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2006 Volvo V50 1.6D Engine problems

  • 10-09-2013 12:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    Hello.

    I am new to this forum and I have some engine trouble with my v50 1.6D.

    I purchased my car privately about 9 months ago, a lovely v50 1.6D with all the extras with 90k miles on the clock. I immediately changed the oil and filter. Initially I noticed that the fuel consumption was much higher than the specifications suggested about 8.4l/100km instead of 6l/100km. After some research I realised that the DPF filter was not replaced at 75k miles and I became aware that one of the symptoms of a blocked DPF is higher fuel consumption. I had the DPF filter replaced and fuel additive topped up at our local Volvo dealer at a cost of 650 euro and immediately the fuel consumption improved dramatically.
    Happy days I thought but my happiness was short lived. About 6k miles later (96k miles) a couple of errors appeared on the display "Anti skid service required" and "Reduced engine performance". During the errors the car had little power but all returned to normal after turning engine off and on again until next time error occurred. On taking car back to the Volvo dealer we were informed that there was a faulty injector seal on the engine. I challenged the diagnosis provided by the dealer as I read on forums that the Anti Skid Service Required error was caused by a faulty ABS module or wiring loom issues. The Volvo dealer insisted that the faulty injector seal was the only problem they could see. The dealer also carried out a service at this point at my request (Oil and filter change) at a cost of 220 euro. I had to return at a later date to have the injector seals replaced. Since the service I noticed that the "Anti Skid Service Required" and " Reduced Engine Performance" errors were no longer present which I thought strange as the injector seals were not replaced yet. I returned at a later date and after having the injector seals replaced and spending 350 euro I hoped my problem was solved only to return to the dealer a couple of weeks later with a total loss of power and the engine emissions light illuminated on the dash board.

    The diagnosis this time was a cracked inlet manifold. The dealer said they had a crashed car in stock with a good manifold and fitted it to my car at a cost of 220 euro. The car then ran fine for about 2 months or 2k miles and recently the engine emissions warning light appeared again and disappeared and reappeared during the past week. My wife took the car to the Volvo dealer again and this time they say the inlet manifold is cracked again. They say it's being caused by too much pressure in the engine and they suspect that this problem was caused by the delay in replacing the DPF filter. The dealer says that they fear the turbo could die if this persists.

    If there is a person with experience with this engine out there I would be very grateful if you have any thoughts on my problem.

    Any help would be much appreciated.
    Thank you.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Id be checking the egr valve sending too much into the inlet and also blocking the dpf with crud


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    I'd go to an independent Volvo specialist. That main dealer is robbing you blind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    mullingar wrote: »
    I'd go to an independent Volvo specialist. That main dealer is robbing you blind

    This is good advice but what you could do is get the basic service with authorised volvo dealer and everything else done independently. Can maintain your perks that way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    This is good advice but what you could do is get the basic service with authorised volvo dealer and everything else done independently. Can maintain your perks that way

    But its an 06 car, at that age a main dealer stamp means nothing and an independent dealer stamp will carry the same value.



    but to throw my opinion on it, a cracked inlet manifold? I'd check the boost pressures across the full rev range to make sure the turbo actuator and variable geometry vanes in the turbo are working fine.

    Anti-skid warning? I'd get an OBD2 reader and find out the exact code, it could be a simple ABS sensor that it starting to act up.

    Diesel injector seals, these are just tiny copper washers about €5-€10 each, yes they can leak and cause carbon deposits around the injectors and wont cause any noticable power loss if it small , nothing to do with any ABD/Skid systems, but €350 to replace the seal? ouch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭Sobanek


    If you're in Dublin, give Mactronic a call: 014629800. They have DICE and VIDA, and will most likely identify the problem quicker than those utter pillocks at the main service. If you're in Dublin, I'm 99% sure which one you've been to all the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,639 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Sobanek wrote: »
    If you're in Dublin, give Mactronic a call: 014629800. They have DICE and VIDA, and will most likely identify the problem quicker than those utter pillocks at the main service. If you're in Dublin, I'm 99% sure which one you've been to all the time.

    Ah go on, give us a clue! Used to have an s 40 and sadly I had a lot of the same trouble with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭ElKavo


    For the anti skid warning check your tone rings or abs rings. I had a broken one on an s80 and it kicked the stc off all the time. The only way you could drive the car was to disable the stc. If you remove the sensor from the wheel you should be able to spin the hub ( out of gear for fronts and HB off for rears) You'll soon spot the broken / cracked ring. Volvo quoted me €1200 for a new drive shaft to repair but 2 tone rings ( 1 spare) delivered only cost me £8. and It took about 1.5 hrs to replace on my driveway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    mullingar wrote: »
    But its an 06 car, at that age a main dealer stamp means nothing and an independent dealer stamp will carry the same value.



    but to throw my opinion on it, a cracked inlet manifold? I'd check the boost pressures across the full rev range to make sure the turbo actuator and variable geometry vanes in the turbo are working fine.

    Anti-skid warning? I'd get an OBD2 reader and find out the exact code, it could be a simple ABS sensor that it starting to act up.

    Diesel injector seals, these are just tiny copper washers about €5-€10 each, yes they can leak and cause carbon deposits around the injectors and wont cause any noticable power loss if it small , nothing to do with any ABD/Skid systems, but €350 to replace the seal? ouch

    Main perks are things like volvo cover once you service with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Main perks are things like volvo cover once you service with them.

    Eh?, please explain how Volvo will cover a 7 year old car with just an oil/filter service?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    mullingar wrote: »
    Eh?, please explain how Volvo will cover a 7 year old car with just an oil/filter service?

    It depends on your mileage. once over 200km and you get your car serviced at an authorised dealer you get volvo cover

    edit 200,000 km that should read


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    It depends on your mileage. once over 200km and you get your car serviced at an authorised dealer you get volvo cover

    edit 200,000 km that should read

    And what do volvo actually "cover" on a car with >200k.km when they start to do the servicing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    mullingar wrote: »
    And what do volvo actually "cover" on a car with >200k.km when they start to do the servicing?

    I dont know, why dont you look it up yourself. Someone was telling me about it and lose the attitude


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Attitude? What attitude? I only asked a civilised question

    I only asked as there is no way any dealer, main or indy, would dare to offer any "cover" on a car they never seen before that they start to service with over 200k.km as you indicated. Financial suicide

    Your statement "someone was telling me" speaks volumes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 greyv50


    mullingar wrote: »
    But its an 06 car, at that age a main dealer stamp means nothing and an independent dealer stamp will carry the same value.



    but to throw my opinion on it, a cracked inlet manifold? I'd check the boost pressures across the full rev range to make sure the turbo actuator and variable geometry vanes in the turbo are working fine.

    Anti-skid warning? I'd get an OBD2 reader and find out the exact code, it could be a simple ABS sensor that it starting to act up.

    Diesel injector seals, these are just tiny copper washers about €5-€10 each, yes they can leak and cause carbon deposits around the injectors and wont cause any noticable power loss if it small , nothing to do with any ABD/Skid systems, but €350 to replace the seal? ouch


    Well I had my Volvo V50 back to the main dealer today to further investigate engine pressure problem causing inlet manifold to crack and the diagnosis from the dealer was as Mullingar suggested the variable geometry vanes in the turbo are not working properly and therefore the turbo is producing more pressure than required, resulting in the cracked manifold. The issue of the variable geometry vanes failing is thought to have been caused by carbon build up on the vanes due to the DPF filter change not being carried out in time by the previous owner.

    The solution suggested by the main dealer is a turbo and inlet manifold replacement and an engine flush/clean with sump removal at a cost of 1500 euro approx.

    I am stuck in 2 minds to either trade the car in for a different make or have the turbo and manifold replaced and continue owning this Volvo V50. The cheaper option assuming everything gets fixed and have no further problems is to have my car repaired as it is worthless as a trade in.

    I must say I am totally gutted and frustrated and am very reluctant to spend this money as my trust in this car is almost damaged beyond repair. The dealer assures me that with a turbo replacement and engine clean my problems will be solved.

    Has anyone any experience having turbo replacement done on Volvo V50/S40 and continuing ownership trouble free or is it time to get rid of this car and change to a different make?????

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭skyhighflyer


    I personally wouldn't be spending a good 25 per cent of the car's value on a fix, especially not at the main dealer whose service hasn't been all that amazing from your story.

    Sorry to hear about the problems you've been having with your car. As lots of people here will tell you, modern diesels need lots of maintenance and it sounds as if yours was neglected by its previous owner(s).

    I'd take the car out of the main dealers, as others have said, no sense in paying main dealer rates on a 7 year old car. Check the cost of having a reconditioned turbo and replacement manifold fitted at an independent garage and then decide whether to get rid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    My advice is never ever go back to that volvo dealer. Find a good independent garage who will do that work for around half that price.

    Another thing I would do is connect a pressure gauge to tee into the turbo actuator hose pipe to see if it's getting variable pressure to control the speed of the turbo (tiny black hose under the turbo) . If it's not as it should be, it could be a cheap fix if the turbo control solenoid valve is faulty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭mlmcelligott


    Sorry to hijack this thread but im looking for some info from the guys here.

    I bought a v50 1.6d two weeks ago and had no problems with it. Over the weekend it has developed an intermittent issue where it has no boost on the motorway but when you're driving around town its fine again. On the trip back from Cork earlier there was a 30 second boost delay when it didi boost but for most of the trip there was no boost. No dash lights came up either.

    Car is 2007 with 180k km and full volvo service history.

    Any ideas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,384 ✭✭✭pred racer


    Sounds like a maf or map sensor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    Tbh it could also be many other things from a turbo control solenoid/blocked dpf/etc so get it plugged in to see if there are any fault codes logged and view turbo pressure/dpf diff pressure etc on live data to see whats happening..:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    I dont like being the bearer of bad news but I am led to believe that the 1.6 diesel engine fitted to these volvos is the psa engine developed jointly by Peugeot and Ford.
    For these engines to function properly and to get any reasonable service life out of them they have to be serviced very regularly, at most not more than every 8k miles.
    The only oil to be used in these engines is a 5/30 low saps oil. Preferably Total.

    Earlier engines expired at quite low mileages because the service intervals were too long and the wrong oil was being used.
    If you are very lucky you may get away with an egr valve but usually when the engine starts to show problems it is too late to do anything other than to replace the engine.

    It is very important not to buy a car with one of these engines without having a full service record.
    Have a look at this link to see what happens

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=psa%20carbon%20problems&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.assuredperformance.ie%2Fassets%2Fimages%2FPresentation-1.6-hdi-carbo-issues.pdf&ei=A7NtUtePH6n50gXY7YGoCw&usg=AFQjCNFFJ1p24B4NyrTNp2FyJqdkIa3ZPg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭mlmcelligott


    Row wrote: »
    Tbh it could also be many other things from a turbo control solenoid/blocked dpf/etc so get it plugged in to see if there are any fault codes logged and view turbo pressure/dpf diff pressure etc on live data to see whats happening..:)

    Car wouldnt start this morning but it turned out to be a loose battery connection that must have been causing the intermittent fault. I tightened it up and hopefully the turbo boost issue is gone now. Will take it for a drive later to test it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    Car wouldnt start this morning but it turned out to be a loose battery connection that must have been causing the intermittent fault. I tightened it up and hopefully the turbo boost issue is gone now. Will take it for a drive later to test it out.
    I do hope it is for your sake.
    Did you have a look at the link above.
    Only good thing is its mileage. It would not reach that mileage unless it has a replacement engine or it was serviced properly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    mullingar wrote: »
    My advice is never ever go back to that volvo dealer. Find a good independent garage who will do that work for around half that price.

    Another thing I would do is connect a pressure gauge to tee into the turbo actuator hose pipe to see if it's getting variable pressure to control the speed of the turbo (tiny black hose under the turbo) . If it's not as it should be, it could be a cheap fix if the turbo control solenoid valve is faulty

    I dont think 1500 to supply and fit a turbo and inlet and flush the engine is mad money especially when those turbos are rare as hens teeth and expensive. Id imagine the Dealer would supply a lengthy warranty with the turbo, too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    I dont think 1500 to supply and fit a turbo and inlet and flush the engine is mad money especially when those turbos are rare as hens teeth and expensive. Id imagine the Dealer would supply a lengthy warranty with the turbo, too.
    Yes but these engines have a known fault in that they carbon up and then the carbon takes two routes to damage the turbo.
    First route is through the oil I feed pipe. In cars up to late 09 there was a filter in this pipe at the lower banjo bolt. The carbon that broke away from the engine got trapped in this filter and starved the turbo of oil.
    The second route was where the escaping carbon hit the vanes of the turbo and caused the turbo to self destruct.

    Either way the turbo is not at fault; the turbo manufacturers know about this fault with the PSA engine and they will not replace turbos so warrantied and damaged.
    The main dealer has to know about these engines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    From what I understood the Dealer didn't say the turbo was at fault, but it was damaged from what the fault was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    From what I understood the Dealer didn't say the turbo was at fault, but it was damaged from what the fault was.
    It will continue to be damaged because there is nothing you can do with these engines when they have reached the stage of loosing carbon from the engine. Have a look at the link.
    Turbo manufacturers and or reconditioners will supply you with the turbo but they will not warranty them when so damaged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 greyv50


    As the original poster on this topic I will give you all an update of my situation. Thanks by the way for all the comments and suggestions. I have learned a thing or 2 about my Volvo v50 1.6D.

    I decided to have the turbo and inlet manifold replaced by the local Volvo dealer. The cost was 1450 euro and the work carried out included sump removal and inspection for debris or carbon deposits. Main dealer reported that sump was clean. The engine was flushed and an oil and filter change carried out and a new turbo and inlet manifold were installed. The car has since completed 3,000km with no issues (touch wood), however after reading recent posts and the link about the PSA 1.6D engines with turbo failure I would have 2nd thoughts about holding onto my car in fear of future problems.

    The car has 160k km on the clock and I have had it since 140k km. I have spent a fortune on this car (4,000 euro) replacing the air inlet hose, rear door lock, dpf, turbo, 2 inlet manifolds, the injector seals, crankshaft pulley, battery and 4 new tyres. The car has had 3 oil changes including the one with the turbo replacement.

    Having spent all that money and carrying out all the above repairs, I would almost begrudge selling the car and let someone else get the benefit of the repairs but having read the posts on this forum I also worry about holding onto the car in fear of future engine/turbo problems.

    Problems aside, the v50 is a lovely car with good spec. Pity about the 1.6D engine choice.

    Has anyone out there got a v50 1.6d (05, 06, 07) with high mileage with no turbo / engine trouble???? Would be interesting to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    greyv50 wrote: »
    Has anyone out there got a v50 1.6d (05, 06, 07) with high mileage with no turbo / engine trouble???? Would be interesting to know.

    I am running a 1.6 hdi 407 (same engine) with 130k mls (210kms) on its original turbo....but saying that it has been serviced on the button @ 9k mls.

    I serviced another 407 a few months ago with 155k mls (250kms) and it was on its original turbo also.....tbh it was running fine with a dry engine.

    These engines seem to survive once serviced on time and once the correct oil is used from day one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,639 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Op I think after spending all that hold onto the damn thing and take your chances.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    Row wrote: »
    I am running a 1.6 hdi 407 (same engine) with 130k mls (210kms) on its original turbo....but saying that it has been serviced on the button @ 9k mls.

    I serviced another 407 a few months ago with 155k mls (250kms) and it was on its original turbo also.....tbh it was running fine with a dry engine.

    These engines seem to survive once serviced on time and once the correct oil is used from day one.
    That is very true. Properly serviced and with realistic time span between servicing and the use of 5.30 low saps oil (Total is the only fully approved oil) these engines will give good service.
    Big problem was that the manufacturers recommended 30k service intervals and did not emphasise The importance of the low saps oil.
    These engines also benefit from higher revs so I would let it work harder through the gears
    I think greyv50 that the gods might be with you as normally the turbo would be mush by now if the engine continued to throw out carbon.
    Many of my extended family have cars with this engine from peugeots, 407 and partners to mini's and they are all now religiously using dipetane in the diesel to get a cleaner burn and reduce the chancesvof carbon build up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 greyv50


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    That is very true. Properly serviced and with realistic time span between servicing and the use of 5.30 low saps oil (Total is the only fully approved oil) these engines will give good service.
    Big problem was that the manufacturers recommended 30k service intervals and did not emphasise The importance of the low saps oil.
    These engines also benefit from higher revs so I would let it work harder through the gears
    I think greyv50 that the gods might be with you as normally the turbo would be mush by now if the engine continued to throw out carbon.
    Many of my extended family have cars with this engine from peugeots, 407 and partners to mini's and they are all now religiously using dipetane in the diesel to get a cleaner burn and reduce the chancesvof carbon build up.

    My Volvo V50 1.6D has fuel additive tank on the rear axle which is used to add an ELOYS fluid fuel additive to the fuel to help burn off carbon build up in the dpf during regeneration. This fuel additive needs to be topped up every 36k miles I think.

    Given that the car already has an automated fuel additive system, would it be recommended to add another fuel additive like Dipetane?

    Questions that come to mind:
    What are the consequences of mixing 2 different fuel additives?
    Is the car's fuel additive system not adequate to keep the engine clean along with proper servicing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    greyv50 wrote: »
    My Volvo V50 1.6D has fuel additive tank on the rear axle which is used to add an ELOYS fluid fuel additive to the fuel to help burn off carbon build up in the dpf during regeneration. This fuel additive needs to be topped up every 36k miles I think.

    Given that the car already has an automated fuel additive system, would it be recommended to add another fuel additive like Dipetane?

    Questions that come to mind:
    What are the consequences of mixing 2 different fuel additives?
    Is the car's fuel additive system not adequate to keep the engine clean along with proper servicing?
    All of these additives are subject to opinion. That unit is specifically for one purpose.
    I have found Dipetane to be excellent and I always use it.
    Obviously fuel companies will not up the price of the petrol to include these additives and they really could not change their formula every time a car manufacturer f★》☆■d up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Just to add a bit of balance to the slating the DV6 engine is getting on here:

    I serviced a 2005 Peugeot 307 1.6HDI this morning with 282,000km on it. We have been looking after it for most of its life.

    The turbo is original.
    The DPF is original (additive tank has been refilled twice)
    The clutch and flywheel are original.

    The only things the engine has had done to it apart from servicing and a timing belt are a couple of injector washers, an EGR valve and a set of glow plugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    Just to add a bit of balance to the slating the DV6 engine is getting on here:

    I serviced a 2005 Peugeot 307 1.6HDI this morning with 282,000km on it. We have been looking after it for most of its life.

    The turbo is original.
    The DPF is original (additive tank has been refilled twice)
    The clutch and flywheel are original.

    The only things the engine has had done to it apart from servicing and a timing belt are a couple of injector washers, an EGR valve and a set of glow plugs.

    This old reckord keeps being played. There is not too much problem if they are serviced properly with the correct oil and at intervals way below what Peugeot and others recommended.
    I play my reckord to make sure that people out there know that if they do not service properly they may be presented with the scene below.
    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=carbon%20in%20a%20psa%20enging&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.assuredperformance.ie%2Fassets%2Fimages%2FPresentation-1.6-hdi-carbo-issues.pdf&ei=Bt14Us_VM7HB7AbD2oCYBQ&usg=AFQjCNFFJ1p24B4NyrTNp2FyJqdkIa3ZPg&bvm=bv.55980276,d.ZGU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    This old reckord keeps being played. There is not too much problem if they are serviced properly with the correct oil and at intervals way below what Peugeot and others recommended.
    I play my reckord to make sure that people out there know that if they do not service properly they may be presented with the scene below.
    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=carbon%20in%20a%20psa%20enging&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.assuredperformance.ie%2Fassets%2Fimages%2FPresentation-1.6-hdi-carbo-issues.pdf&ei=Bt14Us_VM7HB7AbD2oCYBQ&usg=AFQjCNFFJ1p24B4NyrTNp2FyJqdkIa3ZPg&bvm=bv.55980276,d.ZGU


    Thats a great example of what happens when you DONT service it correctly.
    Serviced by a main franchised dealer 2 times from new, at
    every 30,000 miles approx , and 3 times by an independent
    garage 3 times in total, every 15,000 miles.

    Come on, 108k miles and it was only serviced 5 times? Even worse, its was only serviced TWICE in 60k miles.. No wonder its dead.


    The DV6 is a very good engine. Its Achilles heel is its owners. It simply has to be serviced on time with the right spec oil. If you keep to this, its a brilliant reliable little engine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    mullingar wrote: »
    Thats a great example of what happens when you DONT service it correctly.



    Come on, 108k miles and it was only serviced 5 times? Even worse, its was only serviced TWICE in 60k miles.. No wonder its dead.


    The DV6 is a very good engine. Its Achilles heel is its owners. It simply has to be serviced on time with the right spec oil. If you keep to this, its a brilliant reliable little engine
    As I said that is what happens when they are not serviced properly.

    But wait a minute......do you not know what the recommended servIce interval was? It was 30, 000 miles so that engine was serviced in accordance with manufacturers recommendations.
    The next three services were done at half the then recommended service interval

    So I presume that when you say serviced on time you mean at a time that you consider is a proper interval
    I would say that you never let it go beyond 9000 miles.

    And just as an aside the cam belt interval was 150, 000 miles.

    Anybody that ask me for my opinion about buying a car or van with one of these engines I tell them not to touch it unless it has a service history, and at that, a history that shows it was serviced at the most at not more than 10k miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    As I said that is what happens when they are not serviced properly.

    But wait a minute......do you not know what the recommended servIce interval was? It was 30, 000 miles so that engine was serviced in accordance with manufacturers recommendations.
    The next three services were done at half the then recommended service interval


    The service interval has never been 30,000miles. It's always been 12,000 miles in that engine.

    I think I found your problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    BX 19 wrote: »
    The service interval has never been 30,000miles. It's always been 12,000 miles in that engine.

    I think I found your problem.

    I think you have a problen. You are mixing it up with your BX:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    I think you have a problen. You are mixing it up with your BX:rolleyes:

    I'll actually go out and take a photo of the service book if you like.

    It's been 12k miles on 2004 Berlingo and a 2006 C5. It's mentioned as being the same everywhere else on the web.

    This is for the 16v 1580cc DV6 (1.6HDi)

    Where are you getting 30k out of? I've never seen such a long service interval on any car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    BX 19 wrote: »
    I'll actually go out and take a photo of the service book if you like.

    It's been 12k miles on 2004 Berlingo and a 2006 C5. It's mentioned as being the same everywhere else on the web.

    This is for the 16v 1580cc DV6 (1.6HDi)

    Where are you getting 30k out of? I've never seen such a long service interval on any car.
    Ever wonder why the engine in the link was serviced at 30k by a main dealer?
    The new service interval is 12500k.
    They thought in the beginning that they were on to a great thing. Quickly changed when the engines started to carbon up.
    Funny enough the Expert 1.6 has a service interval of 20k miles and the Bipper 1.3 is even higher again at 22500.

    What cc did you say that 2004 Berlingo was?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    In relation to Peugeot/Citroens the original service intervals for the Dv6 engine was 20,000 kms (12.4274 mls) but now it has been brought back to 15,000 kms (9.320 mls).
    The service intervals was brought down due to the history of issues with this engine.
    As mentioned here and many other sites,short service intervals with the correct grade of oil is Key with this engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Lion79


    greyv50 wrote: »
    As the original poster on this topic I will give you all an update of my situation. Thanks by the way for all the comments and suggestions. I have learned a thing or 2 about my Volvo v50 1.6D.

    I decided to have the turbo and inlet manifold replaced by the local Volvo dealer. The cost was 1450 euro and the work carried out included sump removal and inspection for debris or carbon deposits. Main dealer reported that sump was clean. The engine was flushed and an oil and filter change carried out and a new turbo and inlet manifold were installed. The car has since completed 3,000km with no issues (touch wood), however after reading recent posts and the link about the PSA 1.6D engines with turbo failure I would have 2nd thoughts about holding onto my car in fear of future problems.

    The car has 160k km on the clock and I have had it since 140k km. I have spent a fortune on this car (4,000 euro) replacing the air inlet hose, rear door lock, dpf, turbo, 2 inlet manifolds, the injector seals, crankshaft pulley, battery and 4 new tyres. The car has had 3 oil changes including the one with the turbo replacement.

    Having spent all that money and carrying out all the above repairs, I would almost begrudge selling the car and let someone else get the benefit of the repairs but having read the posts on this forum I also worry about holding onto the car in fear of future engine/turbo problems.

    Problems aside, the v50 is a lovely car with good spec. Pity about the 1.6D engine choice.

    Has anyone out there got a v50 1.6d (05, 06, 07) with high mileage with no turbo / engine trouble???? Would be interesting to know.


    Yes, very same problem with same car and engine size. No power and car shudders, anti skid messages etc. Have replaced a parts of parts such as air flow sensor, glow plugs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭mlmcelligott


    So i sorted the car.

    There were two problems:

    Lose of boost
    This was a damaged o-ring in the turbo inlet pipe where it connects to the top of the engine crank case. When it got hot and there was alot of pressure behind it it would blow out loosing pressure and the engine would have no power. When the engine cooled down it would seal up again. this was an intermittent fault. 2 euro fix

    Hesitant pulling away
    the egr valve was gone. by default its open and only closes at low revs so the recirculated exhaust gas was being recirculed into the engine even at idle so there wasnt as much fresh air as there should be. got an oem replacement from Dave in DH spares out in ballymount roundabout industrial estate for 200. Hes advertising them on adverts too. Volvo wanted alot more than 200 for a new one.

    Car is perfect now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 smythy111


    I have a 06 s40 1.6 diesel. I had the dpf changed at Volvo in 2011 at a cost of €945. (robbery). I had little or no trouble with it up until that point. Usual stuff. Bushings and other perishables. four months ago whilst driving I heard a huge bang and a massive loss of power (car went into limp mode) I had to have the car towed to a volvo garage. The service manager rang me and told me that the turbo had blown and that it was going to cost in the region of €1500 to be replaced. I thought this was steep but reluctantly had to give the go ahead to have it fixed. He rings me two days later to inform me that there was more extensive damage done to the engine and that it was going to cost €2900. At this stage i lost the plot with the service manager and accused him of daylight robbery. I told him i simply could not afford to have it fixed at that price. He told me he would do whatever possible to reduce the costs. In total it cost €2500 (scumbags) 4 months on and a whistling noise has developed from what seems like the turbo. A friend of mine (mechanic) confirmed that it was the turbo and the whistling was coming from back pressure. I imediatley brought back to main dealer and explained how the turbo was making noise. They ran diagnostics on it and showed me a list of faults. None of which was turbo. EGR, DPF, told me that the glow plugs was most likely the cause of the whistling and that it was more than likely nothing to do with the turbo. I have never been so angry. Dont know what to do. Should have gotten rid of the car months ago. So to answer your question. Trade the car in now before it WILL cost you a lot more money.

    N.B 190KM On car and serviced regularly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    smythy111 wrote: »
    I have a 06 s40 1.6 diesel. I had the dpf changed at Volvo in 2011 at a cost of €945. (robbery). I had little or no trouble with it up until that point. Usual stuff. Bushings and other perishables. four months ago whilst driving I heard a huge bang and a massive loss of power (car went into limp mode) I had to have the car towed to a volvo garage. The service manager rang me and told me that the turbo had blown and that it was going to cost in the region of €1500 to be replaced. I thought this was steep but reluctantly had to give the go ahead to have it fixed. He rings me two days later to inform me that there was more extensive damage done to the engine and that it was going to cost €2900. At this stage i lost the plot with the service manager and accused him of daylight robbery. I told him i simply could not afford to have it fixed at that price. He told me he would do whatever possible to reduce the costs. In total it cost €2500 (scumbags) 4 months on and a whistling noise has developed from what seems like the turbo. A friend of mine (mechanic) confirmed that it was the turbo and the whistling was coming from back pressure. I imediatley brought back to main dealer and explained how the turbo was making noise. They ran diagnostics on it and showed me a list of faults. None of which was turbo. EGR, DPF, told me that the glow plugs was most likely the cause of the whistling and that it was more than likely nothing to do with the turbo. I have never been so angry. Dont know what to do. Should have gotten rid of the car months ago. So to answer your question. Trade the car in now before it WILL cost you a lot more money.

    N.B 190KM On car and serviced regularly

    Lordy how can a glowplug cause whistling?

    More than likely they didnt flush properly and sludge is killing the new turbo.

    Drive on and when it blows hand it back for a new turbo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 smythy111


    I hear what your saying but i cant handle the noise much longer lol. Im sick of main dealers. Pure robbery. A friend did tell me it could be the intercooler wioth a leak causing the back pressure


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