Mass Effect: Andromeda

Temptamperu

I am so glad I have no Vaults left... F**k the Remnant

RopeDrink

RopeDrink wrote: »

-- Kirrahe > Talon (probably the least likable character I've seen in ME3 for a while - thankfully, EDI and Garrus can give him some good burns while he's going on and on like you're some sort of scumbag for your actions on Virmire). Thane/Kirrahe being alive/dead have significant effects when it comes to dealing with Kai Lang / Council.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_33u_S5Xyw

I legitimately had no idea who Kirrahe was. Was he in the base ME3 game or part of DLC?

Going for a 10er in Gamestop of all places at the minute on PS4 https://www.gamestop.ie/Playstation%204/Games/46364/mass-effect-andromeda

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Going for a 10er in Gamestop of all places at the minute on PS4 https://www.gamestop.ie/Playstation%204/Games/46364/mass-effect-andromeda

Somebody mentioned over on the PlayStation forum that Gamestop cancelled their ME:A order early this morning.

nedd

Can’t find a recent thread on this and I just have a quick question.

I haven’t played any Mass Effect games, I have a PS4. I am thinking of getting Andromeda.

Reviews are not great and friends have said it is very bad.

How good / bad is it? Should I give it a go or try something else?

Thanks

Potential-Monke

Here ya go. All 113 pages!

I loved the original trilogy, even with the crap endings, but Andromeda was a borefest to me. Played maybe 15 hours and haven't been back to it since. Good idea, bad characters and I just don't feel for anyone or anything in it, unlike ME2 in particular, where I was heavily invested in the characters and story.

Doctor Nick

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Here ya go. All 113 pages!

I loved the original trilogy, even with the crap endings, but Andromeda was a borefest to me. Played maybe 15 hours and haven't been back to it since. Good idea, bad characters and I just don't feel for anyone or anything in it, unlike ME2 in particular, where I was heavily invested in the characters and story.

Is the second really good? I have ME2, ME3 and Metal Gear Solid HD collection sitting there for PS3 and debating what to start after HZD. Have narrowed it down to above 3 and Yakuza. Such a backlog of games.

Ri_Nollaig

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Is the second really good? I have ME2, ME3 and Metal Gear Solid HD collection sitting there for PS3 and debating what to start after HZD. Have narrowed it down to above 3 and Yakuza. Such a backlog of games.

ME2 was the peak of the series for me!
Improved on the original while adding new and interesting characters/mechanics.
Loved every minute of it, well, maybe not the planet scanning bit but still one of my favourite games of all time.
When I first finished it, I just wanted to restart and go again.
ME3 was still good but more of a disappointment coming from the second one.

I ignored Andromeda due to the feedback it was getting, but will probably pick it up at some point when its on sale.

baby and crumble

I am a HUGE fan of the ME games, and I replay the original trilogy a lot.

I have a game of Andromeda ongoing, but it's not one I particularly "can't wait" to play, like the rest of the trilogy. I would recommend playing the 1st one but it is rather clunky and dated, the story is great and it'll give you a fair bit of background that isn't vital for 2 & 3 but is helpful. There's a DLC you can get that allows you to make the major decisions from the 1st one and outlines main plotpoints in like a 15 minute "comic book" kind of style, to set you up for 2 & 3.

I'd also recommend playing as a female Shephard, simply because the female voice actor is SO much better than the male voice actor!!!

With Andromeda I was incredibly disappointed with it, coming from a huge fan of the original trilogy. But I'd say now that the patches are done and the game is stable, it could be a grand game if you don't have an investment inthe characters and world of the first few games. If you play it as a standalone game it's less disappointing.

nedd

Thanks everyone, it is €20 on the PSN so might give it a lash

K.O.Kiki

I played 100hrs of Andromeda and I will never get that time back.

Biggest gaming disappointment of my life.

The Specialist

I played the original trilogy and loved them (despite the crappy colour coded ending for 3), so I was excited for Andromeda. I got it on release day and apart from a few ropey animations, it was a great game and kept me hooked for nearly a week straight.

The internet reaction at the time however, was worthy of nothing less than a double facepalm - a load of mouthy opinionated ****ers seriously hating on the game over some of its animations. I'd suspect half of them didn't even play the ****ing thing. So the game got buried under this idea that it was the worst thing you could put in your PS4 since Life of black tiger when it simply wasn't true. Even ****ty gaming sites like Eurogamer had articles about "how to enjoy Mass Effect Andromeda" like it was utterly broken.

So a promising new story to the Mass Effect series got killed by online ****wits along with the gaming media.

If you are buying it, you will enjoy it (obviously if you didn't like ME 1-3 you probably won't enjoy Andromeda either, but I'd dare any fans of the original series to give it a few hours and say its a bad game with a straight face). It's not a bad game at all. But thanks to the internet, we'll never get a sequel so the time you sink in to it will be for nothing.

Potential-Monke

The Specialist wrote: »

I played the original trilogy and loved them (despite the crappy colour coded ending for 3), so I was excited for Andromeda. I got it on release day and apart from a few ropey animations, it was a great game and kept me hooked for nearly a week straight.

The internet reaction at the time however, was worthy of nothing less than a double facepalm - a load of mouthy opinionated ****ers seriously hating on the game over some of its animations. I'd suspect half of them didn't even play the ****ing thing. So the game got buried under this idea that it was the worst thing you could put in your PS4 since Life of black tiger when it simply wasn't true. Even ****ty gaming sites like Eurogamer had articles about "how to enjoy Mass Effect Andromeda" like it was utterly broken.

So a promising new story to the Mass Effect series got killed by online ****wits along with the gaming media.

If you are buying it, you will enjoy it (obviously if you didn't like ME 1-3 you probably won't enjoy Andromeda either, but I'd dare any fans of the original series to give it a few hours and say its a bad game with a straight face). It's not a bad game at all. But thanks to the internet, we'll never get a sequel so the time you sink in to it will be for nothing.

I put a good few hours into it, enough to decide if it was good or bad. And while it wasn't bad, it didn't have the pull of the original games to keep me interested. Yes, there was a lot of backlash due to bad animations, but I played the game knowing that I could over look those if the story and gameplay were good enough. The gameplay wasn't bad, but the story was extremely meh to me. No vested interest in the characters, coupled with a world that just didn't seem as interesting, and I lost all interest. And I was a massive fan of the original trilogy.

nedd

The Specialist wrote: »

But thanks to the internet, we'll never get a sequel so the time you sink in to it will be for nothing.

That a weird way to look at it, if the game is enjoyable while playing it then the time is not sunk for nothing. The lack of a sequel, or possible sequel, shouldn’t diminish the enjoyment of a game.

Nody

Only because you liked it The Specialist does not mean everyone else does; in the end it was a rushed, shallow game lacking story due to last minute changes by EA which are well known at this stage. The only thing it had going for it was it's Mass Effect name which was also it's curse as it set the expectations there after. Without the Mass Effect name it would be forgotten as a bland generic space RPG of middling quality.

K.O.Kiki

The Specialist wrote: »

I played the original trilogy and loved them (despite the crappy colour coded ending for 3), so I was excited for Andromeda. I got it on release day and apart from a few ropey animations, it was a great game and kept me hooked for nearly a week straight.

The internet reaction at the time however, was worthy of nothing less than a double facepalm - a load of mouthy opinionated ****ers seriously hating on the game over some of its animations. I'd suspect half of them didn't even play the ****ing thing. So the game got buried under this idea that it was the worst thing you could put in your PS4 since Life of black tiger when it simply wasn't true. Even ****ty gaming sites like Eurogamer had articles about "how to enjoy Mass Effect Andromeda" like it was utterly broken.

So a promising new story to the Mass Effect series got killed by online ****wits along with the gaming media.

If you are buying it, you will enjoy it (obviously if you didn't like ME 1-3 you probably won't enjoy Andromeda either, but I'd dare any fans of the original series to give it a few hours and say its a bad game with a straight face). It's not a bad game at all. But thanks to the internet, we'll never get a sequel so the time you sink in to it will be for nothing.

I'd count myself as a Mass Effect super-fan.

Bought ALL the DLC for the Trilogy, did 2-3 100% runs, imported an official hoodie for €100+.

Bought the game on Day 1, even used the VPN trick so I could play it earlier.

Finished ME:A 99% (missing out on 2 missions, 1 due to a bug).

And I'd tell you, to your face, you're wrong & crazy :pac:

Andromeda is a mess, not just because of animations (though they are BAD). But also mission structures, a boring main quest, poorly implemented & written characters, stiff gunplay, boring guns, 2 new alien races that are just PLAIN, and a general feeling of drudgery throughout the whole experience.

It's not a 1/10 game, but it's a true 5/10 - it works for the most part but there's nothing it stands out in.
Such a pity, because the concept pitch (basically a better No Man's Sky) would've made me happier than Liara in a Prothean ruin.

Patser

I bought Andromeda recently while it was on sale, and would pretty much agree with what a few above are saying. It's not bad, and definitely not an unplayable mess that some online reviews suggest, but after playing for a few hours I kinda drifted away from it and don't feel compelled to play again.

In contrast (again repeating others) ME2 is one of the best games I've ever played (and replayed and replayed). And you'd probably get the trilogy as cheap as Andromeda.

My advice is to definitely play ME1 first - it has a really strong story that continues a lot into 2 (you'll feel like your missing references if you skip it). Gameplay wise it's a bit annoying - especially the Mako - which they really ironed out in 2. But if you play it first the gameplay won't feel as jarring than if you play 2 first and then go back for completeness. The frustration of not being able to do easily what you can in 2 will kill the game.

super_furry

It's functional but really, really boring.

Temptamperu

I just played it for the soduko

Kiith

I enjoyed Andromeda. It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. It wasn't really Mass Effect.

Worth playing if you enjoy these types of games imo.

nedd

Thanks everyone for your response, there is a Demo on the PSN so I gave that a go last night. About 2 hours in. I will stick with it until the Demo ends, I will make the decision then to spend the €20 or not.

K.O.Kiki

Try out Warframe, F2P with some similarities.

Gbear

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I played 100hrs of Andromeda and I will never get that time back.

Biggest gaming disappointment of my life.

That sounds completely mental, putting that amount of time into something you don't like, but I did exactly the same with Skyrim and, to a lesser extent, Fallout 4.

Some games are really good at teasing you and stringing you along, setting little targets that take quite a lot of grinding and tricking you into thinking it'll all be worthwhile.

I did the single player once and even if there was DLC I'd never go back. The MP is fairly good but I'd imagine the numbers are starting to dwindle.

I jumped right back into ME 2 and 3 after finishing them and I must've completed ME2 10-15 times but this one just had no hold over me.

A lot of the work done for the game is salvageable, IMO.
I'd love to see the IP go somewhere else - for someone like Obsidian take the raw materials and make something actually enjoyable.

Get them to do an immediate sequel to ME3 back in our galaxy, pare back the exploration to something done wholly on foot, get a new more compelling cast, give the UI a going over, give the story and script to someone else (see if Ol Drew Karpyshyn would fancy it), chuck a few new alien character models in and you'd be flying.

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be their MO anymore though.

Kiith

Surely if you're really not enjoying something after 100 hours, you should have stopped a long time ago? I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through that much of something they don't enjoy.

And it's not like 100 hours is required to finish the story...100 hours is a 100% completion playthrough.

Gbear

Kiith wrote: »

Surely if you're really not enjoying something after 100 hours, you should have stopped a long time ago? I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through that much of something they don't enjoy.

And it's not like 100 hours is required to finish the story...100 hours is a 100% completion playthrough.

It requires a lack of self-awareness in how much you're enjoying it.
Your brain gets stuck in a loop and can't understand when the delayed gratification you're being promised never actually gets a pay off.

I probably put 50-60 hours into the SP for one campaign. I finished it because I don't like leaving things undone. I enjoyed my 30-odd hours of MP.

For something like Skyrim, I probably bought into the hype and assumed I was playing the game wrong, restarting 2 or 3 times before realising that the game I was looking for hidden inside wasn't really there.
Fallout strung me along more because FPS mechanics are better than FP-ax-swinging but even so I didn't really make the same mistake and shelved it after 30-40 hours.

baby and crumble

Gbear wrote: »

Get them to do an immediate sequel to ME3 back in our galaxy, pare back the exploration to something done wholly on foot, get a new more compelling cast, give the UI a going over, give the story and script to someone else (see if Ol Drew Karpyshyn would fancy it), chuck a few new alien character models in and you'd be flying.

This would be great. Be tasked with building the various planets and civilisations back up after the war. It'd probably be super hard given the drastically different impacts of the choices made in ME:3 though, for continuation purposes.

Gbear

baby and crumble wrote: »

This would be great. Be tasked with building the various planets and civilisations back up after the war. It'd probably be super hard given the drastically different impacts of the choices made in ME:3 though, for continuation purposes.

If it meant having a proper ME game they can canonise or retcon whatever they like as far as I'm concerned.

I'd be surprised if the franchise is completely dead.

Nothing stays dead any more. Not so long as it can make money.

K.O.Kiki

Gbear wrote: »

That sounds completely mental, putting that amount of time into something you don't like, but I did exactly the same with Skyrim and, to a lesser extent, Fallout 4.

Kiith wrote: »

Surely if you're really not enjoying something after 100 hours, you should have stopped a long time ago? I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through that much of something they don't enjoy.

And it's not like 100 hours is required to finish the story...100 hours is a 100% completion playthrough.

It was a mixture of thick-headedness & sadness as I realised this was basically going to be the last time I would get a Mass Effect game, so I pressed on just to see as much as I could in my single playthrough.

In fairness to the ME:A team, the final battle was actually pretty good in terms of structure & gameplay.

Potential-Monke

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

In fairness to the ME:A team, the final battle was actually pretty good in terms of structure & gameplay.

Pity it's just so boring and bland that I couldn't even make it there...

nedd

I downloaded the Demo and put about 4 hours into it, this got me to the paywall. So far I am enjoying it so I paid for €20. To unlock the full game.

Maybe because I dont have experience of Mass Effect before, and maybe I haven’t got far enough into the story for it to be boring.

I am still in the same place I am always in for the first 10 hours of an RPG, trying to understand the weapons, mods, characters...