* Motors Chat - Round 5*

Kaiser D · 23-03-2014 03:47PM

Is Top Gear over now for a while?

colm_mcm · 23-03-2014 03:54PM

Kaiser D wrote: »

Is Top Gear over now for a while?

Yeah, only 7 episodes

toastedpickles · 23-03-2014 03:57PM

pred racer wrote: »

An Alfa without leather is like a BMW without a cock driving it:p

This needs to be a post of the year or something :pac: Ahhh I love this place sometimes

YbFocus · 23-03-2014 04:07PM

toastedpickles wrote: »

This needs to be a post of the year or something :pac: Ahhh I love this place sometimes

Exactly what I mean

SG's post from the other day was just as good though " A downhill gathering Moss has no stones" or something like that

toastedpickles · 23-03-2014 04:08PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Exactly what I mean

SG's post from the other day was just as good though " A downhill gathering Moss has no stones" or something like that

Some galway rabble anyways :pac:

pred racer · 23-03-2014 04:27PM

pred racer wrote: »

An Alfa without leather is like a BMW without a cock driving it:p

colm_mcm wrote: »

I've seen an Alfa without leather though.

Colm's was better:D

CianRyan · 23-03-2014 06:18PM

Saw a certain mod hammering it up towards view point in a silver 325i.
Looking very well.

Alanstrainor · 23-03-2014 06:28PM

CianRyan wrote: »

Saw a certain mod hammering it up towards view point in a silver 325i.
Looking very well.

Nothin' quite like a Sunday spin! Needed to stretch it's legs

Foxhole Norman · 23-03-2014 06:30PM

Yes! Got a quote on a 525i after my crash runs out this year!

Supergurrier · 23-03-2014 06:34PM

I miss driving

Hopefully now Tuesday all will be sorted.

Foxhole Norman · 23-03-2014 06:36PM

I should point out that the quote I got was 7.5K Third Party or 10K Comprehensive :pac:

wotzgoingon · 23-03-2014 06:42PM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

I should point out that the quote I got was 7.5K Third Party or 10K Comprehensive :pac:

Holy ****! :eek:

Your not gonna pay that are you?

dgt · 23-03-2014 06:43PM

Interslice wrote: »

It's the heart break I'm worried about. Was just reading about the suspension on alfaowner.Stocks not up to the job with all the weight. They recomend upgrading with aftermarket stuff for 550stg. Seems a good but expensive idea. Brakes are apparently ****e too

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/2248600-post18.html
lol

no leather wouldn't be a game changer so much as timing belt needing done. Can it be done on a driveway with the engine in place?

1.9 m-jet seem the better option the more I look into it but doubt it will be got for them sort of moneys.Have a small 4 pot diesel phobia though:o, although in a medium sized car the weight becomes more of an issue. Also looking at this with my half sensible hat on. Looking more likely tbh unless it's a rusty shed. http://www.adverts.ie/car/audi/80-avant/1995-audi-80-avant-for-sale/2832739 bit of a step down

Superflex it up.€250 for the full car, no more flappy arms.

The brakes are sh*te as standard, a good set of ebc pads and a dot 5.1 fluid change are a start. Or if you have a grand knocking abut, GTA up the front of it!

As for no leather, meh. I prefer the velours (then again, I'm a weird c*nt

)

And doing a 2.4 tb is virtually an engine out job

Foxhole Norman · 23-03-2014 06:46PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Holy ****! :eek:

Your not gonna pay that are you?

God no! I refuse to pay insurance that is worth more than the value of the car. Simply not worth it.

Kaiser D · 23-03-2014 06:46PM

Classics are out in force this evening in Malahide.

Lovely evening for a spin.

GvidoR · 23-03-2014 06:59PM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

God no! I refuse to pay insurance that is worth more than the value of the car. Simply not worth it.

My insurance is twice the value of the car on third party only.

Interslice · 23-03-2014 07:03PM

dgt wrote: »

Superflex it up.€250 for the full car, no more flappy arms.

The brakes are sh*te as standard, a good set of ebc pads and a dot 5.1 fluid change are a start. Or if you have a grand knocking abut, GTA up the front of it!

As for no leather, meh. I prefer the velours (then again, I'm a weird c*nt )

And doing a 2.4 tb is virtually an engine out job

Cheers for that. Polybushes did cross my mind earlier. Will look into that.

Thought it looked a bit tight for the TB from a few engine bay pics

. Would probably have to fork out for a cam locking tool of some sort too. 500 to have it done otherwise?

I exchanged a few emails with the seller. Will probably come down to if he the receipts for all that work and the last TB change whenever that was.

Any of you on italian car club of ireland. Cant see what it says here about the car.
http://italiancarclubireland.com/icciforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=927

wotzgoingon · 23-03-2014 07:05PM

GvidoR wrote: »

My insurance is twice the value of the car on third party only.

Not good. I'm paying just under a grand. Next year it will be €470 or there abouts. I was banned for two years and then I have three years endorsement. But that ran out last month but I am still on the endrosement insurance as I'm half way through and it will be an extra year claims free, rather than starting fresh and losing half a year claims free.

GvidoR · 23-03-2014 07:19PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Not good. I'm paying just under a grand. Next year it will be €470 or there abouts. I was banned for two years and then I have three years endorsement. But that ran out last month but I am still on the endrosement insurance as I'm half way through and it will be an extra year claims free, rather than starting fresh and losing half a year claims free.

Damn. What I spent on my policy this year would cover 4 years for you.

wotzgoingon · 23-03-2014 07:28PM

GvidoR wrote: »

Damn. What I spent on my policy this year would cover 4 years for you.

Well I'm not on the cheap insurance yet. another 7 months to go. But if it's any consolation I was paying 3 or 4 grand when I was your age on 1.3 Honda civic, provisional licence.

GvidoR · 23-03-2014 07:37PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Well I'm not on the cheap insurance yet. another 7 months to go. But if it's any consolation I was paying 3 or 4 grand when I was your age on 1.3 Honda civic, provisional licence.

Well, I've a full licence, y'know...

At first I thought smaller engine = cheaper insurance, but it was strange to see the price go up from 1.6 Bora to a 1.3 Colt of the same year.

Old diesel · 23-03-2014 07:52PM

GvidoR wrote: »

Well, I've a full licence, y'know...

At first I thought smaller engine = cheaper insurance, but it was strange to see the price go up from 1.6 Bora to a 1.3 Colt of the same year.

I think insurance works on the risk profile of the car as well as the driver.

So if your a young driver insurers might actually see a 1.6 Bora - standard spec - as been a more sensible (old man type) car.

Then a 1.3 Colt.

Whats possibly happened is that the level of claims on 1.3 Colts is higher then on Bora 1.6s

So the risk is assessed on that basis - id also say a factor in the risk assessment isn't just the Colt itself - but the fact that a 1.3/1.4 Jap hatch - so Corolla/Colt/Civic - is in itself seen as a risk - as lots of young drivers will go for that type of car.

1.6 Saloons aren't on the agenda - so you might find the Bora situation applies to say a 1.6 Avensis too

Im open to correction on the above - but that's my theory on it anyhow

Big Nasty · 23-03-2014 07:53PM

dgt wrote: »

And doing a 2.4 tb is virtually an engine out job

Coming from the man who takes out the engine to change a plug, 'just for the craic'!

wotzgoingon · 23-03-2014 07:56PM

Old diesel wrote: »

I think insurance works on the risk profile of the car as well as the driver.

So if your a young driver insurers might actually see a 1.6 Bora - standard spec - as been a more sensible (old man type) car.

Then a 1.3 Colt.

Whats possibly happened is that the level of claims on 1.3 Colts is higher then on Bora 1.6s

So the risk is assessed on that basis - id also say a factor in the risk assessment isn't just the Colt itself - but the fact that a 1.3/1.4 Jap hatch - so Corolla/Colt/Civic - is in itself seen as a risk - as lots of young drivers will go for that type of car.

1.6 Saloons aren't on the agenda - so you might find the Bora situation applies to say a 1.6 Avensis too

Im open to correction on the above - but that's my theory on it anyhow

That's the way I see it as well.

GvidoR · 23-03-2014 08:00PM

So if I buy a Volvo 850 then my insurance will be dirt cheap?

Foxhole Norman · 23-03-2014 08:01PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

That's the way I see it as well.

Yup, my brother was paying €200 more on a 1.3 96 Civic than he would've been if he decided to get a 3.0 03 5 Series

Old diesel · 23-03-2014 08:11PM

GvidoR wrote: »

So if I buy a Volvo 850 then my insurance will be dirt cheap?

Its difficult to say - because firstly it depends on the model of the 850 - a T5 would be seen as a high performance car.

Also irish insurers are a bit odd on things like engine size - so could look at a 2 litre 850 - and risk assess it on it been a 2 litre - as in "2 litre - that's a performance car"

But to give you an idea of how insurers think - I recall reading online a chap in the Uk talking about his first car

He went for a 1.8 Nissan Bluebird - a family saloon with a 1.8 engine - because he could insure it for less then a 1 litre Fiesta.

Bluebird was less of a risk as far as insurer then the Fiesta.

Only way to see about the 850 is to just get a quote and see what comes back.

colm_mcm · 23-03-2014 08:14PM

Insurance in my 240bhp S Type was less than my 89bhp 2.0D Avensis, my 1.8 Civic is more expensive than both of them to insure despite being 100hp down on the Jaguar...

Big Nasty · 23-03-2014 08:16PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Insurance in my 240bhp S Type was less than my 89bhp 2.0D Avensis, my 1.8 Civic is more expensive than both of them to insure despite being 100hp down on the Jaguar...

It's all about risk.

Young lads drive Civics and the pipe and slipper brigade drive Jags, no matter how powerful.

It appears you're both Colm!

dgt · 23-03-2014 08:28PM

Same here with insurance. €1100 to renew the 406 (pricks :mad:) or €829 for the 520i, both fully comp

Interslice wrote: »

Cheers for that. Polybushes did cross my mind earlier. Will look into that.

Thought it looked a bit tight for the TB from a few engine bay pics . Would probably have to fork out for a cam locking tool of some sort too. 500 to have it done otherwise?

I exchanged a few emails with the seller. Will probably come down to if he the receipts for all that work and the last TB change whenever that was.

Any of you on italian car club of ireland. Cant see what it says here about the car.
http://italiancarclubireland.com/icciforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=927

The kits can be expensive but the superflex Strongflex kit isn't and having driven a V6 with that very kit I can say it handled very well!

I always get those 2 mixed up. It's strongflex you need

You'd need the engine out anyway, although some reckon you can tilt the engine and do it that way still in the bay.... I'd have it out though. Don't know what tools you'd need for the 2.4 but they shouldn't be too dear.

I'm on that forum

that thread is about a JTD SW that went to some chap in Galway, then went to Cork. Seems to be remapped. 04C26738

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