The E.U. Is really starting to ****ing annoy me

Ray Palmer

Grayson wrote: »

Considering in 20 years we'll have cars that drive themselves (And will stick to speed limits) there may be a day when we look back at a discussion like this about speed limits and laugh.

I remember this being promised 20 years ago:rolleyes:

Frank Lee Midere

Robbo wrote: »

*cough*
3 months imprisonment or a €4,000 fine on summary conviction, much worse upon indictment which is guaranteed to never happen to anyone apart from a commercial waste processor. Also, no District Justice in the land will impose the upper end of these penalties.
*cough*

Perhaps you'd like to try selling some straight bananas now?

Who asked us about this law, or asked anybody? Who knows about it? Where is the EU advertising it? What else should we do with the food waste.

keithclancy

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I would have been a proponent of the E.U. I think it has done a lot of good for Ireland but recently they are really starting to piss me off with their nanny state ways. Here is just a couple of things the E.U. Is currently trying to ruin.

Regulating/banning e-cigs which are considered to be harmless
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10178573/EU-vote-on-electronic-cigarettes-makes-no-sense.html

Speed limiters in all our cars.
http://news.sky.com/story/1135815/eu-may-order-speed-limiters-fitted-to-uk-cars

Would they ever **** off and leave us do what we want, an adult should be allowed to smoke an e-cig, a normal cig or a menthol cig, which the E.U. banned, they shoukd be allowed to drive whatever speed they want, an adult should be allowed to do what they want so long as it does not cause harm to anyone else.

Half the thread is based on a mistake:

http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/reports-of-brussels-big-brother-bid-to-impose-speed-controls-are-inaccurate-beyond-the-limit-2/

Story wasn't even correct

Fratton Fred

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Is this kind of nonsense actually believed. We bailed out the banks. They have our money. By bailing out the banks, which we didn't have to do, we got a loan - not a gift - from the Germans/EU at market rates, and much higher than we would have gotten were we not in the position we were in because we bailed out the banks. And by bailing out the Irish banks we kept the bank creditors in gravy. Germany banks amongst them.

Bailed out the banks that miraculously had their money disappear in a cloud of smoke, not lent to people speculating on the property market, buying second homes in Portugal and a brand new range rover sport.

Grayson

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I remember this being promised 20 years ago:rolleyes:

But they actually have cars that have clocked hundreds of thousands of miles at this point. back then you were lucky to get an analogue radio controlled car. The most high tech piece of equipment most people owned was a remote for the TV.

Robbo

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Who asked us about this law, or asked anybody? Who knows about it? Where is the EU advertising it? What else should we do with the food waste.

Your MEP would have voted on it at least once, perhaps you should ask them. The ordinary legislative procedure has been tweaked in recent Treaties with the aim of reducing the "democractic deficit" insofar as is practicable when you're talking about an organisation as big as the EU.

It is quite easy to feel a disconnect between the EU legislative process and the more personal relationship we've enjoyed with our councillors and TDs. Personally, I think a lot of the confusion and alienation is the result of selecting wretched and idiotic candidates to Brussels as a political consolation prize or electing Euroskeptic MEPs who genuinely have no clue (or inclination to get one) such as Dana.

As is the case with any new legislation, Iris Oifiguil is where you can find the official version. It's entirely up to the member states to publicise and promulagate these things so if you're unhappy with the level of communication, the relevant minister (Phil Hogan) should be contacted.

Regarding your food waste; put it in the brown bin if you have one. If you only have the one, the onus is on your bin company to do the dirty work so you have nothing to worry about.

And yes, at least half of the story is good old little Englander Eurobollocks. What's worse is that the dittoheads keep falling for it here.

martinedwards

Its easy to complain about the EU putting limiters in your car, but befpore they paid for all those lovely big roads, there was nowhere you coud get up to the limit anyway!

KyussBishop

It's a pity the EU never implemented regulations where it counts: Financial regulation.

Give the EU a central bank, but not a centralized set of financial regulations/regulators? Great idea.
Could have avoided a huge amount of damage from the current crisis - and they still haven't gotten it right, 5 years later.

Ray Palmer

Grayson wrote: »

But they actually have cars that have clocked hundreds of thousands of miles at this point. back then you were lucky to get an analogue radio controlled car. The most high tech piece of equipment most people owned was a remote for the TV.

In the 1990s? They have had fully working models since the 80s with many drive hours proving the concept. The biggest block will remain to be humans.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. A lot of infrastructure and law changes required