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    #92
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    rofl - just get lost already...
    preferred it the way it was the first time ;)


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    #93
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    pharmaton wrote: »
    preferred it the way it was the first time ;)

    Yeah, but knowing some people here that'd get me yet another infraction... :rolleyes:


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    #94
    pharmaton
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    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Yeah, but knowing some people here that'd get me yet another infraction... :rolleyes:

    true dat.

    anyways. I love animals I do.


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    #95
    OldNotWIse
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Is it time to ban pets as they use up dwindling resources?and how do pet owners justify spending money on a pet when it could go to the needy?

    Um...maybe because they are our pets and its our money and therefore we dont actually need to justify the spend?


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    #96
    Jester252
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    This thread is a perfect reason why pets are better than people.


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    #97
    OldNotWIse
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    Gee Bag wrote: »
    You want to make the needy eat pedigree chum?

    Surely not, let them eat cakes instead.


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    #98
    kneemos
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    If you all lovecuour pets so much why are so many of them kept in cages.


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    #99
    Pumpkinseeds
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    Could we not just feed the needy to our pets? Sure a high protein diet would be ideal for most carnivorous pets:D





    *I'll just leave quietly now


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    #100
    pharmaton
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    kneemos wrote: »
    If you all lovecuour pets so much why are so many of them kept in cages.
    when I leave my rare white tibetan tiger out of it's cage it tends to eat people.


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    #101
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    "People are choosing to do things which I would not choose to do, therefore they must be crazy, or stupid, or both".

    The problem is not people owning pets, the problem is people thinking they have any right to decide what is the right way for anyone else to live.
    Could we just not feed the needy to our pets? Sure a high protein diet would be ideal for most carnivorous pets
    It would certainly solve our social issues faster than wasting money by throwing it at the needy.


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    #102
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    If you are so great what is the stars


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    #103
    shruikan2553
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    kneemos wrote: »
    If you all lovecuour pets so much why are so many of them kept in cages.

    Letting a hamster roam around the house is probably not the safest way to keep one. My fish gets annoyed when I take him out of his tank.


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    #104
    DamagedTrax
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    kneemos wrote: »
    If you all lovecuour pets so much why are so many of them kept in cages.

    a dogs natural instinct is to den. my girl has an open doored crate (not cage) that is covered in blankets for darkness and privacy. she can go into it or leave as she pleases. it pleases her to go in and chill out of her own free will.


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    #105
    Frank Black
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    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    out of interest, taking away the household pet scenario. do you actually like animals?

    Oh, yes. I'm very partial to a medium-rare steak.

    Especially in the company of another human at a nice restaurant.


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    #106
    DamagedTrax
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    Frank Black wrote: »
    Oh, yes. I'm very partial to a medium-rare steak.

    you do realise that not all animal lovers are vegetarian or vegan? i love a steak too so thats a pointless trolling attempt.

    .. and i'd eat a dog too if it came down to survival.


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    #107
    westies4ever
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Is it time to ban pets children as they use up dwindling resources?and how do pet owners parents justify spending money on a pet child when it could go to the needy?

    fixed that for you :P


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    #108
    eisenberg1
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    Gee Bag wrote: »
    You want to make the needy eat pedigree chum?

    I would not inflict that ****e on my dogs:cool:


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    #109
    kneemos
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    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    Letting a hamster roam around the house is probably not the safest way to keep one. My fish gets annoyed when I take him out of his tank.

    Both unnatural environments.


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    #110
    OldNotWIse
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    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    you do realise that not all animal lovers are vegetarian or vegan? i love a steak too so thats a pointless trolling attempt.

    Indeed. Nothing wrong with ethically sourced meat once or twice a week. That's how we are designed. I'm hardly going to eat my dog... We'll leave that to the, you know...


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    #111
    seamus
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Both unnatural environments.
    Just like a house is an unnatural environment?


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    #112
    Bannasidhe
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Both unnatural environments.

    Yeah - all of that double/triple glazing, concrete, foam insulation malarky is horribly unnatural and should be banned.

    Caves or wattle and daub houses from now on for everyone.


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    #113
    OldNotWIse
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    westies4ever wrote: »
    fixed that for you :P

    Yes...and dont forget how much we'd be able to give to the needy if we weren't claiming monthly pet's allowance too...oh wait...:rolleyes:


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    #114
    DamagedTrax
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »

    Caves or wattle and daub houses from now on for everyone.

    :eek: jeez, caves? arent you a bit fancy...


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    #115
    Bannasidhe
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    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    :eek: jeez, caves? arent you a bit fancy...

    Wattle and daub looks pretty drafty to me. Hate drafts - they give me shocking ear aches. I reckon the back of a deep cave would be the best option for me.

    And the four dogs. :P


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    #116
    BeerWolf
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Caves or wattle and daub houses from now on for everyone.

    Picture 1

    Picture 2

    Picture 3

    Caves be fine with me!


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    #117
    kneemos
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    seamus wrote: »
    Just like a house is an unnatural environment?

    A house is perfectly natural.It's a modern cave.
    A fish is used to much more open space than a tank and a hamster likes to run about and burrow and in both cases interact with its environment and other animal's.


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    #118
    eisenberg1
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Yes...and dont forget how much we'd be able to give to the needy if we weren't claiming monthly pet's allowance too...oh wait...:rolleyes:

    And another cost to Joe Public is the medical card for my dog...


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    #119
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,415 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    seamus wrote: »
    Just like a house is an unnatural environment?

    A house is perfectly natural.It's a modern cave.
    A fish is used to much more open space than a tank and a hamster likes to run about and burrow and in both cases interact with its environment and other animal's.


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    #120
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    kneemos wrote: »
    A house is perfectly natural.It's a modern cave.
    A fish is used to much more open space than a tank and a hamster likes to run about and burrow and in both cases interact with its environment and other animal's.

    So are you against farming animals?


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    #121
    Artful_Badger
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    Tiddlypeeps wrote: »
    As I mentioned already your logic does not follow.

    Creating a market demand for something that can feasibly be produced in a moral fashion is not in itself an immoral act.

    As I mentioned already if your logic did follow it would make pretty much everything we do immoral.

    Everything we consume creates a demand and often those demands are met by means that could be considered immoral. Slave and child labour in asian countries, mass productions of animals for meat in factories, drugs (legal and illegal) result in all sorts of activities that are questionable at best. All anybody can do is avoid the bad where they know it is happening.

    Owning a pet is almost always unnecessary, I won't argue with that, but so is almost everything we do. So unless you live in a self sustained farm out in the middle of nowhere where you don't interact with the rest of the world I don't think you are in a position to preach.

    I'm not sure where we differ here yet you seem adamant I'm preaching while holding a poorly thought out view.

    You acknowledge that a lot can be considered immoral. All I ever said was that it was immoral. You acknowledge that all anyone can do is avoid these things when they can if they are aware of it. I'm not proposing anything else.


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