Sew up your pockets

Hootanany

So that is what he thinks of us:mad:


Sorry if this has been done before.

I hate people like the person filming.

Quazzie

The man, however unlikable is only doing his job. Being harassed like that on the street isn't on, no matter who he is.

Tigger

Sew up your pockets ?

Khannie

Looks like someone being harassed on their way to work.

my friend

Every skanger is a camera operator now.

Time for some new legislation

my friend

my friend wrote: »

Every skanger is a camera operator now.

Time for some new legislation

I agree. If some wannabe journalist with a camera phone sticks it in your face, then you should be allowed to punch them without fear of retaliation.

Archeron

Thought this was going to be a follow up to "give up your auld sins"

Sunnyisland

my friend wrote: »

Every skanger is a camera operator now.

Time for some new legislation

How do you make that out

Ridiculous post.

amdublin

I watched the first 30 seconds. Couldn't bear anymore.

What makes that fella think it's okay to accost someone on their way to work and RECORD it and put it on the Internet????

amdublin

realies wrote: »

How do you make that out

Ridiculous post.

^^^

Ridiculous post.

funt cucker

Why are people so surprised by "sew up yer pockets"?

Days 298

Did the cameraman seriously expect him to stop and debate policy's with him when he was confrontational from the get go?

RTE give him favourable press so by that logic this guy was simple out to give him bad press?

Hootanany

But why did he say "sew up your pockets" ?

Tigger

I think its a
Expression that means sew yor pockets so the gov can't take your monies

amdublin

Hootanany wrote: »

But why did he say "sew up your pockets" ?

Personally I think it was a lighthearted comment like sew up your pockets so I can't get your money type of think.

I think he's kind of trying to say look I'm not the big bad wolf I'm just doing my job.

What do you think?

ted1

My faith in humanity is restored I expected all the left wing loonies to be all over this. However I feel quite good known that my fellow country men think the same as me in that these people who harass people on the street are extreme tossers.

Days 298

I thought he meant I'm out to get you personally in a sarcastic way by the sew up your pockets.

Lisha

The guy filming was wrong to do so. He accosted someone walking to work and was wrong to do so and post it in the net.

However Michael Noonan was wrong to reply 'sew up your pockets' as a first response. It is a smart nasty comment that Noonsn used to humiliate and silence the protester.

funt cucker

ted1 wrote: »

My faith in humanity is restored I expected all the left wing loonies to be all over this. However I feel quite good known that my fellow country men think the same as me in that these people who harass people on the street are extreme tossers.

Over the last 12 months, I have grown to despise these protesters. I know one or two personally and I don't think they know what they're protesting about any more. One person is constantly in Leinster street and when the person is not there, they're travelling the country to meet up with people and protest.

If they're not protesting, they're fighting with other protesters for more exposure . I don't see what the big deal is? We all knew it was going to be a tough budget, It's been reported that way for months now. Noonan telling us that is not a real shocker tbh.

Son Of A Vidic

Quazzie wrote: »

The man, however unlikable is only doing his job. Being harassed like that on the street isn't on, no matter who he is.

Ah don't worry about him. I'm sure his bloated salary compensates him nicely for suffering such discomforts.

have2flushtwice

i think fair play to the camera man. he is right in his comment that rte give favourable press. we all sit and moan about tax and the rest but this guy went and asked the questions with the intention of showing us the answers he got.
is it any different to other people leaving court for example, not guilty and the camera in their face? rte do this also, so keep your powder dry lads!

or we can do this:
lets all sit patently and wait for the minister to come onto the radio or tv and get scripted questions and deliver prepared answers.

i say well done to the camera man. he got more balls than the rest of the keyboard bandits.

funt cucker wrote: »

Over the last 12 months, I have grown to despise these protesters. I know one or two personally and I don't think they know what they're protesting about any more. One person is constantly in Leinster street and when the person is not there, they're travelling the country to meet up with people and protest.

If they're not protesting, they're fighting with other protesters for more exposure . I don't see what the big deal is? We all knew it was going to be a tough budget, It's been reported that way for months now. Noonan telling us that is not a real shocker tbh.

ted1

have2flushtwice wrote: »

i think fair play to the camera man. he is right in his comment that rte give favourable press. we all sit and moan about tax and the rest but this guy went and asked the questions with the intention of showing us the answers he got.
is it any different to other people leaving court for example, not guilty and the camera in their face? rte do this also, so keep your powder dry lads!

or we can do this:
lets all sit patently and wait for the minister to come onto the radio or tv and get scripted questions and deliver prepared answers.

i say well done to the camera man. he got more balls than the rest of the keyboard bandits.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say you don't work, especially in any a managerial position. Budgets are just that budgets , there away yo balance your expenditure against your income. The government income is vastly smaller than its expenditure so taxes have to be imposed.

I personally think not was a very fair budget.

The camera guy is a muppet simple as that.

funt cucker

have2flushtwice wrote: »

i think fair play to the camera man. he is right in his comment that rte give favourable press. we all sit and moan about tax and the rest but this guy went and asked the questions with the intention of showing us the answers he got.
is it any different to other people leaving court for example, not guilty and the camera in their face? rte do this also, so keep your powder dry lads!

or we can do this:
lets all sit patently and wait for the minister to come onto the radio or tv and get scripted questions and deliver prepared answers.

i say well done to the camera man. he got more balls than the rest of the keyboard bandits.

Most half decent Irish folk in trouble are out looking for work not protesting, it seems to have attracted the dregs of society recently, all hippies and arseholes that never worked a day in their lives at the front.

flutered

Tigger wrote: »

I think its a
Expression that means sew yor pockets so the gov can't take your monies

unfortunatly that wont work

flutered

Lisha wrote: »

The guy filming was wrong to do so. He accosted someone walking to work and was wrong to do so and post it in the net.

However Michael Noonan was wrong to reply 'sew up your pockets' as a first response. It is a smart nasty comment that Noonsn used to humiliate and silence the protester.

between that answer and howlin snapping his fingers for garda assistance, i get the impression of this goverments opinion of themselves.

have2flushtwice

flutered wrote: »

between that answer and howlin snapping his fingers for garda assistance, i get the impression of this goverments opinion of themselves.

well said.

ted1

funt cucker wrote: »

Most half decent Irish folk in trouble are out looking for work not protesting, it seems to have attracted the dregs of society recently, all hippies and arseholes that never worked a day in their lives at the front.

It's like the Corrib pipeline, they started off saying the route was to close to houses and that the pressure was to high. They wanted it redirected , then it got all about the money and other tangents. This is why no one cares about it as the protestors don't know what they even want.

Some people are do constructive things with their lives, others just bitch and moan

funt cucker

ted1 wrote: »

It's like the Corrib pipeline, they started off saying the route was to close to houses and that the pressure was to high. They wanted it redirected , then it got all about the money and other tangents. This is why no one cares about it as the protestors don't know what they even want.

Some people are do constructive things with their lives, others just bitch and moan

One of the people I mentioned has been protesting constantly for the last three years. This person gets the dole and rent allowance, why is this person not looking for work? because said person is now against "corporations" of any kind and will not work for fat cats in any kind of environment.

But will gladly take the dole, rent allowance, then go for a few scoops after the protest. Madness.

have2flushtwice

actually Ted i do work, and work hard like everyone else who is trying to keep things going.
i had to drop out of college because i couldn't afford it, into no mans land with no job. i had to start again at night like lots of others. what am i doing right now, studying, to keep the managers job i have and do it better, and keep a lot of people in jobs by learning the best way to keep the budget in balance. so hopefully that will address your flippant commentabout budgets.

what are you doing for the greater good of everyone- throwing digs at people like me who are willing to go against the grain. fair play to you big man.
some day i hope to be like you! NOT!

ted1 wrote: »

I'm going to hazard a guess and say you don't work, especially in any a managerial position. Budgets are just that budgets , there away yo balance your expenditure against your income. The government income is vastly smaller than its expenditure so taxes have to be imposed.

I personally think not was a very fair budget.

The camera guy is a muppet simple as that.

ted1

have2flushtwice wrote: »

actually Ted i do work, and work hard like everyone else who is trying to keep things going.
i had to drop out of college because i couldn't afford it, into no mans land with no job. i had to start again at night like lots of others. what am i doing right now, studying, to keep the managers job i have and do it better, and keep a lot of people in jobs by learning the best way to keep the budget in balance. so hopefully that will address your flippant commentabout budgets.

what are you doing for the greater good of everyone- throwing digs at people like me who are willing to go against the grain. fair play to you big man.
some day i hope to be like you! NOT!

How can you understand budgets and moan about taxes?
I got a job during college so was able to finish my course . I'm also at college during night to do my masters.

Hootanany

So you think Noonan off the cuff remark was Ok then?

Miss Lockhart

ted1 wrote: »

How can you understand budgets and moan about taxes?.

Plenty of economists worldwide manage it just fine. Sounds like you're as ignorant on the topic as those you are deriding.

I hate people who behave like the guy behind the camera but I also hate Noonan's smug, condescending attitude. One doesn't excuse the other.

have2flushtwice

ted1 wrote: »

How can you understand budgets and moan about taxes?
I got a job during college so was able to finish my course . I'm also at college during night to do my masters.

it is possible to understand budgets and moan about taxes!budget is about financial management. taxes are about us funding the budget. understand this, how much are we overspending in the hse? howmuch are we pumping into Dublin bus? should these and others be dealt with properly then the taxes may not be as severe.

i cant remember complaining about either though...

ted1

have2flushtwice wrote: »

it is possible to understand budgets and moan about taxes!budget is about financial management. taxes are about us funding the budget. understand this, how much are we overspending in the hse? howmuch are we pumping into Dublin bus? should these and others be dealt with properly then the taxes may not be as severe.

i cant remember complaining about either though...

There's a difference between moaning about taxes and giving alternative solutions. Without giving an alternative implies that you don't have an opinion and are just a moaner

have2flushtwice

ted1 wrote: »

How can you understand budgets and moan about taxes?
I got a job during college so was able to finish my course . I'm also at college during night to do my masters.

it is possible to understand budgets and moan about taxes!budget is about financial management. taxes are about us funding the budget. understand this, how much are we overspending in the hse? howmuch are we pumping into Dublin bus? should these and others be dealt with properly then the taxes may not be as severe.

i cant remember complaining about either though...

have2flushtwice

ted1 wrote: »

There's a difference between moaning about taxes and giving alternative solutions. Without giving an alternative implies that you don't have an opinion and are just a moaner

are you reading the post, two examples given.
never argue with and idiot. they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. where's my hat!

Miss Lockhart

ted1 wrote: »

There's a difference between moaning about taxes and giving alternative solutions. Without giving an alternative implies that you don't have an opinion and are just a moaner

There's a difference between saying you agree with taxes and think the budget is fair and explaining how they have been successful in dealing with budget deficits. Without giving that explanation implies you don't have an opinion and are just a government sycophant.

Makes about as much sense. Nitpicking and looking for an argument can work both ways.

You don't agree with protesters and that's fair enough but is there really a need for snide comments about employment status? Should we all have to prove our managerial experience to make a comment in AH?

FortuneChip

Hootanany wrote: »

So that is what he thinks of us:mad:

I really hope you're not using the cameraman to represent "Us" here

"Sew up your pockets" was clearly a joke. Jesus.

As for the cameraman, if he actually wanted to make a difference he'd get involved in politics. Jamming a camera in a man's face as he's trying to get down the street is harassment.

As for the "poor little Ronan" thing, that's despicable. If you oppose the things the government is cutting, try actually doing something constructive about it. Shouting at a man on the street as though he's personally out to get kids with Down's is pretty low, and if the cameraman ever did have a point, he lost all chance of getting it across with that comment.

Teyla Emmagan

Lisha wrote: »

The guy filming was wrong to do so. He accosted someone walking to work and was wrong to do so and post it in the net.

However Michael Noonan was wrong to reply 'sew up your pockets' as a first response. It is a smart nasty comment that Noonsn used to humiliate and silence the protester.

No it was just a quip. He was clearly trying to make a joke and move on. He had probably said the same thing a million times to every smart arse or heckler he met coming up to budget day. He can hardly stop and have an indepth chat about finance to the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker. There was nothing personal in it, he was just trying to get away from yet another tosser

Hootanany

But he is answerable to public and should not treat people with such contempt .

Days 298

Hootanany wrote: »

But he is answerable to public and should not treat people with such contempt .

He was being treated with contempt. What do you expect him to do?
Stop and allow the guy to tear into him. Do you think he'd rather not cut services or do you think he's doing it for the schadenfreude?

Hootanany

Hootanany wrote: »

But he is answerable to public and should not treat people with such contempt .

Being answerable to the public means getting letters, meetings, and on occasion organised public protests. There are appropriate ways to become involved in politics and to contact politicians.

He wasn't treating anyone with contempt, he was trying to walk down the street. It didn't help that the angry cameraman had absolutely nothing relevant to say. He didn't make any point at all, and he wasn't attempting to get answers. He just wanted to shout abuse at someone. Because it's easier to just grab your camera and try to humiliate someone and feel like a big man than actually get off your ass and try to make a real difference. Big man, shouting from the comfortable position of taking no responsibility himself.

Lapin

have2flushtwice wrote: »

i think fair play to the camera man. he is right in his comment that rte give favourable press. we all sit and moan about tax and the rest but this guy went and asked the questions with the intention of showing us the answers he got.
is it any different to other people leaving court for example, not guilty and the camera in their face? rte do this also, so keep your powder dry lads!

or we can do this:
lets all sit patently and wait for the minister to come onto the radio or tv and get scripted questions and deliver prepared answers.

i say well done to the camera man. he got more balls than the rest of the keyboard bandits.

Ministers Noonan and Howlin went on RTÉ radio the following morning and took unscripted questions from the public.

Lapin

Hootanany wrote: »

But he is answerable to public and should not treat people with such contempt .

He is indeed answerable to the public. Not some twit with a camera on the side of the road claiming to represent the public. (Thankfully he doesn't).
He was on his way to work where he answers to the public every day.

He responded to a joker with a joke. (A bad joke yes - but contempt, no).

I'm no fan of Noonan but I'd rather have him in finance than all of the previous 3 ministers combined, (Lenihan, Cowen & McCreevy).

Its because of their budgets that Noonan is forced to play the hand he has now.

The only thing this gobshíte wannabe Charlie Bird on the pavement will force Noonan to do is start using the state Mercs to get to work again.

Standard Toaster

Was he implying the camera-phone man was a pick pocket type 'character' from his accent? (eg scummer)

He only said that as soon as he opened his mouth?
Can't say I ever heard of that expression before.

Standard Toaster

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Was he implying the camera-phone man was a pick pocket type 'character' from his accent? (eg scummer).

No. The guy says something along the lines of "so how are you going to screw the Irish people today?" and he says "sew up your pockets", and then tries to laugh off the camera guy as best he can. It was a joke. It means sew up your pockets so I can't screw money out of you, which was what he was being accused of.

Standard Toaster

true-or-false wrote: »

No. The guy says something along the lines of "so how are you going to screw the Irish people today?" and he says "sew up your pockets", and then tries to laugh off the camera guy as best he can. It was a joke. It means sew up your pockets so I can't screw money out of you, which was what he was being accused of.

Ah ok then. A sh1t joke so.

Hootanany

Lapin wrote: »

He is indeed answerable to the public. Not some twit with a camera on the side of the road claiming to represent the public. (Thankfully he doesn't).
He was on his way to work where he answers to the public every day.

He responded to a joker with a joke. (A bad joke yes - but contempt, no).

I'm no fan of Noonan but I'd rather have him in finance than all of the previous 3 ministers combined, (Lenihan, Cowen & McCreevy).

Its because of their budgets that Noonan is forced to play the hand he has now.

The only thing this gobshíte wannabe Charlie Bird on the pavement will force Noonan to do is start using the state Mercs to get to work again.

You have a short memory google Hepititus scandal and Vat on children's shoes will show you his form.

Lapin

Hootanany wrote: »

You have a short memory google Hepititus scandal and Vat on children's shoes will show you his form.

What a way to through a topic way off course and take it out of all context.

I don't need to Google them. I remember both cases very well.

Don't see what either has to do with last weeks budget though.

Neither does the pavement interviewer apparentely as he never mentioned them either.