all platforms and decided on his PC platform, wheres "Console gamer only" in 99% cases knows only about console and decided to completely ignore pc by sticking his head in sand and getting offended every time when someone tries to explain the benefits of PC.

So why this "I will stick to PC" is very valid here? Well, because if you got at least few years solid gaming PC build, then there is no point getting Console for multiplatform games, as PC will still run it in more superior way. We mentioned exclusives. Yes, Valid point about consoles, but in this case exclusive are not great and not worth investment. Knack is bad, Killzone still average in most peoples eyes. Forza 5 is not bad, but it is a very cut down version compared to epic Forza4. Deadrising 3 does look cool, but no way it is worth 500eu investment.

So yeah, I can clearly see why people who got PCs are not pressured at all at this stage. Who can blame them? yeah, they can play BF4 on 1080p with all the extras already. Why would they go 900p or even 720p for an extra 400/500eu? I got Bf4 + Premium for 63eu on PC, for PS4 it would cost me 65eu for BF4 alone.
Saying all this: I got my ps4 payed off and I am counting days until 29th. I am 90% of PC gamer, but I always have a special place in my heart for Playstation since original one. I love new hardware and I will have my ps4 all ready for when exclusive will come in, lets be honest, there wount be price cut on PS4 any time soon. With time I will get Xbox one too for all the other exclusives.

Retr0gamer

Try and keep this on topic from now on and less of the backseat modding.

astonaidan

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm not punishing it because people getting worked up about it is much worse than people stating they prefer PC gaming. The people getting worked up about it need to grow some thicker skin because they aren't being insulted personally. PC gaming is an option as is console gaming and I would be abusing my powers punishing people for stating their preference for PC gaming. There's arguments for both sides.

I'd be more inclined to punish the people over reacting to these comments and taking it personally. It's even worse when it's a very obvious troll for humours sake.

Tbh comments like"Get a pc" are comments looking for a reaction, comments like "well I rather playing on the pc because............" are not looking for a reaction they are making a statement, too much off the first comment happens and is overlooked too often

Kiith

This thread is about feeling the pressure of getting a next gen console. If it's ok to say you don't feel pressure because there's a ton of games left to play on the current gen consoles, why can't we say we don't feel pressure because there's a ton of games to play on the pc. No one said don't get one because the PC is better, just that there's no rush.

Anyway, back on topic; seeing the PS4 reviews definitely makes me glad i didn't bother with it at launch. Very mediocre so far. Watch Dogs getting pushed back was a big blow to both Sony and Microsoft (and Ubisoft) at launch.

mrm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

In most cases "pc gamer only" had a taste of all platforms and decided on his PC platform, wheres "Console gamer only" in 99% cases knows only about console and decided to completely ignore pc by sticking his head in sand and getting offended every time when someone tries to explain the benefits of PC.

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