2006 Volvo V50 1.6D Engine problems

greyv50

timmy4u2 wrote: »

That is very true. Properly serviced and with realistic time span between servicing and the use of 5.30 low saps oil (Total is the only fully approved oil) these engines will give good service.
Big problem was that the manufacturers recommended 30k service intervals and did not emphasise The importance of the low saps oil.
These engines also benefit from higher revs so I would let it work harder through the gears
I think greyv50 that the gods might be with you as normally the turbo would be mush by now if the engine continued to throw out carbon.
Many of my extended family have cars with this engine from peugeots, 407 and partners to mini's and they are all now religiously using dipetane in the diesel to get a cleaner burn and reduce the chancesvof carbon build up.

My Volvo V50 1.6D has fuel additive tank on the rear axle which is used to add an ELOYS fluid fuel additive to the fuel to help burn off carbon build up in the dpf during regeneration. This fuel additive needs to be topped up every 36k miles I think.

Given that the car already has an automated fuel additive system, would it be recommended to add another fuel additive like Dipetane?

Questions that come to mind:
What are the consequences of mixing 2 different fuel additives?
Is the car's fuel additive system not adequate to keep the engine clean along with proper servicing?

timmy4u2

greyv50 wrote: »

My Volvo V50 1.6D has fuel additive tank on the rear axle which is used to add an ELOYS fluid fuel additive to the fuel to help burn off carbon build up in the dpf during regeneration. This fuel additive needs to be topped up every 36k miles I think.

Given that the car already has an automated fuel additive system, would it be recommended to add another fuel additive like Dipetane?

Questions that come to mind:
What are the consequences of mixing 2 different fuel additives?
Is the car's fuel additive system not adequate to keep the engine clean along with proper servicing?

All of these additives are subject to opinion. That unit is specifically for one purpose.
I have found Dipetane to be excellent and I always use it.
Obviously fuel companies will not up the price of the petrol to include these additives and they really could not change their formula every time a car manufacturer f★》☆■d up

George Dalton

Just to add a bit of balance to the slating the DV6 engine is getting on here:

I serviced a 2005 Peugeot 307 1.6HDI this morning with 282,000km on it. We have been looking after it for most of its life.

The turbo is original.
The DPF is original (additive tank has been refilled twice)
The clutch and flywheel are original.

The only things the engine has had done to it apart from servicing and a timing belt are a couple of injector washers, an EGR valve and a set of glow plugs.

timmy4u2

George Dalton wrote: »

Just to add a bit of balance to the slating the DV6 engine is getting on here:

I serviced a 2005 Peugeot 307 1.6HDI this morning with 282,000km on it. We have been looking after it for most of its life.

The turbo is original.
The DPF is original (additive tank has been refilled twice)
The clutch and flywheel are original.

The only things the engine has had done to it apart from servicing and a timing belt are a couple of injector washers, an EGR valve and a set of glow plugs.

This old reckord keeps being played. There is not too much problem if they are serviced properly with the correct oil and at intervals way below what Peugeot and others recommended.
I play my reckord to make sure that people out there know that if they do not service properly they may be presented with the scene below.
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=carbon%20in%20a%20psa%20enging&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.assuredperformance.ie%2Fassets%2Fimages%2FPresentation-1.6-hdi-carbo-issues.pdf&ei=Bt14Us_VM7HB7AbD2oCYBQ&usg=AFQjCNFFJ1p24B4NyrTNp2FyJqdkIa3ZPg&bvm=bv.55980276,d.ZGU

mullingar

timmy4u2 wrote: »

This old reckord keeps being played. There is not too much problem if they are serviced properly with the correct oil and at intervals way below what Peugeot and others recommended.
I play my reckord to make sure that people out there know that if they do not service properly they may be presented with the scene below.
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=carbon%20in%20a%20psa%20enging&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.assuredperformance.ie%2Fassets%2Fimages%2FPresentation-1.6-hdi-carbo-issues.pdf&ei=Bt14Us_VM7HB7AbD2oCYBQ&usg=AFQjCNFFJ1p24B4NyrTNp2FyJqdkIa3ZPg&bvm=bv.55980276,d.ZGU

Thats a great example of what happens when you DONT service it correctly.

Serviced by a main franchised dealer 2 times from new, at
every 30,000 miles approx , and 3 times by an independent
garage 3 times in total, every 15,000 miles.

Come on, 108k miles and it was only serviced 5 times? Even worse, its was only serviced TWICE in 60k miles.. No wonder its dead.


The DV6 is a very good engine. Its Achilles heel is its owners. It simply has to be serviced on time with the right spec oil. If you keep to this, its a brilliant reliable little engine

timmy4u2

mullingar wrote: »

Thats a great example of what happens when you DONT service it correctly.



Come on, 108k miles and it was only serviced 5 times? Even worse, its was only serviced TWICE in 60k miles.. No wonder its dead.


The DV6 is a very good engine. Its Achilles heel is its owners. It simply has to be serviced on time with the right spec oil. If you keep to this, its a brilliant reliable little engine

As I said that is what happens when they are not serviced properly.

But wait a minute......do you not know what the recommended servIce interval was? It was 30, 000 miles so that engine was serviced in accordance with manufacturers recommendations.
The next three services were done at half the then recommended service interval

So I presume that when you say serviced on time you mean at a time that you consider is a proper interval
I would say that you never let it go beyond 9000 miles.

And just as an aside the cam belt interval was 150, 000 miles.

Anybody that ask me for my opinion about buying a car or van with one of these engines I tell them not to touch it unless it has a service history, and at that, a history that shows it was serviced at the most at not more than 10k miles.

Mycroft H

timmy4u2 wrote: »

As I said that is what happens when they are not serviced properly.

But wait a minute......do you not know what the recommended servIce interval was? It was 30, 000 miles so that engine was serviced in accordance with manufacturers recommendations.
The next three services were done at half the then recommended service interval

The service interval has never been 30,000miles. It's always been 12,000 miles in that engine.

I think I found your problem.

timmy4u2

BX 19 wrote: »

The service interval has never been 30,000miles. It's always been 12,000 miles in that engine.

I think I found your problem.

I think you have a problen. You are mixing it up with your BX:rolleyes:

Mycroft H

timmy4u2 wrote: »

I think you have a problen. You are mixing it up with your BX:rolleyes:

I'll actually go out and take a photo of the service book if you like.

It's been 12k miles on 2004 Berlingo and a 2006 C5. It's mentioned as being the same everywhere else on the web.

This is for the 16v 1580cc DV6 (1.6HDi)

Where are you getting 30k out of? I've never seen such a long service interval on any car.

timmy4u2

BX 19 wrote: »

I'll actually go out and take a photo of the service book if you like.

It's been 12k miles on 2004 Berlingo and a 2006 C5. It's mentioned as being the same everywhere else on the web.

This is for the 16v 1580cc DV6 (1.6HDi)

Where are you getting 30k out of? I've never seen such a long service interval on any car.

Ever wonder why the engine in the link was serviced at 30k by a main dealer?
The new service interval is 12500k.
They thought in the beginning that they were on to a great thing. Quickly changed when the engines started to carbon up.
Funny enough the Expert 1.6 has a service interval of 20k miles and the Bipper 1.3 is even higher again at 22500.

What cc did you say that 2004 Berlingo was?

Row

In relation to Peugeot/Citroens the original service intervals for the Dv6 engine was 20,000 kms (12.4274 mls) but now it has been brought back to 15,000 kms (9.320 mls).
The service intervals was brought down due to the history of issues with this engine.
As mentioned here and many other sites,short service intervals with the correct grade of oil is Key with this engine.

Lion79

greyv50 wrote: »

As the original poster on this topic I will give you all an update of my situation. Thanks by the way for all the comments and suggestions. I have learned a thing or 2 about my Volvo v50 1.6D.

I decided to have the turbo and inlet manifold replaced by the local Volvo dealer. The cost was 1450 euro and the work carried out included sump removal and inspection for debris or carbon deposits. Main dealer reported that sump was clean. The engine was flushed and an oil and filter change carried out and a new turbo and inlet manifold were installed. The car has since completed 3,000km with no issues (touch wood), however after reading recent posts and the link about the PSA 1.6D engines with turbo failure I would have 2nd thoughts about holding onto my car in fear of future problems.

The car has 160k km on the clock and I have had it since 140k km. I have spent a fortune on this car (4,000 euro) replacing the air inlet hose, rear door lock, dpf, turbo, 2 inlet manifolds, the injector seals, crankshaft pulley, battery and 4 new tyres. The car has had 3 oil changes including the one with the turbo replacement.

Having spent all that money and carrying out all the above repairs, I would almost begrudge selling the car and let someone else get the benefit of the repairs but having read the posts on this forum I also worry about holding onto the car in fear of future engine/turbo problems.

Problems aside, the v50 is a lovely car with good spec. Pity about the 1.6D engine choice.

Has anyone out there got a v50 1.6d (05, 06, 07) with high mileage with no turbo / engine trouble???? Would be interesting to know.

Yes, very same problem with same car and engine size. No power and car shudders, anti skid messages etc. Have replaced a parts of parts such as air flow sensor, glow plugs...

mlmcelligott

So i sorted the car.

There were two problems:

Lose of boost
This was a damaged o-ring in the turbo inlet pipe where it connects to the top of the engine crank case. When it got hot and there was alot of pressure behind it it would blow out loosing pressure and the engine would have no power. When the engine cooled down it would seal up again. this was an intermittent fault. 2 euro fix

Hesitant pulling away
the egr valve was gone. by default its open and only closes at low revs so the recirculated exhaust gas was being recirculed into the engine even at idle so there wasnt as much fresh air as there should be. got an oem replacement from Dave in DH spares out in ballymount roundabout industrial estate for 200. Hes advertising them on adverts too. Volvo wanted alot more than 200 for a new one.

Car is perfect now.

smythy111

I have a 06 s40 1.6 diesel. I had the dpf changed at Volvo in 2011 at a cost of €945. (robbery). I had little or no trouble with it up until that point. Usual stuff. Bushings and other perishables. four months ago whilst driving I heard a huge bang and a massive loss of power (car went into limp mode) I had to have the car towed to a volvo garage. The service manager rang me and told me that the turbo had blown and that it was going to cost in the region of €1500 to be replaced. I thought this was steep but reluctantly had to give the go ahead to have it fixed. He rings me two days later to inform me that there was more extensive damage done to the engine and that it was going to cost €2900. At this stage i lost the plot with the service manager and accused him of daylight robbery. I told him i simply could not afford to have it fixed at that price. He told me he would do whatever possible to reduce the costs. In total it cost €2500 (scumbags) 4 months on and a whistling noise has developed from what seems like the turbo. A friend of mine (mechanic) confirmed that it was the turbo and the whistling was coming from back pressure. I imediatley brought back to main dealer and explained how the turbo was making noise. They ran diagnostics on it and showed me a list of faults. None of which was turbo. EGR, DPF, told me that the glow plugs was most likely the cause of the whistling and that it was more than likely nothing to do with the turbo. I have never been so angry. Dont know what to do. Should have gotten rid of the car months ago. So to answer your question. Trade the car in now before it WILL cost you a lot more money.

N.B 190KM On car and serviced regularly

corkgsxr

smythy111 wrote: »

I have a 06 s40 1.6 diesel. I had the dpf changed at Volvo in 2011 at a cost of €945. (robbery). I had little or no trouble with it up until that point. Usual stuff. Bushings and other perishables. four months ago whilst driving I heard a huge bang and a massive loss of power (car went into limp mode) I had to have the car towed to a volvo garage. The service manager rang me and told me that the turbo had blown and that it was going to cost in the region of €1500 to be replaced. I thought this was steep but reluctantly had to give the go ahead to have it fixed. He rings me two days later to inform me that there was more extensive damage done to the engine and that it was going to cost €2900. At this stage i lost the plot with the service manager and accused him of daylight robbery. I told him i simply could not afford to have it fixed at that price. He told me he would do whatever possible to reduce the costs. In total it cost €2500 (scumbags) 4 months on and a whistling noise has developed from what seems like the turbo. A friend of mine (mechanic) confirmed that it was the turbo and the whistling was coming from back pressure. I imediatley brought back to main dealer and explained how the turbo was making noise. They ran diagnostics on it and showed me a list of faults. None of which was turbo. EGR, DPF, told me that the glow plugs was most likely the cause of the whistling and that it was more than likely nothing to do with the turbo. I have never been so angry. Dont know what to do. Should have gotten rid of the car months ago. So to answer your question. Trade the car in now before it WILL cost you a lot more money.

N.B 190KM On car and serviced regularly

Lordy how can a glowplug cause whistling?

More than likely they didnt flush properly and sludge is killing the new turbo.

Drive on and when it blows hand it back for a new turbo

smythy111

I hear what your saying but i cant handle the noise much longer lol. Im sick of main dealers. Pure robbery. A friend did tell me it could be the intercooler wioth a leak causing the back pressure