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How to properly connect oil line to tank?

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    #32
    Froststop
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Froststop


    esox28 wrote: »
    That's good to know about flax gas treading, would never have known till im getting calls down the line which is probably inevitable. Any gb systems iv done recenty am back annually for servicing so will keep a close eye.

    Started buy solar tubes from a company for the first time at the start of solar season,3 system into the summer and I start getting leak call backs in ascending order that the jobs started plus the leaks all in same spots, fiber washers were reacting, expanding and contracting with contact with the glycol resulting in leaks.
    Rang the suppliers and was told "sorry we've had problems with them washers"
    And sent out replacements.

    Sound....only most of the job were half days work scaffolding x2 men to just get access.

    Appoliges for rant

    But point is the 'best will in the world' and pipes will still have leaks.

    Did you take the flexible solar pipe directly to the panel?


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    #33
    esox28
    Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭esox28


    Flexi tails for wall or roof penatration supplied with system kit. Only use copper really.

    But yea flexi connected directly to brass male elbow connected to manifold.


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    #34
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    esox28 wrote: »
    Hello.....gas rots flax?

    Wtf never heard that before, what sort of timeframe are we talking?

    Flax/hemp was not allowed on Nat gas for over 25 years.

    It use to be used on prossed town gas, (long before my time) but not on NG. Not to sure about calor. Shane ??. It dried out on NG so we had to use just paste or ptfe tape on a high tech job when I worked in UK 26 Years ago.

    And so I never used it here.

    I totaly out of date now as I haven't done gas for years and better products out now. Hemp on water or oil is good with approved paste but a total no no on Natural gas.
    I'm totally shocked if its still used on NG these days. As for bottle gas I'll let Shane give his opinion.


    I know this has totaly moved off the topic of the oil tank. But I would like to thank everybody for their input, espicaly Shane, as I think we are all learning more here on boards than on some rip off cources for €500.
    Some of us are more up to date in what we specialised,but we don't know everything.
    We will all be learning till the day we die.
    Thanks All.


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    #35
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Hemp is not allowed on any gas pipework.

    Correction: that's a UK standard.
    In Ireland, hemp is allowed with an approved paste complying with BS6956. Paste must be approved for the gas type being used.
    Lead based paste is not allowed.


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    #36
    scudo2
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    shane0007 wrote: »
    Hemp is not allowed on any gas pipework.

    Correction: that's a UK styandard.
    In Ireland, hemp is allowed with an approved paste complying with BS6956. Paste must be approved for the gas type being used.
    Lead based paste is not allowed.

    Hemp was not approved by Board Gas in Cork. I don't know if this was a national rule but you didn't argue with a mister P.F. ( head engineer + more names) in the gas Co. here at the time.

    See froststop and Gifted posts on Cork.


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    #37
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Perhaps they could argue with themselves so.....

    Page 8
    http://www.bordgaisnetworks.ie/Global/Get%20Connected/BGN%20Get%20Connected%20Web%20Content/Get%20Connected%20Documents/Guidelines_for_desingers_builders_and_heatinstallers_Booklet_2.pdf


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    #38
    Froststop
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Froststop


    shane0007 wrote: »
    Perhaps they could argue with themselves so.....

    Page 8
    http://www.bordgaisnetworks.ie/Global/Get%20Connected/BGN%20Get%20Connected%20Web%20Content/Get%20Connected%20Documents/Guidelines_for_desingers_builders_and_heatinstallers_Booklet_2.pdf

    I came across that before and it threw me, but then again Bord Gáis seem to contradict themselves from time to time. They recently specified Atex approvals for some equipment I was sourcing for a job, but when I asked what zone they required they could not tell me!


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    #39
    scudo2
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    scudo2 wrote: »
    Hemp was not approved by Board Gas in Cork. I don't know if this was a national rule but you didn't argue with a mister P.F. ( head engineer + more names) in the gas Co. here at the time.

    See froststop and Gifted posts on Cork.
    .


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    #40
    Froststop
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Froststop


    esox28 wrote: »
    Flexi tails for wall or roof penatration supplied with system kit. Only use copper really.

    But yea flexi connected directly to brass male elbow connected to manifold.

    I normally use 3/4" copper through the roof and then change to the flexi.
    I wonder if the heat at the manifold was just to high for the fibre washers?

    we're gone off the road & now but it's all good for spreading the knowledge, sorry OP.


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    #41
    Froststop
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Froststop


    scudo2 wrote: »
    .

    ??:confused:


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    #42
    Froststop
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Froststop


    shane0007 wrote: »
    Hemp is not allowed on any gas pipework.

    Correction: that's a UK standard.
    In Ireland, hemp is allowed with an approved paste complying with BS6956. Paste must be approved for the gas type being used.
    Lead based paste is not allowed.

    What paste do you find the best for gas?


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    #43
    gifted
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    scudo2 wrote: »
    Hemp was not approved by Board Gas in Cork. I don't know if this was a national rule but you didn't argue with a mister P.F. ( head engineer + more names) in the gas Co. here at the time.

    See froststop and Gifted posts on Cork.

    We always used flax on gas lines, bosswhite was not allowed but we were allowed hawke white ( yellow tin), something about the oil not drying out like it does in bosswhite. That was in 2005 (last time I worked on a gas pipe in cork), don't know what the regulatons are now but it was all industrial plumbing i used do.


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    #44
    shane0007
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    Froststop wrote: »
    What paste do you find the best for gas?

    I use Unigas generally but sometimes whatever approved paste that is in stock at the time.
    It's taken me 2 weeks to get Denzo in!


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    #45
    Dtp79
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    Anybody use that rocol in a red tub? Really sticky stuff


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    #46
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Dtp79 wrote: »
    Anybody use that rocol in a red tub? Really sticky stuff

    Yes. It's very good but very messy. I like that....


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    #47
    Froststop
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Froststop


    gifted wrote: »
    We always used flax on gas lines, bosswhite was not allowed but we were allowed hawke white ( yellow tin), something about the oil not drying out like it does in bosswhite. That was in 2005 (last time I worked on a gas pipe in cork), don't know what the regulatons are now but it was all industrial plumbing i used do.

    I've never used Boss White on gas but according to Board Gáis BS6956 it's approved for natural gas.:confused:

    Another BG contradiction.


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    #48
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Froststop wrote: »
    I've never used Boss White on gas but according to Board Gáis BS6956 it's approved for natural gas.:confused:

    Another BG contradiction.

    I will check later in the regs rather than rely on the ol' reliable BG!
    I found it in my UK regs but didn't look in the Irish regs.


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    #49
    gifted
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    Froststop wrote: »
    I've never used Boss White on gas but according to Board Gáis BS6956 it's approved for natural gas.:confused:

    Another BG contradiction.

    It went crazy there a few years ago, one month we could use this, another month we weren't allowed, a month later another change, got to the stage that when we started a new contract the contracts manager would contact BG and find out what we could use and even then it could change by the time the job was finished :rolleyes:


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