Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

listermint

Went to TTT Blackrock last week.

Based on my experience in it, I wish them well and hope that more open across the country.

Reputable Rog

More poorly researched articles from the paper of record, claiming that Kronenbourg is a Heineken brand when in fact it belongs to the Carlsberg group, hence the reason Diageo have the distribution rights here.

irish_goat

Reputable Rog wrote: »

More poorly researched articles from the paper of record, claiming that Kronenbourg is a Heineken brand when in fact it belongs to the Carlsberg group, hence the reason Diageo have the distribution rights here.

It's distributed by Heino in the UK.

Reputable Rog

irish_goat wrote: »

It's distributed by Heino in the UK.

No it's brewed and distributed by Carlsberg UK.
Carlsberg is one of the largest UK breweries.

Ravelleman

Reputable Rog wrote: »

No it's brewed and distributed by Carlsberg UK.
Carlsberg is one of the largest UK breweries.

My cursory glance has revealed that the Heineken UK website claims it as its own.

Marcusm

Reputable Rog wrote: »

No it's brewed and distributed by Carlsberg UK.
Carlsberg is one of the largest UK breweries.

Are you sure? I seem to recall that Kronenbourg was a Scott & Newky brand. s&N was bought jointly by Carlsberg and Keineken and while Kronenbourg was taken by Carlsberg in the split up, they had to grant a very long (50 year plus) brewing and distribution deal to Heineken in the UK to deal with competition issues.

irish_goat

Signs up for the January sale. Pints of guest ales going for £1.29.

Reputable Rog

Ravelleman wrote: »

My cursory glance has revealed that the Heineken UK website claims it as its own.

I was looking at the main carlsberg site and not the UK one. I see my error.

Reputable Rog

Weren't Wetherspoons initially serving Tetley's smoothflow here? Seems to have disappeared from the menu.

MonkstownHoop

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Weren't Wetherspoons initially serving Tetley's smoothflow here? Seems to have disappeared from the menu.

They were alright, first impression of the 40ft isn't going well, no cask among other beers missing, also my half poured craft stout was forgotten about for 10 minutes, they need at least 3 more people at the bar, but I'm sure they'll get there as they are still actively recruiting

MonkstownHoop

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Weren't Wetherspoons initially serving Tetley's smoothflow here? Seems to have disappeared from the menu.

They were alright, first impression of the 40ft isn't going well, no cask among other beers missing, also my half poured craft stout was forgotten about for 10 minutes, they need at least 3 more people at the bar, but I'm sure they'll get there as they are still actively recruiting

MonkstownHoop

The bottle range here seems to be better than TTT, Bru, O'Haras, Rogue among others, 2.95 for a bottle of Leann follain is prwpretty good.

out da lough

I dont care about brands in particular. Local pub chains here in Cork started brewing their own "back kitchen beer" and selling it for €5.35 a pint in order to try and "break the duopoly."

I'm really looking forward to watching Weatherspoons come in and wipe the floor with them and their "craft beers."

This isnt really about brands: UK multiple Tesco has learned to its cost that Irish consumers are price sensitive and will buy Rheinbacher German Pils in Aldi over Heineken Dutch Pils in Tesco if the price is cheaper.

This is more about Irish consumers getting sick and tired of local pub chains shafting them on price. Irish pub chains will have to compete with Weatherspoons or go out of business.

I'd expect a lot of consolidation over the next few years in the business.
From what I can see both Diageo and Heineken Ireland are more like bankers than brewers nowadays: most former "publicans" are now "owners" in name only, working as managers for the breweries who underwrite their loans at the banks and NAMA.

Lovely Bloke

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

They were alright, first impression of the 40ft isn't going well, no cask among other beers missing,

AGAIN?

Clowns tbh.

How the bleedin hell can a chain with so much experience get it so wrong, time and again, in the same location?

They were the same on the Saturday before Xmas.

What lies are they spouting this time, have you asked? We were told that Diageo and Heineken orders hadn't turned up. :pac::D

rubadub

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

godtabh wrote: »

Very inexperienced staff but I'm not going to complain. €2.50 a pint.

You just complained about the inexperienced staff.. Ironic much?

I didn't really take that comment to be a complaint. It'd be like if I said "I got no cutlery in mcdonalds but am not going to complain. €1 a burger."

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

"Wetherspoon's has no stout". They have two.

Yeah, double the amount of many pubs. They repeated this no stout thing a few times, I thought it might have just been semantics and them meaning "no guinness". They also have a bottled porter in both spoons here.

Heineken is not a premium beer quality wise, it is often priced that way but it is common to see it for €1 a can or bottle, or less. I presume when supermarkets have cheap heineken it is a low price from heineken which allows for this.

Speak Now

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

They were alright, first impression of the 40ft isn't going well, no cask among other beers missing, also my half poured craft stout was forgotten about for 10 minutes, they need at least 3 more people at the bar, but I'm sure they'll get there as they are still actively recruiting

What craft stout are they double pouring?

Lovely Bloke

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

What craft stout are they double pouring?

they are double pouring Revisionist and Dark Side, both served nitro.

MonkstownHoop

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

What craft stout are they double pouring?

Craft stout from marstons and bath ales dark side stout, just realised the O'Haras bottles are 330ml, I won't drink a 330ml stout in a pub when they sell pints

MonkstownHoop

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

AGAIN?

Clowns tbh.

How the bleedin hell can a chain with so much experience get it so wrong, time and again, in the same location?

They were the same on the Saturday before Xmas.

What lies are they spouting this time, have you asked? We were told that Diageo and Heineken orders hadn't turned up. :pac::D

I didn't bother asking, as I arrived the guy being served was told they had none

Lovely Bloke

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

I didn't bother asking, as I arrived the guy being served was told they had none

are you still there?

Complain to the manager, I did, and it's the only way they'll even contemplate getting better.

If no-one complains they'll think it's ok.

MonkstownHoop

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

are you still there?

Complain to the manager, I did, and it's the only way they'll even contemplate getting better.

If no-one complains they'll think it's ok.

I will :-)

rubadub

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

just realised the O'Haras bottles are 330ml, I won't drink a 330ml stout in a pub when they sell pints

Is this the Leann Follain? if so the price is still good, and as its 6% it would not bother me too much being smaller, I would not be knocking them back like the 4% pints..

If its €2.95 it works out at €4.47 for a 500ml bottle. Doubt anywhere would come close to that, its €3.19 in obriens offie.

TheEnthusiast

their beer menu looks great. I will actively avoid drinking somewhere that doesn't have craft beers. Cant wait for the Cork one to open.

Goose island IPA is one of obriens 'cream of the craft beer' selection (I wasnt able to find it in Cork recently - I was specifically looking for it), and 8 degrees make fantastic beer.

Heineken are going to be in trouble - as other posters have stated tastes are changing. Doesnt seem a clever move as in any case they will be unable to maintain their dominance over pricing etc. They should be doing everything they can to survive, not cutting themselves out of their channel.

n97 mini

rubadub wrote: »

Is this the Leann Follain?

Leann Follain is only about 12c more expensive wholesale, per bottle, than the regular stout. In my local that translates to 20c of a difference over the bar. Just because it's 6% doesn't mean it should be a mad price.

MonkstownHoop

rubadub wrote: »

Is this the Leann Follain? if so the price is still good, and as its 6% it would not bother me too much being smaller, I would not be knocking them back like the 4% pints..

If its €2.95 it works out at €4.47 for a 500ml bottle. Doubt anywhere would come close to that, its €3.19 in obriens offie.

It is, it's 2.45 a 330 bottle, still ill only drink a pint of stout and they have pints of stout

MonkstownHoop

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

are you still there?

Complain to the manager, I did, and it's the only way they'll even contemplate getting better.

If no-one complains they'll think it's ok.

Logistics apparently, my mate who works in a brewery in London was equally annoyed, we were assured logistical problems was the issue.

Heroditas

Well, I ended up in the TTT tonight for the first time to meet a mate back from the US for Christmas.
Impressions - good selection of beer and I liked the decor and feel of the place.
A few of the lads were amazed rounds were costing about €12 (there were 5 of us).
Food looked decent from what I saw was being brought to some of the tables.

Only thing was this - is it always overrun with teenagers getting ID'd both entering the premises and when they go to buy drinks? Bloody hell, I felt ancient. Has the traditional Wicked Wolf crowd moved to here?
Place was doing a roaring trade though. No free tables or seats. Meanwhile the bar across the road had about 20 people at most in it.

Sofiztikated

Had to correct a few people over the Christmas perios about 'Spoons.

The usual rumours : "Oh, they buy short dated stock, that's why it's cheap," and "They wouldn't sell beer at a proper price, so Diageo told them to do one."

Found out that my brother remembers the first 'Spoons opening up, back in the day, and had an interview for bar manager/landlord/gaffer when it was opening, but he chose a different bar over it as he wasn't convinced the business model could hold up.

Does anyone know if the 40FT or TTT operate the same door policy as the UK, no football colours/clothes?

Bigcheeze

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Does anyone know if the 40FT or TTT operate the same door policy as the UK, no football colours/clothes?

Probably just no Munster jerseys.

Ronan|Raven

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Does anyone know if the 40FT or TTT operate the same door policy as the UK, no football colours/clothes?

not that I am aware of, I had a longford town top on one day and nothing was said.. (most likely as they didn't know who they were.. )