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National Hill Climb Champs Tralee 6/10/2013

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    #32
    el tel
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    At least one club in Ulster that I know of uses chip timing for most if its club tts and road races. The timing service is outsourced.

    Anyway, not taking anything away from the result of the national hill climb. Of course with human error in the timing, the true time gap can be bigger as well as smaller.


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    #33
    nilhg
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    el tel wrote: »
    Just wondering, does a national event like this have chip timing?

    diff between 1st and 2nd was 0.7 sec according to sticky bottle. I've done time keeper for tt events and by eyeball and stopwatch the marging for error in the timing is huge, certainly within the realm of seconds, at least when I wasdoing it!
    Morrisseeee wrote: »
    Yikes, 0.7sec, you could argue that human error could have decided the outcome ! (note: I'm not saying they got it wrong, just amazed how close it was )

    0.7sec is 10 lengths in a greyhound race, in my misspent youth I'd have been very pi**ed off if I was more than a length out and we'd be doing splits as well.

    If the timekeepers are experienced and know their equipment then I'd be fairly certain they got it right.


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    #34
    dedocdude
    Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭dedocdude


    Morrisseeee wrote: »
    Yikes, 0.7sec, you could argue that human error could have decided the outcome ! (note: I'm not saying they got it wrong, just amazed how close it was )

    Could be wrong the other way too if u get me, say over a second?


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    #35
    G200
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭G200


    For the record, final times:

    National Hill Climb Championships 2013
    No. Name Cat. Vets Actual Ride Time CI Result Class Results
    41 Mark Dowling (Polygon Sweet Nice) A1 12:02.30 NHCC 1st A1 - 1st
    48 Ryan Sherlock (Cycleways CC / PSN) A1 12:03.04 NHCC 2nd A1 - 2nd
    46 Danny Bruton (Nicolas Roche Performance Team) Junior 12:27.47 NHCC 3rd Junior - 1st
    36 Matt Slattery (Killarney CC) A1 12:35.30 A1 - 3rd
    32 Denis Lynch (Sliabh Luachra CC) A2 12:37.57 A2 - 1st
    37 James Davenport (South Dublin CC) A1 12:44.48
    47 Greg Swinand (Usher IRC) A1 o/40 12:51.54 o/40 - 1st
    44 Eoin Morton (UCD CC) A1 12:56.09
    25 George Doyle (Tralee BC) A3 13:25.84 A3 - 1st
    45 Brian McArdle (DTC Orwell Wheelers) A1 13:39.06
    38 John Mannix (Killarney CC) A1 13:46.04
    14 Paul O'Reilly (Fixx Rouleurs) A4 13:50.81 A4 - 1st
    35 John O'Connell (Blarney CC) A2 14:07.84 A2 - 2nd
    8 Simon Duggan (Aqua Blue) A4 14:12.67 A4 - 2nd
    31 Martin Vereker (St. Tiernans CC) A3 14:13.66 A3 - 2nd
    2 Sam McAllister (Bray Wheelers) Junior 14:16.59 Junior - 2nd
    24 Ger Healy (Deenside Wheelers) A3 14:16.78 A3 - 3rd
    29 David Swift (Orwell Wheelers CC) A3 14:19.60
    34 Melanie Späth (Team Tibco) A2 14:24.11 Womens - 1st
    33 Marcus Flavin (Dungarvan CC) A2 14:24.97 A2 - 3rd
    21 Michéal O'Shea (Killorglin CC) A4 14:36.78 A4 - 3rd
    43 Kevin Culhane (Gas Pipes Touring Club) A3 14:44.60
    28 Jerry McCarthy (Tralee BC) A3 o/40 14:49.09 o/40 - 2nd
    39 Rory Wyley (Iverk Produce Carrick Wheelers CC) A1 o/40 14:55.78 o/40 - 3rd
    26 Barry Murphy (Wexford Wheelers) A3 o/40 14:56.40
    30 James Kelly (Marble City Cyclers) A3 15:01.70
    10 Marcus Finn (O'Leary Stone Kanturk) A4 o/40 15:12.20
    16 Paul English (Bohermeen CC) A4 o/40 15:18.39
    1 Cormac Daly (Tralee BC) Junior 15:23.20 Junior - 3rd
    42 Mikey Moriarty (Tralee CC) Junior 15:33.59
    15 Stephen O'Shea (Tralee CC) A4 15:36.32
    13 Nigel Allen (Wexford Wheelers) A4 o/40 15:41.63
    17 Tom Barrett (Currow CC) A4 o/50 15:52.42 o/50 - 1st
    18 John Kelly (Tralee CC) A4 16:08.88
    20 Paul Gammell (Southside Wheely Wheelers CC) A4 o/50 16:37.94 o/50 - 2nd
    11 Claire McEntee (Bray Wheelers) A4 16:53.46
    9 Sean Cooke (Tralee CC) A4 17:22.84
    12 Robert McCarthy (Tralee CC) A4 17:34.54
    23 Peter Landy (Tralee CC) A4 o/50 17:54.43 o/50 - 3rd
    5 William McCarthy (Southside Wheely Wheelers CC) A4 0/40 18:30.99
    3 Trix Schwedler A4 para 33:55.94
    4 Thomas Duggan (Comeragh CC) A4 DNS
    6 Seamus Nolan (Orwell Wheelers) A4 DNS
    7 Alan Dee (Desmond Sportive CC) A4 o/40 DNS
    19 Seamus Sexton (Newcastlewest CC) A4 DNS
    22 Shane O'Keeffe (Sliabh Luachra CC) A4 DNS
    27 Geraldine Gill (Bohermeen CC) A3 DNS
    40 Dylan Foley (Nicolas Roche Performance Team) Junior DNS


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    #36
    flatface
    Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭flatface


    Great climbing, well done to all. My strava position just plummeted :(


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    #37
    samzehh
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭samzehh


    Any photos besides the ones listed on website? I'd say the were at least 10 photographers (with DSLRs) on the hill !


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    #38
    G200
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    One for the data junkies:

    http://raceshape.com/strava-segments/2321580?rides=1808605166|87363413-1806193831|87260468-1805945892|87251331-1806686412|87280257-1808143902|87346433-1808427458|87357044-1806415027|87269756-1807506165|87316771-1813655765|87515900


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    #39
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭buffalo


    G200 wrote: »
    One for the data junkies:

    http://raceshape.com/strava-segments/2321580?rides=1808605166|87363413-1806193831|87260468-1805945892|87251331-1806686412|87280257-1808143902|87346433-1808427458|87357044-1806415027|87269756-1807506165|87316771-1813655765|87515900

    Dammit! Knew I went out too hard... if only the race was 500m long, I might've won!


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    #40
    D3PO
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    nilhg wrote: »
    0.7sec is 10 lengths in a greyhound race, in my misspent youth I'd have been very pi**ed off if I was more than a length out and we'd be doing splits as well.

    If the timekeepers are experienced and know their equipment then I'd be fairly certain they got it right.

    tbh a comparison with greyhounds is ridiculous unless they were running 2.4 miles up a hill at a smidge under 20km/h

    FWIW with the times posted the gap would still be approx. 4.01 meters so unlikely the timekeepers would be that far out.


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    #41
    Raam
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    Woot, still third!


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    #42
    ryan_sherlock
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    buffalo wrote: »
    Dammit! Knew I went out too hard... if only the race was 500m long, I might've won!

    Given the wind, and steep final 1.2k I had a rough pacing plan. Basically 48:52% power spending.

    It went like this:
    Get up to speed, then back way back off on power until I see a rolling average around 445-455W. Keep at that for the first few minutes. Then on the 'flat bit', try to keep the power up around 440. 1.2k to go (you hit that ramp), all out to the finish. Last 5 minutes was close to 500w so I paced it very well considering the conditions and gradient.

    Couldn't have done many things better on the day - my problem (the .7 seconds - probably more like giving away 20) was eating too much tasty food in Belgium when I was racing there. I put on a chunk of muscle mass (which helps), but also BF (yikes) and didn't lean down enough when I got home. I think I was giving up around 15-17kg to Mark! Now - if the race was up AND down the hill ;)


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    #43
    on_the_nickel
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    G200 wrote: »
    For the record, final times:

    National Hill Climb Championships 2013
    No. Name Cat. Vets Actual Ride Time CI Result Class Results
    41 Mark Dowling (Polygon Sweet Nice) A1 12:02.30 NHCC 1st A1 - 1st
    48 Ryan Sherlock (Cycleways CC / PSN) A1 12:03.04 NHCC 2nd A1 - 2nd
    46 Danny Bruton (Nicolas Roche Performance Team) Junior 12:27.47 NHCC 3rd Junior - 1st
    36 Matt Slattery (Killarney CC) A1 12:35.30 A1 - 3rd
    32 Denis Lynch (Sliabh Luachra CC) A2 12:37.57 A2 - 1st
    37 James Davenport (South Dublin CC) A1 12:44.48
    47 Greg Swinand (Usher IRC) A1 o/40 12:51.54 o/40 - 1st
    44 Eoin Morton (UCD CC) A1 12:56.09
    25 George Doyle (Tralee BC) A3 13:25.84 A3 - 1st
    45 Brian McArdle (DTC Orwell Wheelers) A1 13:39.06
    38 John Mannix (Killarney CC) A1 13:46.04
    14 Paul O'Reilly (Fixx Rouleurs) A4 13:50.81 A4 - 1st
    35 John O'Connell (Blarney CC) A2 14:07.84 A2 - 2nd
    8 Simon Duggan (Aqua Blue) A4 14:12.67 A4 - 2nd
    31 Martin Vereker (St. Tiernans CC) A3 14:13.66 A3 - 2nd
    2 Sam McAllister (Bray Wheelers) Junior 14:16.59 Junior - 2nd
    24 Ger Healy (Deenside Wheelers) A3 14:16.78 A3 - 3rd
    29 David Swift (Orwell Wheelers CC) A3 14:19.60
    34 Melanie Späth (Team Tibco) A2 14:24.11 Womens - 1st
    33 Marcus Flavin (Dungarvan CC) A2 14:24.97 A2 - 3rd
    21 Michéal O'Shea (Killorglin CC) A4 14:36.78 A4 - 3rd
    43 Kevin Culhane (Gas Pipes Touring Club) A3 14:44.60
    28 Jerry McCarthy (Tralee BC) A3 o/40 14:49.09 o/40 - 2nd
    39 Rory Wyley (Iverk Produce Carrick Wheelers CC) A1 o/40 14:55.78 o/40 - 3rd
    26 Barry Murphy (Wexford Wheelers) A3 o/40 14:56.40
    30 James Kelly (Marble City Cyclers) A3 15:01.70
    10 Marcus Finn (O'Leary Stone Kanturk) A4 o/40 15:12.20
    16 Paul English (Bohermeen CC) A4 o/40 15:18.39
    1 Cormac Daly (Tralee BC) Junior 15:23.20 Junior - 3rd
    42 Mikey Moriarty (Tralee CC) Junior 15:33.59
    15 Stephen O'Shea (Tralee CC) A4 15:36.32
    13 Nigel Allen (Wexford Wheelers) A4 o/40 15:41.63
    17 Tom Barrett (Currow CC) A4 o/50 15:52.42 o/50 - 1st
    18 John Kelly (Tralee CC) A4 16:08.88
    20 Paul Gammell (Southside Wheely Wheelers CC) A4 o/50 16:37.94 o/50 - 2nd
    11 Claire McEntee (Bray Wheelers) A4 16:53.46
    9 Sean Cooke (Tralee CC) A4 17:22.84
    12 Robert McCarthy (Tralee CC) A4 17:34.54
    23 Peter Landy (Tralee CC) A4 o/50 17:54.43 o/50 - 3rd
    5 William McCarthy (Southside Wheely Wheelers CC) A4 0/40 18:30.99
    3 Trix Schwedler A4 para 33:55.94
    4 Thomas Duggan (Comeragh CC) A4 DNS
    6 Seamus Nolan (Orwell Wheelers) A4 DNS
    7 Alan Dee (Desmond Sportive CC) A4 o/40 DNS
    19 Seamus Sexton (Newcastlewest CC) A4 DNS
    22 Shane O'Keeffe (Sliabh Luachra CC) A4 DNS
    27 Geraldine Gill (Bohermeen CC) A3 DNS
    40 Dylan Foley (Nicolas Roche Performance Team) Junior DNS

    Hmm, puts the time I did on a sh!tty, misty, hungover Paddy's Day morning into perspective. Next year....!


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    #44
    G200
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭G200


    ryan_sherlock wrote: »
    Given the wind, and steep final 1.2k I had a rough pacing plan. Basically 48:52% power spending.

    It went like this:
    Get up to speed, then back way back off on power until I see a rolling average around 445-455W. Keep at that for the first few minutes. Then on the 'flat bit', try to keep the power up around 440. 1.2k to go (you hit that ramp), all out to the finish. Last 5 minutes was close to 500w so I paced it very well considering the conditions and gradient.

    Couldn't have done many things better on the day - my problem (the .7 seconds - probably more like giving away 20) was eating too much tasty food in Belgium when I was racing there. I put on a chunk of muscle mass (which helps), but also BF (yikes) and didn't lean down enough when I got home. I think I was giving up around 15-17kg to Mark! Now - if the race was up AND down the hill ;)

    You paced it pretty perfectly. Your experience from 2010 must have been a big plus there. A lot of the lads who didn't know the hill defo went out too hard. It really punishes you in the final km if you have burned all your matches by the time you hit it.

    That is some weight difference between yourself and Mark on the day. A couple of Kgs lighter would have swung it your way no doubt. Still 464w AP vs 429w in 2010 is a positive.


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    #45
    flat6
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭flat6


    Hi all, looking for pictures of my son Sam on the hill - he was rider #2 (Bray Wheelers) and he was the first rider to crest.

    Could only find shots of later riders.

    Thanks!

    Warren


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