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FIREBIRD C26 BLACK SMOKE

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  • #32
    agusta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    Hi,The flue points upwards to avoid the condesate liquid driping from the flue.It would seem more obvious to some people to have it pointing down.But it would not cause the black smoke if pointing down as shane said.My opinion would be that the plaster removed it to make life easier and get a clear run on that wall,quite normal.what might have happened is that the flue "air intake and exaust" werent covered with e.g plastic and your father in law plastered the wall and then when finished cleaned the excess mortor from the flue.There is a good chance when cleaning the flue after the wall was plastered, mortor got pushed down the air intake.I would remove the flexible hose from the right hand side of burner and the flue by opening the jubliee clips and look for traces of mortor,also look into the air intake of the burner after the flexible hose is removed


  • #33
    agusta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    When the flue end was removed to plaster the walls, it would have been left off for few days so it possible for a leaf or a bit of insulation to get into the air intake when the flue end and flue guard were off.It may not be mortar


  • #34
    churchtown2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭churchtown2012


    Another thought i was getting kero from the garage pump to top the tank up last summer and i may have used a condaminated diesel drum with a trace of diesel in it...would thos poss problems?????


  • #35
    agusta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    churchtown2012 wrote: »
    Another thought i was getting kero from the garage pump to top the tank up last summer and i may have used a condaminated diesel drum with a trace of diesel in it...would thos poss problems?????
    possible but i would still think its an air intake problem as wearb said in post 2,The flue end and the guard being off would be the commom denominator.did you remove the flexible hose from the right hand side of the burner and see did you see anything inside the burner where you took off the flexible hose..


  • #36
    churchtown2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭churchtown2012


    agusta wrote: »
    possible but i would still think its an air intake problem as wearb said in post 2,The flue end and the guard being off would be the commom denominator.did you remove the flexible hose from the right hand side of the burner and see did you see anything inside the burner where you took off the flexible hose..

    I did agusta all is clear no debris and no traces of soot anywhere...could the flue be letting in water if it was the wrong way around i.e rain water


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  • #37
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    shane0007 wrote: »
    100% you won't sort a HE Firebird sooting issue without a service call. The rear flue way will also require cleaning as it is extremely narrow & will be totally affected by sooting.

    You will also require a service engineer who is experienced on sorting Environmax boiler issues. Soot & condensing boilers don't mix well.
    I've a lot of experience with SOOTING ENVIROMAX (2 effin much)


  • #38
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    anthonyos wrote: »
    will try him I have asked in hevac hm and other places nobody has them thanks ..what do they cost ???I have the pump but lost the chart and paper

    I get my paper off Heatmerchants or Hamilton gas products.

    You don't need a smoke chart if you can see.

    Black---grey---lighter grey- --tweeny weeney bit grey- --clear = PERFECT

    Yellow = to much air, not all oil vapour is burning, risk of high level of co.


  • #39
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    Mass done you a lot of good today I see. Love thy neighbour an all that.!!


  • #40
    churchtown2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭churchtown2012


    I think you will find that the advise i have been giving is to get a plumber in...which i intend to do.....


  • #41
    jimf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭jimf


    and a happy sunday to you too nuzzer hope you need assistance sometime we will all be happy to help you out im sure


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  • #42
    esox28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    Try to understand this then come back to us!


    http://legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/299479/posts/105332/public


  • #43
    churchtown2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭churchtown2012


    jimf wrote: »
    and a happy sunday to you too nuzzer hope you need assistance sometime we will all be happy to help you out im sure

    He sounds like a jack of all trades and a master of none.....thanks for all the replies( bar 1 )


  • #44
    jimf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭jimf


    esox28 wrote: »
    Try to understand this then come back to us!


    http://legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/299479/posts/105332/public


    good one esox


  • #45
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Ah now Nuzzer, you know we are only reading all this from a book so it takes a bit longer. Have some patience. We can't all be as good with words as you.


  • #46
    jimf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭jimf


    shane0007 wrote: »
    Ah now Nuzzer, you know we are only reading all this from a book so it takes a bit longer. Have some patience. We can't all be as good with words as you.


    you and your memory ????


  • #47
    crock!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭crock!


    Its people like nuzzer that keeps us busy from his lack of knowledge and ability to learn.
    Only yesturday i meet a fb c35 running on 7 bar with a .60 80s.
    500 litres gone in two months.
    Yes the guys here read books and manuals all the time.
    THATS WHY THERE ON TOP OF THERE GAME.


  • #48
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    If memory serves me correct, that nuzzer let a few rants like that months ago then was banned


  • #49
    jimf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭jimf


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    If memory serves me correct, that nuzzer let a few rants like that months ago then was banned


    had a gawk back on his posts nice chap alright I thought for a while twas qbe/williewinkie back again but its a bit early in the day for him


  • #50
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    jimf wrote: »
    had a gawk back on his posts nice chap alright I thought for a while twas qbe/williewinkie back again but its a bit early in the day for him

    I didn't even look back through his posts. I remembered the posts and how disturbed he was


  • #51
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    Churchtown 2012 still needs smokey boiler fixed in the Mullingar/Longford area.
    Anybody nearby to help?


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  • #52
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    They say you should meditate for at least 20 minutes per day, but if you are very busy, at least an hour of meditation!
    Poor ol' Nuzzer could do with, well let's just say a long time....


  • #53
    churchtown2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭churchtown2012


    A big thank you to scudo2....just had board member contact me willing to get the boiler sorted.....thanks for all the GOOD advise from the other members too......and nuzzer change your name to nuttser :-)


  • #54
    crock!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭crock!


    Its people like nuzzer that keeps us busy from his lack of knowledge and ability to learn.
    Only yesturday i meet a fb c35 running on 7 bar with a .60 80s.
    500 litres gone in two months.
    Yes the guys here read books and manuals all the time.
    THATS WHY THERE ON TOP OF THERE GAME.


  • #55
    esox28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    I could sort op out but not till Wednesday, if that's any good.
    Churchtown 2012 still needs smokey boiler fixed in the Mullingar/Longford area.
    Anybody nearby to help?


  • #56
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    MOD.
    Please don't ban "nozzer" for a while yet.
    lets have some fun first. pz.


  • #57
    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    Bet you have hydraulics on the van ;)


  • #58
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    Billy Bunting wrote: »
    Bet you have hydraulics on the van ;)

    And a DIY gas sniffer !


  • #59
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    scudo2 wrote: »
    MOD.
    Please don't ban "nozzer" for a while yet.
    lets have some fun first. pz.

    Fun's over. A 2 week holiday for nuzzer. Next one will be permanent.
    Maybe next time ease my workload by not quoting such posts everytime.
    As the saying goes
    Don't feed the trolls


    edit....
    Just looked back at this lads history here.
    Ban is permanant.


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