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Danny Morrision-Stormount could collapse.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    COYW wrote: »
    Really, that whole SPAD bill preventing them from giving their terrorist cronies highly paid public sector jobs might suggest otherwise.
    these people were released under the GFA and recognised as Political prisoners (not "terrorists"). They haven't committed any crimes since they were released so they are fully entitled to gain employment within politics if they are suitably qualified.
    Why wait 15 years to pass a bill on it? maybe it has something to do with Belast city hall, the parades and loyalist rioting. The unionists obviously saw this as an opportunity to get what they think is one over on republicans, this bill was rejected not only by Sinn Fein but the Greens and the Alliance Party and the bill would have been defeated overall if the SDLP hadn't wanted to engage with point scoring over Sinn Fein due to the fact the SDLP are fading into obscurity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Hannibal wrote: »

    Below is a link to an independent poll called "The Peoples Refendum" which was held in South Armagh on May 25th this year. The poll showed 93% of people in FAVOUR of unity.

    So you take a look at this independent poll on a UI in NI and you will see that people said 'Yes' with a huge majority.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/column-our-grassroots-initiative-shows-high-demand-for-a-border-poll-927617-May2013/

    In fairness Crossmaglen is a fiercely Republican village. The opinion of a thousand people in South Armagh doesn't reflect the views of the Six Counties as a whole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    FTA69 wrote: »
    In fairness Crossmaglen is a fiercely Republican village. The opinion of a thousand people in South Armagh doesn't reflect the views of the Six Counties as a whole.
    i'm well aware of that but the other poster said "take a look at any independent poll" so I showed that one as example. The reality is any towns or areas close to the border including Newry, Derry, Strabane and Enniskillen would produce a similar majority vote but obviously not 93%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Hannibal wrote: »
    i'm well aware of that but the other poster said "take a look at any independent poll" so I showed that one as example. The reality is any towns or areas close to the border including Newry, Derry, Strabane and Enniskillen would produce a similar majority vote but obviously not 93%

    Calling a poll an independent poll doesn't make it accurate or independent.

    If there was an independent poll of 1,000 people entering the doors of the Sinn Fein Ard Feis, you would probably get around 94% in favour of unity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    Godge wrote: »
    Calling a poll an independent poll doesn't make it accurate or independent.

    If there was an independent poll of 1,000 people entering the doors of the Sinn Fein Ard Feis, you would probably get around 94% in favour of unity.
    That particular poll was a mock referendum, it was independent and it was accurate in the area in which it was held. Although the area is a strong republican area and the result predictable their voice is still entitled to be heard.

    To be honest if you held a poll entering a Sinn Fein Ard Fheis it would be a fair bit higher than 94%


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  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Manassas61


    There is over 1 and a half million people in Northern Ireland. Could be 2 million before any such border poll happens. It's what the overall majority think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    [QUOTE=Manassas61;86891624]Peace process is fine. A shrine is just not needed. I am glad the project is gone.[/QUOTE]

    I dont think you have a clue about what the Hunger Strikes mean to a large proportion of the NI population (actually Unicorns included but we will get into the whys and hows of that later); you go to the measum in Enniskillen in the old castle and you can just see the basis towards the "British" side. Destroying that wing wont be seen as stopping a "shrine"- it will be seen as trying to wipe out a major part of the history of Northern Ireland because it belongs to the other "tribe".

    The fact is that Unionists are completely freaked out by the Hunger Strikes both because deep down they realize that the measures that led to them they supported and so they themselves prolonged the troubles and have blood on their hands because of that. Than there is the fact that the Hunger Strikers showed tremendous moral purpose and proved by their will power that they were not just common or garden murderers.

    We have never had a real peace process in Northern Ireland. The complete failure of so many Republicans to get inside Unionist shoes and really start persuading the many, many unionists who are not bad people at all speaks to that- as those your own failure to in any try to see things from the point of view of the Catholic population.

    This might surprise you but I am very annoyed by this commemoration of the Shankhill Road bomber.


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