RTÉ ONE HD on Sky

Rick_

So we have RTÉ TWO in HD, when will ONE come along? Will they be able to put it on the existing RTÉ transponder or will they need a new one? If they got a new one it could house RTÉ ONE, and TWO in HD along with TG 4 HD. I would have said TV 3 HD could go there too, but the likelihood of that happening now seems even lower than before...

lertsnim

Its not properly launched yet so some time after that happens I would say. January would be my guess

formerly scottish paddy

It's due to launch before the end of the year, but on Saorview first ( hence the start of Mux 2) Probably on Sky early next year.

byte

I think I read somewhere that it wasn't officially launching until January...

icdg

Moved to Satellite

The Cush

byte wrote: »

I think I read somewhere that it wasn't officially launching until January...

Saorview's Brian Geraghty said on Morning Ireland the day Mux2 was launched that RTÉ1 HD "was coming in the New Year"

radiowaves

Ah.

I thought it had now appeared on the Sky platform (however unlikely).

The thread title should have a ? at the end.

Jpmarn

According to the technical page on Aertel with regards to rescanning your tv for Saorview it mention that the launch would be later this year.

The Cush

Jpmarn wrote: »

According to the technical page on Aertel with regards to rescanning your tv for Saorview it mention that the launch would be later this year.

No mention of it on Aertel p169 - http://www.rte.ie/aertel/desktopxhtml/169-2.html

Jpmarn

The Cush wrote: »

No mention of it on Aertel p169 - http://www.rte.ie/aertel/desktopxhtml/169-2.html

Go to page 650!

The Cush

Jpmarn wrote: »

Go to page 650!

This re-scan is to facilitate the launch of RTÉ One HD later this year. Viewers will not notice any significant change following this re-scan however failure to re-scan will result in the eventual loss of service.

Since August the official sources are saying "later this year" and "in the New Year", so in the coming months then.

byte

Heh, it's not like RTÉ to be vague!

Jpmarn

They did test some HD content in the last two weeks on the RTE One HD channel. But it looks like up scaled SD until the official launch on a date to be announced. Please give us a Christmas present, full HD programming on RTE One.

Rick_

Love/Hate (although it was a let down) looked quite good last night. I don't think it was HD, but as far as upscaled SD looked, it was very very good.

Widescreen

Jpmarn wrote: »

They did test some HD content in the last two weeks on the RTE One HD channel. But it looks like up scaled SD until the official launch on a date to be announced. Please give us a Christmas present, full HD programming on RTE One.

Some chance, we haven't even got that on RTE2 "hd" yet, aka the Childrens Channel!

Patty O Furniture

Just before Pictorial Weekly came on, the announcer mentioned ''now on RTE ONE & RTE ONE HD'' i was thinking where is it?

Did anyone else hear that?

icdg

It officially launched on Monday. Sky need to lift their EPG freeze before it can launch on Sky, but it'll get there eventually.

JDxtra

Considering RTE One have broadcast zero HD content so far (as far as I am aware), Sky may have a problem listing it as a HD channel.

They might bend the rules for PSBs, but in general there needs to be a minimum amount of HD content. I agree with them on this. Simply upscaling everything and sticking a HD logo on screen does not make a HD channel.

Jpmarn

I was looking through the Saorview EPG last night and we in for some Christmas treats in HD on RTE One. There is quite a few programmes and feature films marked for HD over the next week. There are a couple of feature films for RTE Two marked for HD. So it is well worth for Sky to take on the HD version of RTE One.

Mr Cumulonimbus

Jpmarn wrote: »

I was looking through the Saorview EPG last night and we in for some Christmas treats in HD on RTE One. There is quite a few programmes and feature films marked for HD over the next week. There are a couple of feature films for RTE Two marked for HD. So it is well worth for Sky to take on the HD version of RTE One.

Yip, Shrek Forvever After due to be HD as is a Harry Potter film after that on Christmas Day.

Dr. Nick

Gerry Adams was in HD the other evening on RTE 1 HD Saorview

Racket

JDxtra wrote: »

Considering RTE One have broadcast zero HD content so far (as far as I am aware), Sky may have a problem listing it as a HD channel.

They might bend the rules for PSBs, but in general there needs to be a minimum amount of HD content. I agree with them on this. Simply upscaling everything and sticking a HD logo on screen does not make a HD channel.

With the number of films on over Christmas, they'd probably have come close if not exceed the quota for at least one of the requirements to be an HD channel on the EPG. At least for the 3 month period quota, if it had launched beforehand.

Though, I'm sure RTÉ and Sky would have a reason to fulfil the special requirement area if there isn't enough HD content acquired to meet any of the quotas, which RTÉ Two HD must have had, or still has even, considering the amount of HD content which appears on it.

Pocaide

Any idea when we might expect to see it on Sky Epg

phill106

Checked with sky on an online chat, they had no info.

Pocaide

That's a pity guess we will just have to wait.

morrga

Any sign of this channel making into on to Sky soon?

channelsurfer2

morrga wrote: »

Any sign of this channel making into on to Sky soon?

no sign. but rte seem to be upping the pressure by advertising its available on all platforms except SKY daily.

radiowaves

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

no sign. but rte seem to be upping the pressure by advertising its available on all platforms except SKY daily.

Firstly, is that not just advising viewers - a fair amount (a majority?) of whom would be watching via Sky - rather than pressure?

Secondly, even if it is pressure it's a bit disingenuous if Sky could turn around and counter that it's not even on their own satellite platform

evilivor

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

no sign. but rte seem to be upping the pressure by advertising its available on all platforms except SKY daily.

Sky Ireland MD, JD Buckley was on The Pat Kenny Radio show this morning and when when asked about RTE OneHD joining the Sky platform said he hoped to have it as soon as possible.

Pocaide

Here's hoping.

channelsurfer2

radiowaves wrote: »

Firstly, is that not just advising viewers - a fair amount (a majority?) of whom would be watching via Sky - rather than pressure?

Secondly, even if it is pressure it's a bit disingenuous if Sky could turn around and counter that it's not even on their own satellite platform

fair point but it does encourage some of them to ring sky and ask them why cant they get it so that leads to pressure...and rather than say its not on their platform they should be providing it.

byte

Does RTE1 HD have enough HD content to qualify being carried on Sky? Pretty sure Sky require a certain number of hours of HD programming content per day/week to qualify.

same ol sh1te

byte wrote: »

Does RTE1 HD have enough HD content to qualify being carried on Sky? Pretty sure Sky require a certain number of hours of HD programming content per day/week to qualify.

It wasn't an issue when they first carried RTE Two HD, was mostly upscaled SD at the time

Jpmarn

I think that the bulk of the programming on both RTE One and Two is in HD. Put they are very bad at marking the HD programmes as HD on their listings. Is it for financial reasons. It may had applied for grant aid from some source and would not qualify if there is too many "HD " programmes. A very good indication of a programme is in HD is the promo before hand being on the HD version of the channel.

The Cush

Jpmarn wrote: »

It may had applied for grant aid from some source and would not qualify if there is too many "HD " programmes.

I don't understand what you're saying here?

Jpmarn

The Cush wrote: »

I don't understand what you're saying here?

Well I am not aware that RTE has applied for any grant aid. As I said in an earlier post about the HD programming I was surmising the grant issue. Have you any other reason why RTE is so bad at marking HD programmes as such on their listings. As a rule most studio based programmes are up scaled SD. The opposite is true for programmes shot outside the studios.

The Cush

Studio based programes are SD because it'll take time for them to upgrade the facilities for HD due to the lack of cash.

The only grant aid for programming that I can think of would be the BAI's Sound and Vision fund, I assume all this programming is now shot in HD by default - http://www.bai.ie/?page_id=92.

channelsurfer2

I think the news studios etc are all still SD but the foreign imports are HD with Eastenders etc. along with sports events(just not the studio presentation). Also any of the dramas such as Love/Hate are shown in HD if they are filmed in HD.

same ol sh1te

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

I think the news studios etc are all still SD but the foreign imports are HD with Eastenders etc. along with sports events(just not the studio presentation). Also any of the dramas such as Love/Hate are shown in HD if they are filmed in HD.

Love/Hate was shown on Rte One before it went HD

lertsnim

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Love/Hate was shown on Rte One before it went HD

They also repeated the first few series on RTE Two HD last year

Comhrá

Will RTE 1HD just appear on Sky without any notice some day soon, or will there be a well trumpeted fanfare weeks in advance?

Wondering how much importance either RTE or Sky place on this coming to pass?

lertsnim

It will need to be tested first. When that happens I am sure this place will light up like a Christmas tree.

The Cush

tippman1 wrote: »

Wondering how much importance either RTE or Sky place on this coming to pass?

It's in Sky's hands, no doubt RTÉ would like to see it there.

RTÉ are running a promo ad for RTÉ1 HD atm where it mentions that the channel is carried on Saorview, UPC and eVision with the respective platforms' logos at the bottom of the screen, it might be a little nudge to Sky to say you're missing from this bit of free promotion.

irishgeo

The Cush wrote: »

It's in Sky's hands, no doubt RTÉ would like to see it there.

RTÉ are running a promo ad for RTÉ1 HD atm where it mentions that the channel is carried on Saorview, UPC and eVision with the respective platforms' logos at the bottom of the screen, it might be a little nudge to Sky to say you're missing from this bit of free promotion.

or an excuse to put the price up

mad muffin

Damn these teasing adds

I have BBC One HD but not RTE One HD :rolleyes: and I don't even pay for the BBC TV license…

lertsnim

Who do you blame for that situation?

mad muffin

lertsnim wrote: »

Who do you blame for that situation?

Are you referring to me?

I'd say its Sky dragging their heels?

JDxtra

Sky can make it happen if they really want to. Either they are not bothered, or RTE One doesn't have enough HD content to satisfy their EPG rules. That's my opinion!

MBSnr

^^^
I think Sky say RTE haven't provided or contacted them regarding RTE 1 HD. I'm not sure what RTE say, but probably that Sky haven't spoken to them.....

But being as Sky have to pay the carriage for RTE, then adding it is an associated additional cost for them, so you'd wonder how it would be in their interest. I'd have thought RTE would want it available across all platforms, so I'm tempted to point the finger more at Sky.

But then you'd wonder how Sky agreed to carry RTE 2 HD with the extra cost - although no doubt it's factored in our bills.....

So no one is any the wiser.

channelsurfer2

MBSnr wrote: »

^^^
I think Sky say RTE haven't provided or contacted them regarding RTE 1 HD. I'm not sure what RTE say, but probably that Sky haven't spoken to them.....

But being as Sky have to pay the carriage for RTE, then adding it is an associated additional cost for them, so you'd wonder how it would be in their interest. I'd have thought RTE would want it available across all platforms, so I'm tempted to point the finger more at Sky.

But then you'd wonder how Sky agreed to carry RTE 2 HD with the extra cost - although no doubt it's factored in our bills.....

So no one is any the wiser.

they provided it just in time for the Olympics because they were being bombarded with rte2hd now on saorview for free ads. Its amazing how they bleat on how much they do for Ireland yet are the only provider without the national station in HD.

murpho999

MBSnr wrote: »

^^^
I think Sky say RTE haven't provided or contacted them regarding RTE 1 HD. I'm not sure what RTE say, but probably that Sky haven't spoken to them.....

But being as Sky have to pay the carriage for RTE, then adding it is an associated additional cost for them, so you'd wonder how it would be in their interest. I'd have thought RTE would want it available across all platforms, so I'm tempted to point the finger more at Sky.

But then you'd wonder how Sky agreed to carry RTE 2 HD with the extra cost - although no doubt it's factored in our bills.....

So no one is any the wiser.

Surely it's in their interest not to have competitors with better channel options for fear of subscribers jumping ship?