"Man Up" campaign by SafeIreland

hots

com1 wrote: »

Interesting article with sources...

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2020/0123/1110351-7-myths-about-domestic-violence/

That is actually very well sourced, really unusual to see RTE or similar going to that extent, would love to see that approach taken more.

hots

iptba wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-51362733

I'm uncomfortable with the idea that people can stab someone to death when such force didn't seem required at that moment in time and receive no penalty.

I'd say the fact that he had beaten them that day and then threatened to kill them makes it enough for self-defense, not the most obvious case though as he was walking away at that moment in time. Either way he's very little loss anyway.

py2006

Die Hard 2019

hots wrote: »

I'd say the fact that he had beaten them that day and then threatened to kill them makes it enough for self-defense, not the most obvious case though as he was walking away at that moment in time. Either way he's very little loss anyway.

Self defence is about the moment, if a person is leaving they are not a threat but as was said **** him he deserved it.

silverharp

py2006 wrote: »

if someone had to deal with that level of crazy they would be advised to video everything and have a proper exit plan involving friends etc for corroboration. how many suicides will something like that have led to over the years?

iptba

https://twitter.com/womens_aid/status/1232651736629874688?s=11

This showed up on my Twitter feed today. The website address is not gender neutral: only male abusers, it seems (so even excludes female victims in lesbian relationships). I suppose somewhat not surprising as it is Women's Aid, but this approach can reinforce stereotypes.

iptba

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0306/1120758-nevada-murder-suicide-irishwoman/

US police investigating a murder-suicide in Reno, Nevada have said they believe 53-year-old Irish woman Joan Huber had shot her husband and their two teenage children, before taking her own life.

Sad case but it does show that campaigns which only highlight femicide don't highlight all such crimes.

iptba

iptba wrote: »

On the point of more males killing their partners or ex-partners, I just came across the following comment on the journal.ie

US Criminologists have been saying for decades not enough research is being done on women who kill their partners, they make the point that women hire people to do their bidding or coerce new partners to kill in sim,ilar numbers.

I must keep an eye out for data on that.

Bitter mother, 39, is guilty of asking three different men to murder her ex-husband after he won custody of their teenage daughter

• Victoria Breeden tried to have Rob Parkes murdered three times in five years
• The 39-year-old mother from Littleport, Cambridgeshire offered to pay £5,00
• Breeden found guilty of three counts of soliciting to murder her ex husband

A bitter mum has been found guilty of trying to have her ex husband killed so she could win back custody of their daughter.

'The defendant was in a relationship with some of the men who she sought to help her with this deadly plan, others were just friends.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8100953/Cambridgeshire-woman-guilty-asking-three-different-men-murder-ex-husband.html

iptba

I was just looking at events cancelled due to the coronavirus. This one-sided event is one of them.

https://galway2020.ie/en/event/home-truths-exhibition/

Galway 2020 European Capital of Culture, Galway Domestic Violence Response and Engage Art Studios are delighted to present Home Truths.

Home Truths, as part of Galway 2020’s Small Towns Big Ideas programme, looks at women’s experience of and engagement with the Irish courts and legal system in dealing with domestic violence and abuse.

Artists Blaise Drummond, Evelyn Glynn, Alison Lowry, Áine Philips and Ruby Wallis have been commissioned to respond to women’s testimonies of their court experiences.

iptba

(Not important)
This very short video showed up in my Facebook feed today:
https://www.facebook.com/themetropolita4/videos/504188156964529

I suppose some people consider the behaviour of the woman okay because she had a reason to be annoyed, but I think if the man behaved in the same way, it would be considered much less acceptable.

greenspurs

Jeez man chill.

greenspurs

greenspurs wrote: »

Jeez man chill.

What has he said or done with would suggest he's not chill?

It seems like any resistance or highlighting of these issues means the guy has emotional management issues.

I, for one, admire his consistency, and I've never seen any female bashing from him. Just highlighting issues which should be considered.

iptba

Women's Aid says it cannot be underestimated how difficult this time is going to be for women who are living with domestic violence in their homes.

Chief Executive Sarah Benson told RTÉ's Drivetime that an increase is expected in the number of incidents of domestic abuse as a result of the coronavirus crisis.

She said women self-isolating and working from home are at a greater risk from an abusive partner by being more exposed to their controlling behaviour, verbal abuse and violence.

Ms Benson said: "Many of the opportunities that women use to try and access safe spaces or to gain some distance have effectively been reduced."

True for men also

iptba

Rising numbers of men are reporting domestic abuse to police in Suffolk.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/male-domestic-abuse-services-suffolk-refuge-centre-charity-concerns-1-6583649?

mr_fegelien

Does anyone have statistics or anecdotal stories of how common domestic abuse is in Ireland?

iptba

UN chief warns domestic violence rising amid pandemic

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has urged governments to include the protection of women in their response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0406/1128780-un-chief-warns-domestic-violence-on-rise-in-pandemic/

No mention of men and RTE only gives domestic violence helpline number for women

iptba

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Does anyone have statistics or anecdotal stories of how common domestic abuse is in Ireland?

Statistics on Domestic Violence:
The findings of the National Crime Council’s National Study of Domestic Abuse by Watson and Parsons, (2005) show that:

• 15 per cent of women and 6 per cent of men have experienced severely abusive behaviour from a partner.
• 29 per cent of women and 26 per cent of men suffer domestic abuse when severe abuse and minor incidents are combined.
• In the region of 213,000 women and 88,000 men in Ireland have been severely abused by a partner at some point in their lives.

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PR16000347

Silentcorner

iptba wrote: »

UN chief warns domestic violence rising amid pandemic

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has urged governments to include the protection of women in their response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0406/1128780-un-chief-warns-domestic-violence-on-rise-in-pandemic/

No mention of men and RTE only gives domestic violence helpline number for women

The Domestic Abuse industry should be ashamed of themselves, never forget how these feminists deliberately misrepresent this important issue and how utterly immoral they are, never forget how complicit media is in this charade...people wonder why less and less people have any trust in modern day media.

Hippo

Silentcorner wrote: »

The Domestic Abuse industry should be ashamed of themselves, never forget how these feminists deliberately misrepresent this important issue and how utterly immoral they are, never forget how complicit media is in this charade...people wonder why less and less people have any trust in modern day media.

Is this a serious post?

Silentcorner

Hippo wrote: »

Is this a serious post?

Is this a serious post?

Silentcorner

Hippo wrote: »

Is this a serious post?

Just so you know I am not the only one who believes that the feminist movement has disgraced itself when it comes to Domestic Violence...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwB4iJs__Bo

"How Feminists Lie about Domestic Violence"

Just a quick reminder, this state funds services to female sufferers of Domestic Abuse to the tune of over €21 million a year, mens services gets circa €750,000....despite repeated studies demonstrating that Domestic Violence is not a gendered issue, it is a human issue.

iptba

iptba wrote: »

UN chief warns domestic violence rising amid pandemic

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has urged governments to include the protection of women in their response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0406/1128780-un-chief-warns-domestic-violence-on-rise-in-pandemic/

No mention of men and RTE only gives domestic violence helpline number for women

Now the pope:

Pope Francis said society had to stand behind women victims of domestic violence, as abuse increased around the world during coronavirus lockdowns.

The Pope praised women in frontline roles in helping society weather the crisis, mentioning doctors, nurses, police officers ,prison guards and sales staff in stores selling essential goods.

The pope also praised the many women at home helping children, the elderly and the disabled.

But, he said: "Sometimes they (women) risk being victims of violence in a cohabitation that they bear like a weight that is far too heavy."

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0413/1130198-spain-eases-lockdown-measures-china-cases-rise/

Silentcorner

Back in January our leader Varadkar was warning us about the "epidemic of domestic abuse" now we are being warned again about the "epidemic of domestic abuse".... they love the old emotive rhetoric....like Rape Culture, Gender Pay Gaps....I've actually heard about the orgasm gap....it's like dealing with teenagers!

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

Back in January our leader Varadkar was warning us about the "epidemic of domestic abuse" now we are being warned again about the "epidemic of domestic abuse".... they love the old emotive rhetoric....like Rape Culture, Gender Pay Gaps....I've actually heard about the orgasm gap....it's like dealing with teenagers!

Orgasm gap? seriously?

Silentcorner

Deleted User wrote: »

Orgasm gap? seriously?

I'm afraid not...

https://www.independent.ie/style/sex-relationships/niamh-horan-the-orgasm-gapand-why-its-a-more-pressing-issue-than-the-gender-pay-gap-37585825.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/09/female-orgasm-gap-sexual-iq

And don't forget about "Patriarchy Chicken"....apparently, according to headbanger feminists, we men stroll around the city streets in the belief that all women will get out of our way.....

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2019/02/how-play-patriarchy-chicken-why-i-refuse-move-out-way-men

Pawwed Rig

And they wonder why print media is dying

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

I'm afraid not...

https://www.independent.ie/style/sex-relationships/niamh-horan-the-orgasm-gapand-why-its-a-more-pressing-issue-than-the-gender-pay-gap-37585825.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/09/female-orgasm-gap-sexual-iq

And don't forget about "Patriarchy Chicken"....apparently, according to headbanger feminists, we men stroll around the city streets in the belief that all women will get out of our way.....

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2019/02/how-play-patriarchy-chicken-why-i-refuse-move-out-way-men

Good lord. The internet just breeds morons who, in turn, become "journalists". The amount of double standards and twisting of info is incredible. Surely they, themselves, can't believe this rubbish? Although, I guess it doesn't matter... they're still promoting this idea as being reality.

Silentcorner

Deleted User wrote: »

Good lord. The internet just breeds morons who, in turn, become "journalists". The amount of double standards and twisting of info is incredible. Surely they, themselves, can't believe this rubbish? Although, I guess it doesn't matter... they're still promoting this idea as being reality.

Well if you empower an entire gender you will end up with empowered morons, as both genders are capable of producing idiots.

Empowered morons are likely to believe anything that is presented as fact...they have abandoned reason!

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well if you empower an entire gender you will end up with empowered morons, as both genders are capable of producing idiots.

Empowered morons are likely to believe anything that is presented as fact...they have abandoned reason!

The whole idea of needing to empower women makes me want to puke.

All the women throughout my family are confident and successful women in their own roles. My mother a principal of a school, my sister has a successful home business, my aunt the head nurse, etc. All of them also managed to have families at the same time.

I look around and I rarely see any signs that women need to be empowered... unless they're just looking for a handout. A boost so that they don't have to work quite as hard as the other women or other men.

Are there exceptions? Sure... but for the most part, women, as a gender, haven't needed to be empowered since the 70s.

Silentcorner

It's why I cannot relate to this wave of feminism..I simply don't know women who you could consider weak, I'm attracted to confident women (not to be confused with "empowered" women), we are all surrounded by smart women ...You'll find that while media and politics and social media are rife with this nonsense, that we should treat women like they are infants....most women aren't that dumb...the ballot box suggests I am not wrong....the state of media would suggest I am not wrong...