At long last Starbucks realise there is civilisation outside of the Pale.

philthrill69

At long last Starbucks will open their doors in Cork next month, literally buzzing http://www.96fm.ie/News-Local-Info?ItemID=2223
And before any of the coffee snobs pipe up and say "Starbucks wouldn't know coffee if a boiling cup spilled in their laps"
Save it.

imitation

philthrill69 wrote: »

At long last Starbucks will open their doors in Cork next month, literally buzzing http://www.96fm.ie/News-Local-Info?ItemID=2223
And before any of the coffee snobs pipe up and say "Starbucks wouldn't know coffee if a boiling cup spilled in their laps"
Save it.

Pity its not in the city centre. Cork could really use a coffee place thats open after 6, so people who dont want a pint can hang out.

philthrill69

imitation wrote: »

Pity its not in the city centre. Cork could really use a coffee place thats open after 6, so people who dont want a pint can hang out.

True, I'm saying for the last few years that Opera Lane would be a no brainer for Starbucks, even emailed them a few times suggesting it.
But I'm not complaining, Citygate is a lot closer than Kildare Village :-)

adocholiday

It's a pity that starbucks coffee is pure shíte!

vibe666

philthrill69 wrote: »

At long last Starbucks realise there is civilisation outside of the Pale.

i'm still not convinced, it's a wilderness out there! :pac:

Homer

adocholiday wrote: »

It's a pity that starbucks coffee is pure shíte!

You quite clearly need to go back to school as you can't read or are just ignorant. I'd bet on the latter.

MarkR

I think they do starbucks coffee in the University of Limerick. Not worth the hassle to try to park there though! I nearly had one in Kildare before, but the queue was massive! Went for the stand outside, and it was lovely.

Ditto in Disneyland Paris actually. Queue was too long, and I didn't bother. I'm beginning to think I'm a bit lazy!

Faith

Homer wrote: »

You quite clearly need to go back to school as you can't read or are just ignorant. I'd bet on the latter.

Infracted. Attack the post, not the poster.

philthrill69

adocholiday wrote: »

It's a pity that starbucks coffee is pure shíte!

It's a pity this post is so shìte, uneducated and ignorant.
Attacked the post not the poster ;-)

Mr Magnolia

Back on topic please all.

philthrill69 wrote: »

It's a pity this post is so shìte, uneducated and ignorant.
Attacked the post not the poster ;-)

Infracted. Please leaving the modding to the moderators.

Going Forward

philthrill69 wrote: »

At long last Starbucks will open their doors in Cork next month, literally buzzing http://www.96fm.ie/News-Local-Info?ItemID=2223
And before any of the coffee snobs pipe up and say "Starbucks wouldn't know coffee if a boiling cup spilled in their laps"
Save it.

Starbucks.
The McDonalds of cafes.

Have a nice day.

Going Forward

philthrill69 wrote: »

At long last Starbucks will open their doors in Cork next month, literally buzzing http://www.96fm.ie/News-Local-Info?ItemID=2223
And before any of the coffee snobs pipe up and say "Starbucks wouldn't know coffee if a boiling cup spilled in their laps"
Save it.

Starbucks.
The McDonalds of cafes.

Have a nice day.

philthrill69

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Back on topic please all.



Infracted. Please leaving the modding to the moderators.

Please explain to me how me attacking this guys post like the admin suggested is moderating?

philthrill69

Going Forward wrote: »

Starbucks.
The McDonalds of cafes.

Have a nice day.

So important you had to post it twice?
And if your comparison to McDonald's refers to both of them being muti billion dollar successful corporations then I agree.

galwayjohn89

Don't want to go too far off topic but didn't McDonalds coffee get voted better than Starbucks? I like Starbucks but only really in America for some reason!

Driveby Dogboy

Vuzuggu wrote: »

Don't want to go too far off topic but didn't McDonalds coffee get voted better than Starbucks?!

I was just going to say that

Gran Hermano

philthrill69 wrote: »

Please explain to me how me attacking this guys post like the admin suggested is moderating?

If you have a question related to modding, please PM the mod or take it to feedback.

readyletsgo

Vuzuggu wrote: »

Don't want to go too far off topic but didn't McDonalds coffee get voted better than Starbucks? I like Starbucks but only really in America for some reason!

Have to say, as for late night coffee in dublin, McDonalds coffee is really nice! Gives a lot of the best coffee in dublin a run for its money IMO.

Starbuck$, sorry, but terrible bucket water to me.

Lingua Franca

I don't think making a thread about a multinational fast food chain and then demanding that no one on a public forum say a critical word was the wisest of ideas.

Starbucks has free wifi and does the only edible vegan food (hummus, roasted med veg and flatbread wrap, delicious) I've ever encountered. Can I stay in the thread?

macgrub

Starbucks coffee is okay. I like their specialities but their regular black coffee lacks some flavour. That said, it certainly isn't the worst around. The stuff most Irish coffee shops serve is worse; it's a cup of hot black liquid, but you get loads in the cup! Quantity, not quality.

mordeith

Just what we need. Another multinational chain to make the place a carbon copy of every other city. There's a reasonable amount of decent individual coffee places in Cork IMO. Coffee Central in the English Market, Cafe Italee on Oliver Plunkett street. The Sugar Cube's coffee ain't bad either. Gloria Jeans is over priced muck though and you don't even get a proper mug, just a cardboard takeway job even if you're drinking inside (that's the one on Grand Parade anyway, not sure about the Patrick's street one).

eisenberg1

Homer wrote: »

You quite clearly need to go back to school as you can't read or are just ignorant. I'd bet on the latter.

I'd bet on the latte:P

macgrub

mordeith wrote: »

Just what we need. Another multinational chain to make the place a carbon copy of every other city. There's a reasonable amount of decent individual coffee places in Cork IMO. Coffee Central in the English Market, Cafe Italee on Oliver Plunkett street. The Sugar Cube's coffee ain't bad either. Gloria Jeans is over priced muck though and you don't even get a proper mug, just a cardboard takeway job even if you're drinking inside (that's the one on Grand Parade anyway, not sure about the Patrick's street one).

If they are good enough, they will survive. People who are particular about their coffee will still seek out the places that sell quality.
Despite the gazillion Starbucks around the city centre, there are plenty of Italian coffee shops still in Dublin.

Chazz Michael Michaels

mordeith wrote: »

Just what we need. Another multinational chain to make the place a carbon copy of every other city. There's a reasonable amount of decent individual coffee places in Cork IMO. Coffee Central in the English Market, Cafe Italee on Oliver Plunkett street. The Sugar Cube's coffee ain't bad either. Gloria Jeans is over priced muck though and you don't even get a proper mug, just a cardboard takeway job even if you're drinking inside (that's the one on Grand Parade anyway, not sure about the Patrick's street one).

Cork lacks a proper late night cafe. Cafe Eco doesn't fall under the term proper.

Irish Musician

philthrill69 wrote: »

And before any of the coffee snobs pipe up and say "Starbucks wouldn't know coffee if a boiling cup spilled in their laps"
Save it.

Cups don't boil,do they?

mordeith

Irish Musician wrote: »

Cups don't boil,do they?

You're not supposed to use boiling water to make coffee anyway

philthrill69

mordeith wrote: »

You're not supposed to use boiling water to make coffee anyway

Who mentioned water? :-)

Going Forward

philthrill69 wrote: »

So important you had to post it twice?
And if your comparison to McDonald's refers to both of them being muti billion dollar successful corporations then I agree.

Both are base and lack class.

Fail to see how this somehow puts Cork on the world map.

philthrill69

Going Forward wrote: »

Both are base and lack class.

Fail to see how this somehow puts Cork on the world map.

Both are base? I'm gonna have to get out my thesaurus to decipher that one.
As for you failing to see how this puts Cork on the world map, who even mentioned that.
I think you failed to read the whole thread properly.
How bout you stay on topic instead of trying to turn this into a Cork vs the rest of Ireland thread.

philthrill69

Gran Hermano wrote: »

If you have a question related to modding, please PM the mod or take it to feedback.

I did pm the mod to point out to them that they totally misread my post and I'm still waiting for a reply 5 hours later.

xabi

You seem to have posted in the wrong forum, this one is for coffee related stuff.

philthrill69

xabi wrote: »

You seem to have posted in the wrong forum, this one is for coffee related stuff.

Hilarious

Gokei

philthrill69 wrote: »

True, I'm saying for the last few years that Opera Lane would be a no brainer for Starbucks, even emailed them a few times suggesting it.
But I'm not complaining, Citygate is a lot closer than Kildare Village :-)

Are they not a franchise? If you see an opening, go for it.

Edit: it appears they aren't..

philthrill69

Gokei wrote: »

Are they not a franchise? If you see an opening, go for it.

Edit: it appears they aren't..

No they handle the opening of their stores very differently to the likes of McDonald's and KFC.
I think they have to choose where and then employ a manager.
Also wouldn't have franchise opening money under the mattress.

Dizzyblonde

philthrill69 wrote: »

How bout you stay on topic instead of trying to turn this into a Cork vs the rest of Ireland thread.

More backseat moderation. You will lose your posting rights in this forum if you're not careful. If you have a problem with a post, report it.

ongarboy

philthrill69 wrote: »

No they handle the opening of their stores very differently to the likes of McDonald's and KFC.
I think they have to choose where and then employ a manager.
Also wouldn't have franchise opening money under the mattress.

Yes, that's correct. They have a master franchisee for Ireland (called Entertainment Enterprises) that runs the Irish stores and hire staff for each outlet accordingly. (they also own the TGI Friday franchise for Ireland). They've opened up about 10 new cafes in Dublin in the last year alone. Now that they've set the precedent for Starbucks in "the provinces", we might start seeing more pop up. (I see Cork city centre, Limerick and Galway as next on their list).

Costa Coffee are way ahead in the expansion trail though with over 60 outlets compared to approx 30 with Starbucks (Costa have just or are about to open in Tralee, Galway, Longford, Coolock, Monaghan, Celbridge.

Jezek

I get that you like Starbucks, but why would you start by attacking the people that are not fans of it?

token101

adocholiday wrote: »

It's a pity that starbucks coffee is pure shíte!

It's actually really nice in the UK & Australia, but I had it in Dublin and was undrinkable.

kerry4sam

philthrill69 wrote: »

At long last Starbucks will open their doors in Cork next month, literally buzzing http://www.96fm.ie/News-Local-Info?ItemID=2223
And before any of the coffee snobs pipe up and say "Starbucks wouldn't know coffee if a boiling cup spilled in their laps"
Save it.

Ahem, Starbucks Coffee has been available in Cork for years, in UCC! Nice coffee; not as tasteful as Lir Cafe mind, but if you're stuck for a decent wake-me-up as I was on some early mornings/late evening study sessions during my years studying there, it was nice

thetoffeeman

where is it going? Too long a wait. Costa (which i also enjoy) got a good head start on them. Can't wait either. Pykes mmmm

lkionm

ongarboy wrote: »

Yes, that's correct. They have a master franchisee for Ireland (called Entertainment Enterprises) that runs the Irish stores and hire staff for each outlet accordingly. (they also own the TGI Friday franchise for Ireland). They've opened up about 10 new cafes in Dublin in the last year alone. Now that they've set the precedent for Starbucks in "the provinces", we might start seeing more pop up. (I see Cork city centre, Limerick and Galway as next on their list).

Costa Coffee are way ahead in the expansion trail though with over 60 outlets compared to approx 30 with Starbucks (Costa have just or are about to open in Tralee, Galway, Longford, Coolock, Monaghan, Celbridge.

Costa have been in Ireland for a lot longer and are very slow to do anything in HO.

Their standard of customer service is a lot like going to tesco and they have been cutting hours for years. Its not an enjoyable experience for a customer.

If starbucks do better service they will beat costa, they already have the name and people will go there instead of costa. A lot of people go to costa to feel more privileged for lack of a better word.

thetoffeeman

I use coffee shops for the social occasion, but you do need the staff to not be rude. Both costa and starbucks staff are only paid to be friendly, a kind of false friendly. I read the paper, or my book, if the news is all morbid. But I do like the professional way the coffee is made in both. I go to Liverpool quite often, you'd have a costa and starbucks right beside each other, not a bother. same amount of customers in both.

Mr Magnolia

The coffee is oily and burnt and the coffee is old.

If you enjoy the social aspect to any of these outlets I understand but if it's about the coffee you're doing it wrong.

hfallada

I worked with Italians and they cant understand why coffee has to be a small bucket of a watery black stuff in Ireland and so over priced. Italian coffee is superior to any American companies coffee. You are paying for the brand starbucks and nothing more. McDonalds is eating into Starbucks profits in the US, as Americans are getting decent affordable coffee from McDonalds.

Mr Magnolia

hfallada wrote: »

Italian coffee is superior to any American companies coffee.

This isn't true and the likes of stumptown and intelligentsia may have something to say about it.

hfallada

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

This isn't true and the likes of stumptown and intelligentsia may have something to say about it.

True but a decent bag of italian coffee is about €10-15 for a kg bag. Strumpton is that price, but for third of the coffee.

Slaphead07

hfallada wrote: »

True but a decent bag of italian coffee is about €10-15 for a kg bag.

where? I've seen stale conveyor belt coffee in supermarkets at that price but not what I'd call "decent" coffee.
Anyway your assertion that " Italian coffee is superior to any American companies coffee" is simply wrong.

Jezek

I'vee bought freshly roasted coffee in Italy but it was all upwards of 20 euro/kilo

philthrill69

The only place I can get a half decent cup of coffee in Cork since Starbucks closed in Cork Airport is Butlers, O'Chonaills and a van called golden bean that sets up at the Mahon farmers market. And as a few posters have already mentioned McDonald's have started getting it right as of late.
Costa always tastes burnt to me and any similarities between BB's beverages and coffee is purely coincidental.
Anyone come across an actual concrete date for next month's opening?

mandarin

Have you been to Cork Coffee Roasters on Bridge St? Great cafe, great coffee. Also, you an get 20 or so different coffees from Filter on Georges Quay (Golden Bean and Badger and Dodo coffees).

philthrill69

mandarin wrote: »

Have you been to Cork Coffee Roasters on Bridge St? Great cafe, great coffee. Also, you an get 20 or so different coffees from Filter on Georges Quay (Golden Bean and Badger and Dodo coffees).

No I haven't but I will definitely try them out the next time I'm in the city. Thanks.