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Death.

  • 05-09-2013 4:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭


    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    kneemos wrote: »
    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.

    It's as easy as you make, bring the right tools and it shouldn't be a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    A bit like saw, those nurses work those long hours because those traps dont set themselves up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    Grim thread should die quick death


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭kfk


    kneemos wrote: »
    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.

    Very vague question. Depends what is causing the person to die!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    I find if you approach from BEHIND and smother them with a pillow, its alot easier due to the no eye contact.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    kfk wrote: »
    Very vague question. Depends what is causing the person to die!

    Well natural causes I suppose.
    Such and such passed away peacefully is a common expression,but how often does it actually happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    Like Ronseal - Exactly what it says on the tin!

    If they say such and such slipped away peacefully and surrounded by family chances are they slipped away peacefully!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭kfk


    kneemos wrote: »
    Well natural causes I suppose.
    Such and such passed away peacefully is a common expression,but how often does it actually happen?

    When I go, I want it to be sudden. Heart attack, brain hemorrhage etc. Those would be the most peaceful I reckon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Like Ronseal - Exactly what it says on the tin!

    If they say such and such slipped away peacefully and surrounded by family chances are they slipped away peacefully!

    Well they can hardly put "Passed away, surrounded by family and Auntie Mary choking her" in the paper can they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I hope I go peacefully in my sleep like my grandad did.

    Not kicking and screaming like the 43passengers on the bus he was supposed to be drivin at the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    kfk wrote: »
    When I go, I want it to be sudden. Heart attack, brain hemorrhage etc. Those would be the most peaceful I reckon

    I don't mind if I go suddenly or not but as long as there's plenty of innocent bystanders I'd be happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    wazky wrote: »
    Well they can hardly put "Passed away, surrounded by family and Auntie Mary choking her" in the paper can they?

    You'd be surprised what they put in the paper these days!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Well this is nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Like Ronseal - Exactly what it says on the tin!

    If they say such and such slipped away peacefully and surrounded by family chances are they slipped away peacefully!

    All those dogs really go to live on a farm too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Diairist


    wazky wrote: »
    I find if you approach from BEHIND and smother them with a pillow, its alot easier due to the no eye contact.


    Completely agree. Fewer night mares afterwards. On both sides.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    kneemos wrote: »
    Well natural causes I suppose.
    Such and such passed away peacefully is a common expression,but how often does it actually happen?
    Natural causes can include a lot of diseases, some deaths can be brutal. However, nobody is going to say 'he/she died screaming' in an obituary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    kneemos wrote: »
    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.


    ....well if you're in a hospital, odds are they can dope you up to the eyeballs, so its really only going to be accidents, war, shootings etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    My dad died of heart failure, was very poorly for I suppose a week, then I'd say 3 absolutely horrible days of not being able to breathe but still being conscious till his heart finally gave up and he passed. I've had other relations die of cancer but I was young and I only have vague recollections of it being bad.

    Yeah, death is easy its the dying bit that often sucks balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Well, I'm sure glad I opened this thread.:(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sudden and massive heart attack will fell you like a tree. 3-4 seconds and lights out. Rapid onset of pneumonia would have you go out by hypoxia again an easy way out. A major artery in the stomach etc letting go another easy way. Bad ways? Anything to do with liver failure. Horrible horrible end for the most part. Various cancers other baddies, though pain meds are a great comfort there. Dementia? Jesus no way. Its like watching the human soul dying before your eyes.

    TBH I can't see why we even have a debate about euthanasia. Put it another way, if vets left our pets to linger on with no hope of cure and suffer doing so the way doctors are forced to treat people, they'd likely be struck off. Me if I was on the way out with no hope I'd love to be in the position of Sigmund Freud in his last days. He had agreed with a good mate doctor to finish him off when his jaw cancer got to the stage of pure misery and his good friend stepped up with the morphine when the time came.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Such a cheerful and uplifting thread title, couldn't wait to click it ! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Sudden and massive heart attack will fell you like a tree. 3-4 seconds and lights out. Rapid onset of pneumonia would have you go out by hypoxia again an easy way out. A major artery in the stomach etc letting go another easy way. Bad ways? Anything to do with liver failure. Horrible horrible end for the most part. Various cancers other baddies, though pain meds are a great comfort there. Dementia? Jesus no way. Its like watching the human soul dying before your eyes.

    .

    I lost my cousin aged 49 to Ovarian Cancer with liver mets. Her liver failed in the end, but she was in hospice four days before going. There was absolutely NO pain, distress, or any agitation. And she spoke to us happily twelve or so hours before she passed.

    Palliative care is amazing nowadays.

    So do not be afraid.

    Hospital settings might be different, but they all have palliative care teams now.

    Death to me is like being asleep. And God how many times have I fallen asleep and woke up not knowing I fell asleep! That's what death is, and none of this dying roaring business please.

    Lots of people have seen relatives and friends dying. Let's see it as part of life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Dying is the bad part, at least we can look forward to zombie reanimation!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    My nanny died in January after a 4 year battle with various illnesses - watching her over the years was horrendous for all involved!

    She decided many years ago to donate her body to medical science. All the documents were in place!

    She asked to die by euthanasia many times, obviously we couldn't bring her abroad as A she wouldn't survive the flight and B she couldn't donate her body then!

    It took two full weeks for her to die in the end, she was speaking up to two days before she passed away. The morning of the day she died she slipped into unconsciousness and 11 hours later she passed away with her husband and all of her children and grandchildren around her. It was quite peaceful and a release in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    kneemos wrote: »
    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.

    Why do you want to know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    kneemos wrote: »
    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.

    Awfully stupid question really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    Oh I won't be sticking around to see that part of the show.

    I really don't know why they don't have some kind of patient operated cattle gun contraption in hospices, not really much point at that stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Buzz, killed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭gidget


    I've watched 3 relatives die, there was almost 4 but I missed his passing by 10mins as we were all rushing in to get to him on time!
    2 out of the 3 were a few days dying & we pretty much camped out at the hospital waiting as we knew it was coming soon so when they finally did pass it was a bit of a relief to not just me but to the others as they were finally out of their suffering.
    The other one was the one that sticks with me the most was my aunt who was only 37 & everything happened so suddenly between getting the news & rushing up to be at her bedside to be with her in her final moments. That one particularly had more of an impact on me as everything happened so fast & between the funeral happening so quickly after it took a long time for it to finally sink in what had really happened. It was almost 8 years ago now but even now I would still think of her a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    anncoates wrote: »
    Buzz, killed.

    What method was used ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Weevil


    **Vai** wrote: »
    All those dogs really go to live on a farm too.
    And all those kittens will be having A Time, helping out at the local granary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    My granddad knew the day and the time he was going to die.................the judge told him!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    We all die alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    To live on as we have is to leave behind joy, and love, and companionship, because we know it to be transitory, of the moment. We know it will turn to ash. Only those whose lives are brief can imagine that love is eternal. You should embrace that remarkable illusion. It may be the greatest gift your race has ever received.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Man, I'm depressed. But the good kind of depressed that a sip of beer will find good company with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭dodgygeezer


    Give me a saddle embolus - instant death.

    I've seen all sorts on the wards...gently fading away to awful stertorous breathing. Didn't spend much time in A&E - I'm sure the means are varied (and upsetting) there.

    Please let me avoid dementia or motor neuron disease..,.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I have only ever seen one person passed on and sadly .... that was my mother :(

    Seeing someone deceased is an usual thing. I remember touching her face minutes after and the heat was leaving her body. A few minutes later it was cold. Then the last time I touched her it was beginning to get stiff. All in the space of minutes. It's surreal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Aphex


    Sorry for your loss dude :( I have yet to experience a close family member passing away and I am not looking forward to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Thanks for the kind words, Aphex :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Aphex


    Thanks for the kind words, Aphex :)

    No problem at all :) Keep the head up :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Caonima


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rushhour-horror-after-cyclist-falls-under-lorry-26566575.html

    I saw this when I was walking along the quays to work in Dublin :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I've been lucky so far never to see anyone die. I fear it, because i think i will have the reaction of a child to it, in that i'll be very frightened of it happening again. I remember a friend of mine telling me about the day a man just dropped dead in front of him on O'Connell Bridge. He was not shocked at all, he said matter of factly people die every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Plenty of sites online where you can watch people getting shot, stabbed, blown up etc, watch a few and get back to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Plenty of sites online where you can watch people getting shot, stabbed, blown up etc, watch a few and get back to us.

    I'll pass on that. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    kneemos wrote: »
    Only ever seen one person die and it wasn't a case of slipping away peacefully.
    Is it normally an easy process or more like a Saw movie.

    Ah god love ya, you've a lot to learn. It's always always always a painful tortuous event with lots of screaming and crying by all parties present and then all of a sudden it's all over. Very much like sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    CJC999 wrote: »
    Ah god love ya, you've a lot to learn. It's always always always a painful tortuous event with lots of screaming and crying by all parties present and then all of a sudden it's all over. Very much like sex.

    How's Spain Larry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    token101 wrote: »
    How's Spain Larry?

    Hee Hee!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,790 ✭✭✭jmreire


    First Death I remember was as a very young kid, and my Uncle died of TB, as many did at the time. He was "Waked" at home, and I still remember it vividly. Later on in Life, I was in a parked car ( it was parked in a layby) when a completely drunk driver hit in the rear and killed 2 people, there and then. I was very lucky to escape. It was to be the first of many such escapes, but would take a long time to list them one by one.Early morning in a town in Belarus, I was walking across a market square when an elderly Gentleman literally dropped dead right in front of me. After seeing that there was nothing I could do, I whispered an act of contrition in his ear, and left the market in a hurry,,,a foreigner standing beside a body would have led to some very serious question's by the authorities. But he died in a good way, very quick. Then on another occasion, a colleague and myself were trying to get two injured kids to a hospital. One had been hit in the head and the other in the stomach. It was a rough trip, but we got the two of them to the hospital still alive. The one who had been hit in the head died, but the other one survived. In another incident, one of our L/C's hit a mine. It happened way off the beaten track, but we managed to get the injured out of the car and back onto the main road on stretchers, but one of died on the road.
    Some were "Quick and easy" some were definitely not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    jmreire wrote: »
    First Death I remember was as a very young kid, and my Uncle died of TB, as many did at the time. He was "Waked" at home, and I still remember it vividly. Later on in Life, I was in a parked car ( it was parked in a layby) when a completely drunk driver hit in the rear and killed 2 people, there and then. I was very lucky to escape. It was to be the first of many such escapes, but would take a long time to list them one by one.Early morning in a town in Belarus, I was walking across a market square when an elderly Gentleman literally dropped dead right in front of me. After seeing that there was nothing I could do, I whispered an act of contrition in his ear, and left the market in a hurry,,,a foreigner standing beside a body would have led to some very serious question's by the authorities. But he died in a good way, very quick. Then on another occasion, a colleague and myself were trying to get two injured kids to a hospital. One had been hit in the head and the other in the stomach. It was a rough trip, but we got the two of them to the hospital still alive. The one who had been hit in the head died, but the other one survived. In another incident, one of our L/C's hit a mine. It happened way off the beaten track, but we managed to get the injured out of the car and back onto the main road on stretchers, but one of died on the road.
    Some were "Quick and easy" some were definitely not.

    Hmm. I think you need to speak to a professional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    Think the Epicurean approach to Big D works best, the only real one you'll experience is your own and if there's a God/Afterlife it's no big deal.


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