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Replacing GB pipe.

  • 24-09-2013 12:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys,

    I am replacing some gun barrel pipe in order to fit a new rad.

    Im having trouble untreading the old pipe from the elbow.

    I expected it would be stubborn but im getting nowhere.

    I have attached a pick.

    would it help if i heated it?

    Any advice please.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭gifted


    yes but only if you have oxy/ace torch, turbo torch won't tickle it. Aim oxy/ace at the elbow itself, this makes it expand a touch thus allowing the pipe to screwout easier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    sully123 wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    I am replacing some gun barrel pipe in order to fit a new rad.

    Im having trouble untreading the old pipe from the elbow.

    I expected it would be stubborn but im getting nowhere.

    I have attached a pick.

    would it help if i heated it?

    Any advice please.

    A big stilson spanner/rench is best, 1/2" should be easy.
    Blow torch on the elbow will help expand it.
    BUT RISKY !
    Timber burns, so do houses, your call.

    Avoid blow torch if I were you.

    There is a good reason that registered plumbers have public liabilty insurance of over €6,500,000 !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭gifted


    Stupid question but the pipe your trying to unscrew is not connected to another fitting is it? Just looks like the pipe is slightly out of shape where you put the wrench on it which means a lot of effort and as scudo pointed out, it's only half inch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭sully123


    gifted wrote: »
    Stupid question but the pipe your trying to unscrew is not connected to another fitting is it? Just looks like the pipe is slightly out of shape where you put the wrench on it which means a lot of effort and as scudo pointed out, it's only half inch.

    Well you half right it was, but i took the grinder to it to free it from the other side.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    18" stilson. Only job


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    18" stilson. Only job

    36" is better !



    Hope I haven't started a debate again, sorry !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    scudo2 wrote: »
    36" is better !



    Hope I haven't started a debate again, sorry !

    A kg of c4 would separate them too but like the 36" its abit much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭jimf


    a mans gotta use what a mans gotto use I suppose id b a right candidate for 1 of oikster warnings if I said 24" should do he he


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭oikster


    Stilsons are for wimps............get yourself a 3' chain wrench minimum............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭jimf


    oikster wrote: »
    Stilsons are for wimps............get yourself a 3' chain wrench minimum............


    oh jaysus here we go again every thread on here recently goes this way ????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    oikster wrote: »
    Stilsons are for wimps............get yourself a 3' chain wrench minimum............

    Is he abusing you Jim :rolleyes: or just slating you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭jimf


    Is he abusing you Jim :rolleyes: or just slating you :D


    im not sure I know the difference billy but my feelings are hurt again I don't know how much more of this I can take 5/6 years at the most


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    oikster wrote: »
    Stilsons are for wimps............get yourself a 3' chain wrench minimum............

    36" is better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭jimf


    scudo2 wrote: »
    Which is better 36" or 3'
    I'm starting to get mad now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    maybe the 36" and shur why not get 5ft of 2" gb as well for a bit more leverage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    jimf wrote: »
    maybe the 36" and shur why not get 5ft of 2" gb as well for a bit more leverage

    Now lads go easy it's only a bit of 1/2in
    Just get your footprints


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭sully123


    Ok lads,

    thanks so much for the advice.
    it was a bit stubborn but it came off in the end.

    Opted not to use the torch, 'cos i dont have one.

    Oh, and used the 18"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭jimf


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    18" stilson. Only job


    take a bow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    sully123 wrote: »
    Ok lads,

    thanks so much for the advice.
    it was a bit stubborn but it came off in the end.

    Opted not to use the torch, 'cos i dont have one.

    Oh, and used the 18"


    36" was still better advice than 18"



    Anyway, best of look with your job. You know where we are if you need more help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭jimf


    scudo2 wrote: »
    36" was still better advice than 18"



    Anyway, best of look with your job. You know where we are if you need more help.


    I will second that were always here when you need advice on totally oversizing tools for the job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Now lads go easy it's only a bit of 1/2in
    Just get your footprints

    My favourite tool. Dear though
    jimf wrote: »
    take a bow

    Yes I am a god of advising people when they need a 18"s instead of a 14"s


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    My favourite tool. Dear though



    Yes I am a god of advising people when they need a 18"s instead of a 14"s

    For the sake of peace and harmony, I won't reply. oops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    Keep meaning to get a footprint had one years ago great for holding rad valves.

    Still you wouldent bate a alu ridgit (spell) I've yet to see a lad get up from a slap from one..
    Haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    esox28 wrote: »
    Keep meaning to get a footprint had one years ago great for holding rad valves.

    Still you wouldent bate a alu ridgit (spell) I've yet to see a lad get up from a slap from one..
    Haha

    Now there dear. We used to use the alu 3 foots. I was amazed at the price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    esox28 wrote: »
    Keep meaning to get a footprint

    Just lost mine today:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    sullzz wrote: »
    Just lost mine today:mad:
    jazeus that gas I just found one must be me lucky day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    esox28 wrote: »
    jazeus that gas I just found one must be me lucky day.

    I want it back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    esox28 wrote: »
    Keep meaning to get a footprint had one years ago great for holding rad valves.

    Still you wouldent bate a alu ridgit (spell) I've yet to see a lad get up from a slap from one..
    Haha

    What the hell is a footprint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    What the hell is a footprint?

    http://www.mad4tools.com/footprint-thumbturn-pipe-wrench-various-sizes-9939-p.asp

    Left mine in a service shaft today changing a syphon , it's a building where you need to make an appointment to get access to and get security clearance , it took me a week to get access to change the syphon , I can say goodbye to that:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    I actually still have and use my 18" and 9" Footprint "Grips" that were issued to me in my Apprentice tool kit back 35yr ago. Don't think you'll get better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭gifted


    still have my 18" and 9" one as well, over 22 years old, wouldn't use it on rad valves though, would have got the head shouted off me by the chaps I served my time with for marking the chrome on the valves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    gifted wrote: »
    still have my 18" and 9" one as well, over 22 years old, wouldn't use it on rad valves though, would have got the head shouted off me by the chaps I served my time with for marking the chrome on the valves
    only if your heavy handed, some lads will mark valves no matter what they use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    gifted wrote: »
    still have my 18" and 9" one as well, over 22 years old, wouldn't use it on rad valves though, would have got the head shouted off me by the chaps I served my time with for marking the chrome on the valves

    We were always taught never to use Grips (Footprints) on brass, soft metal and all that, Rads were always the good ol Bahco spanner, still have my original pair of those. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭gifted


    We were always taught never to use Grips (Footprints) on brass, soft metal and all that, Rads were always the good ol Bahco spanner, still have my original pair of those. :eek:

    Adjustable spanner for brass and chrome, wouldn't use 18" stillson on 1/2" or 3/4" GB either, quite easy to collapse the pipe wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    esox28 wrote: »

    Ah that yoke. Used to have one. Actually hated it. Threw it out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Ah that yoke. Used to have one. Actually hated it. Threw it out.
    :eek::(:mad::rolleyes::confused::o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    sullzz wrote: »
    :eek::(:mad::rolleyes::confused::o

    I'd liken it to a vice grips..... Something I'd never have in my tool box!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I'd liken it to a vice grips..... Something I'd never have in my tool box!!

    Mine fell out of the bed one night !

    I love it !

    Never let me down no matter how badly I treat it. !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Ah that yoke. Used to have one. Actually hated it. Threw it out.

    Some lads just can't get to grips with tool that require adjustment ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I'd liken it to a vice grips..... Something I'd never have in my tool box!!

    WTF. are you missing a few spanners or what ?






    Only kidding of cource. I never started a row, u know that !!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Feckin he'll lads its the ugliest most awkward tool I've ever used. What's wrong with using a spud wrench, grips or Stilson. That yoke looks like a child made it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    That yoke looks like a child made it

    Ak no!! a child could never use one ;):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    scudo2 wrote: »
    Mine fell out of the bed one night !

    I love it !

    Never let me down no matter how badly I treat it. !
    As I have said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Ak no!! a child could never use one ;):D

    Because even a child would buy a decent tool!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I think there the best too ever. Much better than a grips for holding and not marking stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    All joking aside, i have and use both footprints and stilsons, i prefer footprints because they grip rigidly where as i always feel the spring in stilsons, you can give footprints a better slap with a lump hammer and they're also so!! easy to use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Because even a child would buy a decent tool!!

    Out voted I think. Not trying to use somebody else's words but I quote:

    " Your wrong " IMHO

    Hmmmmm......


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    Footprints all day everyday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    I'll have to go n get one now...

    Have a flat faced nipex grips I find that a great tool for tap and such where you need alot of force but can't mark, shifting spanner would just slip and ring the work piece.

    €80 though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    esox28 wrote: »
    I'll have to go n get one now...

    Have a flat faced nipex grips I find that a great tool for tap and such where you need alot of force but can't mark, shifting spanner would just slip and ring the work piece.

    €80 though.

    Great tool


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